September 2001: were YOU a "90% approval rate" person?

[maxsolomon]

after 9/11 & before we went into afganistan to let OBL slip away, bush was at 90% approval.

other than my bush-voting parents, i know no one who was in this group. i'm in a liberal bubble.

would anyone here like to fess up & enlighten me as to why you 'approved' of the monkey? my suspicion is that back then, approval of bush = approval of america kicking some al quaeda ass. more of a rah rah, go get em chimpy, you're all we've got.

on edit: if you're a 10%-er, do you KNOW any of the 90% who've changed their minds? what were they thinking?

[Tiggeroshii]

1. Nope.

I would tell my brother, "screw that Bush guy! What has he done besides take advantage of this politically? Fuck him!"

He'd respond with, "well, don't go outside and say that."

[AndyTiedye]

2. Nope. I Was Googling "Reichstag Fire"

[havocmom]

5. Me too

and waiting for broken glass every night since

[MADem]

31. The more things change, the more they remain the same....

[Raster]

112. Same here. 9/11 just confirmed my WORST fears as to what lengths

bushco* and their pnac cohorts would go to. I smelled treachery from the time I saw the jet hit the second tower. NOTHING has dissuaded me from my original belief.

[MADem]

3. Not only no, but HELL NO

And I felt damn lonely at times, to be honest.

Of course, I was living in a red state at the time, surrounded by people who had no idea how dreadfully this 'war on terra' effort would play out.

[Tiggeroshii]

8. Ya know. I think this forum is comprised of just that 10%

Maybe? :shrug:

[The Anti-Neo Con]

4. No way!

Never approved of him once ever in the past 5.5 years.

[maxsolomon]

6. then WHO WAS IT?

that's 9 out of 10 people.

[HornBuckler]

7. Me Neither...

I've had a huge dislike for him ever since he weaseled his way in, and 9-12-01 was no different.

[Robbien]

10. Many of the 9 out of 10 people are not posting on DU

Many DUers are here because they were desperately looking for the other ones out of ten.

[Tiggeroshii]

13. ..on the most anti bush website ever

I think this forum is comprised of THAT 10%

[teamster633]

24. Never.

And even then, no one who's opinion I respected had anything but disdain for him either. You do have to wonder exactly who was "polled" on his approval rating back when the cowardly Crawford colossus bestrode the "entire" world.

[Art_from_Ark]

149. Maybe, like everything else,

they were just making that figure up :shrug:

[peacebird]

9. no - I always assumed it was as fake as his election results

[left is right]

59. I didn't think fake from the very beginning, but

my first reaction was what did * do to provoke the attack. Now the only thing that keeps me out of the MIHOP/LIHOP camp is that he and his minions have proved themselves incompetent over and over again. I have a little trouble squaring the incompetence with the level of success of the attacks.

[Orsino]

121. Yeah. If they'd deliberately planned it...

...they would have made * look better. His little AWOL performance on 9/11 should have been a PR disaster; he was only saved by the MSM's 24/7 spinning.

[left is right]

124. I am always amazed at *'s display of family values on that day

there was never any mention of his insisting that he had to get back to the WH to be with Laura. He also didn't see any need to use AF1 to pick up the twins at their respective universities. My dad would have moved Heaven and Earth to make it home to be with my mother. and I understand that the adulteress Clinton was out of the country but took the next available flight had to land in Canada and rent a car to get home to his wife and kid.

by the way, if this is just urban legend--please don't set me straight--I like the story to much to let go of it.

[arcane1]

11. it certainly wasn't me!

though looking back, the things I hated about Bush back then seem so quaint now

[Wetzelbill]

22. no kidding

I used to not like the guy because he was ignorant and was blatantly bought and paid for. Who knew he was much worse a million times over?

[arcane1]

45. I thought I was "outraged" when he sealed Poppy's Iran/Contra papers

by comparison nowadays, I was merely "miffed" about that :evilfrown:

[Jed Dilligan]

58. Hmm, well, actually

when he said in the 2000 debates that he wanted the military to fight two wars at once, I pretty much saw all this coming, right down to the fake terrorist attack. But maybe I think too much.

[AndyA]

12. I never approved of George Bush. In fact,

I remember an interview on The Today Show with Bush on his bus, going around the country campaigning. I think Matt Lauer did the interview. At the time, I thought to myself, "This man is a huge idiot! How in the hell did he ever become the Governor of Texas?"

He couldn't answer the questions, didn't know facts he should have, and just generally was embarrassing to watch...well, basically the same as what we have today.

I was never a member of the "90% Approval Club."

[maxsolomon]

17. SOMEBODY was!

right? it couldn't have been FAKE, could it?

[AndyA]

25. Given what we know today, I would not be surprised to hear it

was all fake. After all, Gore did win the popular election and the Presidency a few months earlier, before the Supreme Court started dictating who our next President would be.

[frylock]

14. proud ten-percenter here

[LaPera]

15. No...I saw the bullshit immediately and knew Bush...

was going to now get everything the fascist wanted...I NEVER believed that 90% anyway, I saw how many were marching with me in the very first "No Invasion of Iraq" protests all across the country...

