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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:27 PM
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League of Women Voters SUPPORTS Paper Ballots (VVBP)
Now for something not about Leopold Rove:

http://www.verifiedvotingfoundation.org/article.php?id=6363

"MINNEAPOLIS – Verified Voting applauds the League of Women Voters (LWVUS) for its passage today of a resolution in support of voter-verified paper records and mandatory random manual audits of voting systems nationwide. The resolution was drafted by the League of Women Voters Minnesota (LWVMN) and put forward at the National League's Annual Convention, being held in Minneapolis.

Verified Voting's Bobbie Brinegar, Board Member of the Washington DC LWV, said "This support for voter-verified paper records, coming from the League of Women Voters, is truly a major step forward for election integrity. The League has long been a credible and reliable force in safeguarding our nation's elections."


Barbara Simons stated, "I'm thrilled that the League has reaffirmed its core value of protecting the citizens' right to vote and have that vote accurately counted." Dr. Simons is a Board member of