I also know republican ideology and Bush is a republican...Republican ideology doesn't change from republican to republican or event to disaster...Republican ideology is to have big government & military, tax cuts for the rich, corporations unregulated and allowed collusion and to get rid of Social Security, unemployment insurance, unions and all social programs...and privatize for more corporate wealth!!!

[Wetzelbill]

16. not me, I wished the guy well, hoped he'd do the right thing

and all in our time of need, but I never thought he ever did a particularly good job of anything. In fact, if anything I never thought he had it in him to succeed in the "war on terror" or any other issue related to 9/11, I just hoped he wouldn't screw things up too badly. Well, we know how that turned out. :)

[rfranklin]

18. No way, Ho-say!

This one smelled from the very beginning. It felt very lonely for a while. And then I found DU.

[displacedtexan]

19. No. The coward ran away and hid in a bunker.

That 90% approval was crap on a stick.

[gaspee]

20. Never!

Not once, not even for a minute. And I have the journal entries and the alienated friends to prove it. I felt like I was being attacked from everyone I talked to about it back then and I stopped talking about it. I felt I was in a bad movie or something. I couldn't believe that people I thought I knew and respected-- *rational people* lost their shit on that day. Crazy Annie wasn't the only one in this country wanting blood and genocide in revenge. Most people came out of that stage pretty quickly, but too many people still wanted blood, so they were all behind the Iraq war. I hope all those fuckers are happy now.

I still feel like I'm living in a nightmare that started in November '00

[NNN0LHI]

Not even close

I was against invading Afghanistan when even Bartcop was saying we needed to glass the place. My posts here back then will reflect that.

Don

[Maestro]

21. Never.

I already despised this administration before 9-11.

[zalinda]

23. Never, I knew he was bad news before he was selected. n/t

[warrens]

26. I was in the "kick the Taliban's butt" camp

But the only way I would ever approve of Bush is if he resigned and took all his thugs with him.

[ComerPerro]

127. Nothing wrong with hating the Taliban. It makes you a liberal

or at least a secular progressive.


I find it odd that so many conservative theocrats despised the Taliban so much.


If they were Christian and still practiced the same opressive laws, conservatives here would love them

[rocktivity]

27. Even back then, I didn't take anything Bush said at face value

and frankly, while 9/11 saddened me, I was not shocked. It's been downhill ever since.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Ron Green]

28. They're not on this board, but they're at the shopping mall.

All over America, the people on Bush's bandwagon drove around with flags waving from their SUV's and pickup trucks. They're still around, but the flags are gone and only about a third of them are still with the program. The other two thirds have just eased back down into American Idle.

[Minnesota Libra]

29. I didn't believe even one word the WH Idiot said as far back.............

....as when he was running and also when he was appointed to the WH. So On September 11, 2001 I stated questioning everything from moment one. No this effing lying pile of crap never fooled me for a second.

edited for spelling

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

30. Nope. I never have approved of flag waving cheerleaders.

Or, adolescent politicians who are willing to have people killed so they can appear "tough" on the selected enemy of the day.

[Bitter Cup]

32. I am a 10 percenter too and I lost 2 friends over it

So I do know some people lost all ability to question or reason for a while after 9/11...but I can't and won't believe it was 90% of the population. Most of those I knew felt the same way about Bush before and after. A large part did seem to buy into the Iraq = Evil Death Star Level Threat crap after but even then as many seemed to have reservations as not.

I was up and watching the news that morning. Then I sat at work where we had a TV and we all watched it. We had nowhere near a 90% agreement on anything that was going on...but half of us knew something was fishy.

I remember turning to my spouse and saying "no matter where this came from I know it's going to go bad for us with Bush". The 2000 election had me totally on edge and I thought then that if the bastard would screw our democracy for a win, he'd screw us double for more power and money in the wake of an attack or crisis.

I remember thinking Unical had more to do with us invading Afghanistan than did the taliban. And While I thought Guliani did a good job of leading his city in aftermath I felt like Bush was puzzlingly absent and then pretty much a blatant opportunist. I honestly remember cringing at all of Bush's speeches calling people out and talking tough because it seemed clear to me that it was going to end up with us jumping at shadows and hurting people without knowing why or how.

I don't believe Bush ever had 90% approval. I do believe that 50% of the liberal community lost their mind for a while due to grief and fear and uncertainty. But that's not approval. That is panic. The need to hurt SOMONE because you have been hurt was what was responded to there...not approval. Not leadership. Just blind lashing out. But you don't need to really have 90%...you just have to get 51% and then loudly yell that you have 90% and enough people will cower that you'll get away with whatever you are pulling.

But you'll never see it reported that way on the news.

[Benhurst]

33. No way. I never doubted it was either total (criminal) incompetence

or treason from the first.

[endarkenment]

34. Don't know anyone who has changed their minds.

The 90% remains a mystery.

[SteppingRazor]

35. They called me "Taliban Dan"...

Some of the more-conservative people I knew gave me that moniker because I continued to loathe Bush right after 9/11. Suffice to say, I stopped talking to them.

[eleny]

36. no

[RufusEarl]

37. On the record,

I never approved of the bu$h.

[myrna minx]

38. Nope. I'm a proud 10 percenter.

I was even in the Grassy Knoll Society.

[Marr]

39. I was.

I consider myself a liberal Democrat, and always have. But I admit to having been extremely naive up to just a few years ago. During the 2001 election theft, I told myself it was just too close, nothing really to worry about, Bush would be an instant lame duck if he got in anyway, etc. Yeah- I know. I was living in fantasy land.

In the days following 9-11, I would've probably said I supported GW Bush if I'd been asked. I honestly gave the guy the benefit of the doubt- AGAIN. I hoped he'd do the right thing, but he almost immediately set about doing all the WRONG things. It probably took about a month or two for the truth of the situation to start seeping in, as I finally started reading more about the policy statements of the men in Bush's administration.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

49. me too

I'm so glad I woke up fast.

:hug:

[Marr]

108. You ever feel like you took the blue pill, too?

I remember having conversations with some people at the time who were well ahead of me on distrusting this government. I can vaguely recall how easy it was to just shrug off some vital rhetorical contradiction with a simple platitude. It was so easy. The world was so simple, if I could just accept a few contradictory "truths". Didn't last long, thankfully- but there you go.

I still think of that when I see some dumbass on Fox News spouting a list of talking points. They're stuck in that area where facts just don't matter.

[maxsolomon]

64. thanks for the honesty

i hoped for the best after 9-11, but never 'supported' the idiot beyond hoping he'd do the right thing, which he immediately proved he was incapable of - the hiding on AF1, bullhorning on the rubble, the absurd run up to iraq when no one had the sack to say the emporer had no clothes.

a retarded monkey could have invaded afganistan & unseated the taliban with the US military. it wasn't very impressive.

[Marr]

109. Yep- I can't say I ever thought the guy was a hero or something,

but I did believe he was at least on my "team". Americans, I mean. He clearly isn't, in fact. It's all for the wealthy, and borders don't matter. He'd have that infamous beer with a rich Chinese sweatshop owner or Saudi oil baron long before he'd have one with some middle class American schmoe.

[helderheid]

117. you just described me

[Blue_In_AK]

40. No, never...

I thought there was something suspicious about the whole thing from the beginning. I have hated GWB from Day One.

[shadowknows69]

41. I felt we were finally reaping what we've sown as a country.

n/t

[WI_DEM]

42. Never, I was a proud member of the ten percent club

but I think that the 90% was not realistic either.

[underpants]

43. I was a 100%" WTF just happened?" person

It didn't take me very long to realize that W had just completely dropped the ball. Nothing that I have seen since has done anything but further cement my first reaction.

[Malikshah]

44. Nope--never was never will be. All I knew was that the * was going

to benefit from this tragedy because folks can be complete lemmings.

[pitohui]

46. no i wasn't and i can't think of anyone who was

i know of no one who was anti-bush on sept 10 who magically became in favor of the guy who lost the wtc and part of the pentagon on sept 11, that don't even make any sense, you hate a guy for being a screw-up and he screws up even worse and lets thousands of people get killed -- and suddenly you approve of the dude? er, no, don't think so

i suspect the media and polls just lied abt it, as they will do for propaganda purposes

i don't believe there was ever a day when 90 percent of the country approved of *'s job

now there may have been a day when people polled were in fear of being rounded up and disappeared if they said anything critical, THAT i would believe

[Upfront]

47. Hell No!

I knew they were lying bastards!

[sallyseven]

48. Felt he was a loser on 9/10 and the same way after 9/11.

I just hated him more.

[conflictgirl]

50. I was a ten-percenter, but I know others who have changed their minds

In my family, pretty much everyone is liberal. But almost everyone in my husband's family voted for Bush. They are not anti-Republican yet but they are definitely anti-Bush.

Unfortunately what it comes down to for most people I know who now regret having voted for Bush is the deficit. They don't really care about Iraq, civil liberties, increase in number of people in poverty and without health insurance, etc - what they DO care about is the deficit. Go figure. My mother-in-law actually said "Bush spends like a liberal." :eyes:

[Cha]

66. "Spends like a Liberal" AND

LIES like a republiCON.

[MANative]

51. Hell no

I despised him from the very first time I saw his face and heard his voice. It was eminently clear to me that this man had no soul, no heart and no brain. Wondered back then who the "wizard" was - didn't take too long to figure that one out. Personally experiencing the horrors of that day from my mid-town Manhattan office did nothing to change my mind - if anything, that was the day that unbridled loathing began.

:evilfrown:

[ima_sinnic]

52. absolutely not--never in 1000 years--have hated him forever

--and my 1st thought on hearing that a 2nd plane had hit was that, somehow, that ineffectual arrogant little slimeball who was appointed to be "president" had something to do with it.

[dysfunctional press]

53. 9/11 was a CRIME...NOT an act of war.

i've NEVER supported this charlatan.

[lpbk2713]

54. Not me. Not a chance in Hell.

I was pissed beyond words right after the towers went down because our "leader" disappeared with not even as much as a recorded message until the next day. The yellow son of a bitch hauled ass like a scared bunny rabbit. Then when it looked like it was safe and secure the little weasel asshole was out there with his arm around the firemen's shoulders wherever cameras happened to be.

He wasn't any different in NOLA and the Gulf Coast days later after Katrina hit. Wherever the cameras were, there was Dumbya. And usually it was staged.

[rock]

55. No n/t

[Johonny]

56. half of my family

prior to 2004 my om side of the family were very pro-Bush. Couldn't believe I was against the man. This Christmas when I saw them they were clearly non-Bush people. The belong now to the Bush is bad but there's no other choice, all politicians are the same camp. Meaning they'll vote for the next rethug that comes down the pipe promising them no gays, no war and big tax cuts.

[Jed Dilligan]

57. Hell

I would give up my belief if I found out 90% of Americans agreed with it!

[jobycom]

60. I spent all day cursing Bush and waiting for the impeachment proceedings

I literally believed the Republicans would dry up and blow away overnight. They had fought every attempt of CLinton and the Democrats during the 90s to strengthen security against terrorism, and had said repeatedly that UBL was no threat, that Clinton was just wagging the dog. I literally believed everyone would remember, and Bush would be gone by the 15th.

Silly me. I overestimated people, didn't I?

[keopeli]

61. No, and all of my friends will verify this for you. They were all 90s.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

62. Yes, but...

I wasn't politically aware at the time. It was my senior year of college, and all I cared about was getting high with my friends -- well, some things never change.

But I eventually immersed myself in politics, particularly during the runup to the Iraq war. I've had a burning hatred for Chimpy ever since.

Ironically, I met him once when he was running for governor because he stopped by my high school. I still have that jackass' autograph somewhere.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

63. Yup. I Was. Albeit Temporarily.

I hated him with all my might the day before, but after that morning politics meant jack shit to me. But as different things started to unfold and I became aware to the agenda it became clear to me he was every single bit as much a POS as I thought him to be prior and then some.

[BurtWorm]

78. I'm asking just to understand...

Did you actually "approve" of the job Bush was doing?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

100. Actually, Come To Think Of It,

I guess you're right. No. I didn't approve of him. When I think of it in those terms, I never was at a point where I considered him to be competent or praiseworthy. I guess how I really felt, or what I really meant, was that after that morning I was no longer concerned with finding everything I could that proved he was a moron. The day before I remember feeling really good inside. There was a lot of stuff making its way to the forefront showing how right we were for not supporting him to be president to begin with. I would search for every bit of evidence and story I could find that tore him apart and proved he was every bit as incompetent as I said previously he had been.

But after 9/11, shortterm, I no longer had the motivated interest to find every flaw and speak every criticism I could about him. I simply discarded political passion altogether for a bit, while being numb for weeks over what occurred. I cried for months each and every time I saw an airplane in the sky. Every single time.

But after some time passed I was able to once again regain my political passion and began enjoying once again educating myself on how incompetent, moronic and bad intentioned he was. So no, I never would've said I approved of him, I merely would've said "I really don't give a shit right now". So I guess that wouldn't put me in the 90% after all. It would've put me in the percent that chose not to respond.

[BurtWorm]

150. It's very clear that a lot of Bush's "support" was just like yours.

Not support at all. Just apathy about how well he was doing.

[Cha]

65. Hell no..I thought chimp and his monkey

gang were ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL!

Nobody likes a snoozer on the job.

[pointblank]

67. 9/11 opened my eyes

to the world of politics, and I am not ashamed to admit that before I "woke up", immediately following that day for abnout the first year I didn't really hate Bush, nor like him...I just wanted some sort of retribution and if he was gonna get it for us, then so be it. Hell I even watched Faux news for most of my post 9/11 coverage...in fact I was glued to it for a few months after. I didn't know what their politics were, nor did I care at that time and it was DEFINITIELY the most sensationalized coverage around and I fell for it hook line and sinker... unfortunately.

Man, when I think about how much I have changed in the past five years it blows my mind.

[City Lights]

68. I'm a proud 10%er.

I only know of a couple people who have changed their mind, and they are friends of my father's. I can't say for sure, but I think it has to do with the chimp's stance on stem cell research since their DIL has a rare form of leukemia. I'll take any convert we get, but it's so typical of repukes to only see the light when an issue directly impacts them in some way.

[progressivejazz]

69. Nope. My first words after the second plane hit were...

"THAT M**HER F**KER DID IT! THAT F**KING BAS**RD DID IT! THAT PR**K. OH, THAT MISERABLE SON OF A BITCH!"

My son, who was on the other end of the phone replied "Uh, this is a little too much for me right now, dad. Could you wait for a little while?" I'm proud to say he never was a 90 percenter either and now agrees with my first words.

[Rex]

70. Of course not.

How can I approve of someone I think had a hand in 911?

[Jigarotta]

71. never approved bush nor afgan home invasion...

too suspect from the get go. too fast, too easy.
same story as Iraq, 'yes, we have evidence, but no one can see it, trust us ' They got away with that one because of the sympathy for 911. Liars, always.

[AuntPatsy]

72. All fabricated, there is No way there are that many stupid people in this

country.

[AzDar]

73. Never. n/t

[TheWatcher]

74. I was never even a 1% Approval Person

And I have never believed the Official Story of 9/11.

After the first 24 hours of shock wore off, I knew something was wrong.

And for the past five years, I have gone from LIHOP to MIHOP.

These are the most evil, corrupt, criminal people that have ever had control of our government.

They must be stopped.

And we are running out of time to do so.

If the past five years could be made into a movie, it's Title would be:

"I Know What You Did On September 11th"

[Kerry fan]

75. NOPE!!!

[iconoclastNYC]

76. Hell no.

[lectrobyte]

77. Yes. After the death and destruction, lots of anger and stop-this-

from-happening-again feelings. The feeling that we were all Americans first, then Democrats and Republicans second. That all didn't last very long.

[Stinky The Clown]

79. I suppose its the flocking gene .....

.... I tend to flock with 'my own'. I'm a ten percenter and know only other ten percenters, personally. I *encountered* ninety percenters, but I don't really know any; at least none who admitted it.

[loudestchick]

80. Not for one damn second!

[helderheid]

81. I admit it - my family and I all thought he was doing a good job

uniting the country. I wasn't registered to vote but pretty much considered myself a liberal dem or green but wasn't active politically and didn't know my TV was lying to me. I can't remember what woke me up but it didn't take too long for my family and I to all realize this guy was a mad man surrounded by mad men in the driver's seat. I then registered to vote and volunteered for the Kucinich campaign.

[Greyhound]

82. Never! The first time I saw this asshole I hated him on sight. I've spent

too many years living and working with his ilk to be taken in by the obvious "just a regular guy" facade. Then in the 2K primaries what they did to McCain was inexcusable (although it was later topped by McCain himself by sucking up to this little creep afterward).

I also began to investigate (unlike our "journalists") what the shit-heel did while Gov of TX and not surprisingly found that he was a disaster there before his coup. The biggest shock came in the form of the Democrats utter lack of intestinal fortitude during the run up and subsequent campaign. After all, I'm just this guy, you know, and I was able to dig up all kinds of ammunition that could have been used very effectively (I believe) to eliminate this prank candidacy. Imagine my surprise when the Gore campaign didn't ever mention one of his dramatic failures.

Another oddity, I don't know anybody that voted for him, that isn't a die-hard kool-aid drinker that still wants him in.

[coalition_unwilling]

83. I was never in the 90% camp, but I was willing to listen to BFEE

until Colin Powell promised to release a dossier detailing Taliban's and Osama's guilt and somehow never got around to it. Right about that time, a friend introduced me to antiwar.com and I've been protesting ever since.

[Initech]

84. FUCK NO!!!

I refused to join what I now refer to as the Bush bandwagoners.

[geniph]

85. No. I felt then, and still feel,

that even if they were warned in advance of the possibility of an attack, they'd have let it happen to give them an excuse for a Wag The Dog war.

I'm not saying I necessarily believe in LIHOP, but I am saying I don't find it completely inconceivable that this pack of gorram reavers would do that.

[KyuzoGator]

86. I am, and I supported the Iraq war initially.

Shoot me for being honest.

[BurtWorm]

88. I applaud you for being honest.

I'm very interested in what makes people change their minds. Did you favor Bush before 9/11? What made you change your mind against him since? If you don't mind my asking...

[KyuzoGator]

90. I was always against Bush being president. Thought he was a moron.

After 9/11, I was pissed off and felt that we needed to unite behind Bush to get the people responsible. I had some serious worries about his ability to lead us in war, but he was who we had. Couple that with the fact that the Taliban had disgusted me for years (the destruction of the Buddha statues did it), and I felt that it was time to "roll."

When the run-up to Iraq happened, I watched intently and wondered why we were diverting focus from bin Laden and Afghanistan. I gave them the benefit of the doubt on the WMD and al-Qaeda claims, but said all along that if they turned out to be false that Bush would eternally be on my shit list.

They were and he is. I won't be fooled again by any president, Republican or Democrat. If you're going to send us to war, you'd better have a fucking concrete reason to do so.

[KyuzoGator]

91. Also, I felt for years leading up to it that a 9/11 would happen.

The Tom Clancy books laid out way too many doomsday scenarios for me to believe that it would never happen. I thought for a long time that we should have transitioned our military away from a Cold War force to a specialized counter-terror system.

[BurtWorm]

98. Apparently most of the 90% are a lot like you.

:toast:

[RagAss]

87. I missed Bubba that day.....

[blm]

89. I followed terror issues closely since 1996 - I BLAMED BUSH LOUDLY on 9-11

and have never backed down.

[TheFarseer]

92. Yes, I don't need to lie to anyone

I thought bush was doing a good job in Afghanistan and damnit he was (before he screwed up and let Osama get away), I don't care what any of you say. I still was not happy about tax cuts for the rich, but you take the good with the bad and it was a whole different atmosphere back then. I really turned on him when it become clear (about late 2002) that he was really going to invade Iraq no matter how little sense it made, and it never made one damn bit of sense to me. I am proud to say I opposed that the whole way. At least I never voted for that poop stain.

[Marie26]

93. Never ever. nt

[renate]

94. hella no

But I do know somebody who voted for Gore, and who is now and was in November 2000 very anti-Bush, but in September 2001 she said she was glad Gore wasn't president on September 11. She was the only one in our group of six who felt that way, and the rest of us kind of went "huh?," but we knew she'd come back around eventually. She did, and it didn't take long, either.

[oasis]

95. Hell no. My first thought was "NSA incompetant Condi blew it". She

was an unqualified Bush crony appointment.

[KyuzoGator]

97. They had spent 8 months talking about a missile shield.

Indeed.

[oasis]

106. "traditional hijackings" were the kind that Condi could tolerate. They

would only involve risking 200 or 300 lives.

[Reverend_Smitty]

96. No

my stomach turned when he said "bring it on". I was disgusted with the 2000 election and that statement cemented the utter dislike I had for him...so yeah I was a 10-percenter, except I thought I was all alone. Everyone told me to give the President the benefit of the doubt but I saw through his crap even then, I wish I knew DU existed back then because this place really would have helped me out

[sakabatou]

99. Wasn't interested in politics untill 2004

[UTUSN]

101. Nope n/t

[LibDemAlways]

102. absolutely not. I figured right away that he

was somehow responsible either directly or indirectly. Despised him before, on , and after 9/11.

[Phoonzang]

103. The last thing I was thinking about was that idiot.

n/t

[SoCalDem]

104. Poll numbers can lie.. and often DO..

The media knew they had to prop this idiot up, and they did what it took to do it.. Most people were back to "regular programming" shortly after 9-11, and for most people the airport searches were the only reminder that anything had really changed..

Probably a lot of non-committal people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I never believed the 90% crap.. I would hate to think that 90% of the people in the Us were that "swoony" over a staged photo-op...four days after the fact..

Had he rushed back immediately and gone to ground zero on DAY ONE..and spoken from his "heart"..(not from a well-studied script"...well..I might have cut him some slack..

[RamboLiberal]

105. Nope - How coud I after watching deer in the headlight

in that school and then his Bunnypants act around the country.

I'll confess my heart wanted to support him that day - but my head knew we still had an empty suit in the WH. Made me even angrier that election was stolen and deprived the US of a competent president that day. Wonder why it took for 50-60% of country to finally figure it out that he is incompetent.

[titoresque]

107. Nope

I remember saying "OMG, they did this" (meaning MIHOP) as I watched the Towers come down.

[Arugula Latte]

110. Nope. Proud Ten Percenter here.

I posted comments on blogs in the Fall of '01 about how Bush was dangerous and boy did I hear it from the Bushbots. But, of course, I was right. They were wrong. Time has proven me 100% correct.

[Ladyhawk]

111. I really didn't understand what was happening.

I (reluctantly) voted for * in 2000. 9-11 didn't do a thing to improve my opinion of him. I was apolitical in September, 2001, but the event itself awakened something within me. My agnosticism hardened into atheism. During the leadup to war with Iraq, I really started questioning the * admin.

[Bluebear]

140. "We are all Americans today."

So said the "evil French". So said I.

I was disgusted with Florida 2000 and the Supreme's selection of Chimpolini. But after 9/11 I was willing to unite as a country. You know, against "those folks who did this".

Then Chimpolini proceeded to flush our goodwill down the toilet and it was business as usual.

[Stu DeBeouf]

113. No

I knew it had to be BFEE complicity or incompitance.

[Simeon Salus]

114. On 9/11, I stood behind America and the office of POTUS...

...and was stunned and dismayed at how incompetent the occupant's performance was that day and in the days immediately following. But I can see how the poll came back as 90% at that time. At the moment, it was a referendum on personal patriotism.

A villain was proclaimed within hours, immediately the cry became "On to Afghanistan" and I could see that our people's grief was being used against their interests. Once the pathetic PATRIOT act was jammed through Congress, I thought the Repukes might use the opportunity to pass "APPLE PIE" and "I LOVE MOM" acts as well.

Speaking as someone who watched both WTC towers fall with my own eyes, not on TV, I was glad NYC's fascist mayor (a man I bitterly opposed) could marshal immediate loyalty and cooperation from a population which needed and demanded an almost paternal leadership. As a result, the public acted very calmly and public sector employees kept the entire transit system operating as smoothly as was possible under the circumstances. There was little panic after we realized that the worst was over. Mostly, everybody looked for ways to help out.

But to this day, I still find amazing coincidences in FBI's terrorism expert John O'Neill's unlikely death, the apparent demolition of 7 World Trade Center (housing the city's crisis command complex), the mayoral primary canceled that tragic morning (which would have likely left a confident winner Mark Green facing Bloomguy in the general), and the ENORMOUS financial benefits immediately bestowed (and continue to be bestowed) on Larry Silverstein. Least expensive asbestos cleanup of a major structure EVER!

So very quickly I stopped supporting the office of POTUS, because not only had the worst terrorist attack in US History happened on the idiot's watch, but it was obvious that the GOPs were extremely well prepared to utilize the tragedy for partisan purposes.

[peacebaby3]

115. Nope. I hated Bush* before it was cool! n/t

[cureautismnow]

116. No Way. Never.

That illegitimate fraud has always had a 0% approval rating in my household.

[qanda]

118. I was a 10% then and I don't know of anyone who was in the 90%

Of course, I'm black and most black people never have approved of Bush and we're not known to support someone just because of emotions.

[Swamp Rat]

119. Nope... the first word out of my mouth on 9/11 was: "Reichstag!"

A lot of people were angry at me, for months, but I didn't give a fuck. The truth sometimes hurts a lot.

[Orsino]

120. Not here.

9/11 made * look like an even weaker version of the belligerent, spoiled man-child he already seemed.

on edit: I'd hoped he'd find some intestinal fortitude, or set aside his pillaging of the Treasury, but no move he's ever made has interfered with his true agenda.

[tallahasseedem]

122. Nope.

Even when he was standing on the pile of rubble I thought he was an asshole.

[Posteritatis]

123. I was tottering around the edge of it

And mainly for the reason you suggest - the idea that the response against the Taliban was a legitimate and right, a case of bellum justum et pium. (I still think that it was, and to a minimum extent is, though the implementation naturally wound up seven different kinds of fucked up. Right now I wouldn't mind if the US pulled out of Afghanistan and let the rest of the coalition countries in there do their damn jobs of rebuilding the place.)

The actual, fundamental reason I got off the fence and started staying way the hell away from Bush was based on how folks responded (not specifically, but in general) to those attacks. On September 12 or 13 or whatever, 2001, you had to search long and hard to find a single nation on the planet that wasn't ready to back the United States in any appropriate response it decided on. You'd have to look a bit to find many that weren't ready to back it on any inappropriate responses, for that matter. For awhile, the US, Europe, Russia, China, and large swathes of the Middle East were on the exact same page, and that page said "people were horribly, horribly wronged, and we think Something Should Be Done About It." It's impossible to overstate the kind of potential, the kind of power, that kind of mindset can have if you just channel it towards something good.

Bush had that. He had a potential that, very possibly, no other human being in the history of life on this planet had. I can't imagine what I or anybody else would be able to accomplish if we'd wanted to turn that towards something beneficial in the long term. He alternately squandered it with incompetence, or actively discarded it so he could play the big man to the home crowd.

That, I cannot forgive.

[Yollam]

125. No. I gave grudging support in hopes to get OBL...

I supported the president and initially the Afghan war, but never approved of the job POS Bush was doing. He did a consistently horrible job before, during, and after 9-11. I think most people were just so traumatized and desperate for a "leader" after 9-11 that they would have claimed to approve of anyone who promised to get back at the filth who knocked down the WTC. If only more Americans had know that that Saudi filth was financed by POS Bush's good friends...

[ComerPerro]

126. Lord no. (and, BTW, I salute those who can admit if they were)

[wherewingstakedream]

128. Hell No!

I have always known that this guy is a total nincompoop psychopathic asshole. He has never had it in him to do the right thing for the country ,ever. In fact, you can count on this twit to do everything he can to destroy the country with every decision he makes.

[wherewingstakedream]

129. Kick

And Hell No again! :bounce:

[Hissyspit]

130. Absolutely not. n/t

[tandem5]

131. I supported bush...

when he choked on a pretzel. It was a command decision and I supported it! Still do!

[Arugula Latte]

132. I supported the pretzel!

:patriot:

[tandem5]

138. Yes, a true American hero nt

[memory]

133. The sight or sound of the man has ALWAYS made me nauseous!

:puke:

My husband feels the same, but unfortunately, the rest of his family all love the chimp.

[FairVotes4all]

134. I feel so dirty now...

I.... I.... was in the 90% camp at the time... Man do I feel stupid

[RoyGBiv]

135. Hell, no ...

And I know a lot of people who were probably among the so-called 90% because they were quite frankly not thinking about anything but the fact their entire world had just turned upside down. All any President needed to do to get a vote of approval was not wet himself on national television.

Bush barely made that cut ... as far as we know.

[Canuckistanian]

136. Not that I qualify

But, NO. I saw through them from Nov. 2000. And Jan. 2001 sealed it. Not just the SC fiasco, but the "WH vandalization" lie.

Come 9/11, The very first thought I had was "The right wingers are going to go absolutely nuts over this"

And not in an ordinary, normally outraged way, but a full-on, mentally unbalanced "strike-out-at-all-people-who-disagree-with-me" kind of way.

I knew this storm was coming, but I had no idea it would be milked for years to come.

[6000eliot]

137. I always thought he was just this side of mentally retarded

An empty suit propped up by a bunch of evil fucks. I think you're asking the wrong crowd here, though.

[FrenchieCat]

139. Hell Naw......

[davidlynch]

141. No--Not Support of Bush--Patriotism, Yes

[SeattleGirl]

142. Not only no, but HELL NO!

I hated Chimpy McCokespoon when he was running for Prez; 9/11 didn't change my POV of him in the least.

I am a proud, carrying member of the 10% Club!

[Libby2]

143. No, never.

[degreesofgray]

144. Nope

I've been thoroughly unimpressed with and disgusted by the incompetent doofus from day one (and especially since the theft of 2000), just as I've been opposed to the folly in Iraq from day one.

[MrScorpio]

145. I was a 10 percenter on day #1

I'm a 68 percenter today.

Welcome to the party

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

146. Nope and neither was anyone around me.

Granted I was in art school at the time, but still. I remember watching the towers come down on the TVs that were set up in the theatre and a bunch of us sitting there saying, "shit, he just started his war." I then spent the rest of the day laying in a field with my friends, smoking insane amounts of weed. All of us were crying and watching military jets flying around.

I know two people that died that day.

[Vidar]

147. I was MIHOP by Sept 12

[Ani Yun Wiya]

148. Lifetime 10%-er

I have spent a large portion of my life working at night.
Graveyard shifts in many different workforms.
My own business demands a "graveyard shift" style as well.

So it is that even when umemployed I tend to do things at night,
and retiring shortly before daybreak is my norm.

On the evening of September 10, 2001 I was still working on a project
(resulting from a discussion here on DU) that I had started 12/12/00.

To make a long story short: In December 2000 I began to collect the data
regarding the 2000 election from each and every county in Florida.
And as the months rolled by each county sent me their precinct level data.

That morning I went to sleep at 6:30 am PST, unaware of events on the East Coast.

But that morning I also went to sleep completely and thoroughly certain that
fraud had transpired in the State of Florida, and that proof of same was in hand.
See:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=49624&mesg_id=49624&page=#51782

When my wife awoke me 45 minutes later, I began that day awake, aware and observent.

The very first reports seemed rather scripted to me. And then the anomalies started to pile
up.

Within less than three hours the whole affair began to take on the look and feel of other
days in recent US history, like 12/12/00 and 11/22/63.

So I guess it could be said that even before I was actually aware of "9/11" I was completely
against anything that this current crew of criminals in charge would do or try to do.


My basic feeling on war is simple: IT IS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.

So I could say that I start and finish in that 10% any time the bullshit of war is intended.

[bertha katzenengel]

151. Are you kidding? HELL no.

This was strictly a bitter knee-jerk reaction, I confess, but I blamed the attacks on Bush. At the time I didn't know why. Of course, later the August 6 memo, and the dire warnings from the Clinton administration during the transition, showed that at least in part Bush WAS directly responsible.

Evil motherfuckin' sonofabitch. May he rot in hell.

[bleedingheart]

152. no because the bastard went about the whole thing wrong

[Hosnon]

153. Yes. I take it as a lesson learned about always making sure reason is

at least reviewing emotions.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

154. No. He gave me the frigging creeps. nt

[SammyWinstonJack]

155. Definitely NOT! And I don't know anyone personally who was, thankfully.

[Zynx]

156. Never.

I'm a hard core 10%er.

[Kashka-Kat]

157. Maybe for a day or 2! I wanted SO badly to believe that we as a people

could rise to the occasion and act in a good morally sound way in our country's defense. I wanted so badly to believe that politics could be set aside for once to deal with this trauma we all held in common. Bush's speeches at the time if you recall placed great emphasis on how this would NOT be an attack on Islam, that it had to do only w/ getting the perpetrators who were responsible.

Boy he sure doesn't say THAT anymore!

Anyway, that hope was short lived. The logic of getting the taliban out made some sense to me... but then you really began to see how heavy handed the propaganda and media manipulations were... that made me really uneasy and set off my BS detector. By the time Iraq came around I was completely disbelieving of anything the man said.

[goddess40]

158. not me or the two other adults that live in my house

I have a religiously whacked sister who always votes against her best interest and her children's future but I have two brothers that are on my side of the fence.

[mwb970]

160. What's with the wacko sisters today?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1440352

[mwb970]

159. 9/11 did not change my opinion of the Chimp.

I was opposed to him even before he stole the first election. I could hardly believe the R's would nominate someone so obviously clueless and brain-damaged from alcohol use. But they did. And then the Supreme Court made him president after he lost the election.

I thought he was a terrible president on 9/10/01. I still thought he was a terrible president on 9/12/01. I don't know anyone who felt differently, but I don't have any right-wing friends. (I could never truly be friends with a Bushbot. Or a Christo-Fascist.)

I have never understood how our being attacked on his watch suddenly increased his job approval to 90%. Wasn't that actually kind of a failure of his administration?

Americans make no sense to me at all, and I've been one all my life. I wish I were European instead. They have their problems, but they're not batshit crazy.

[spanone]

161. No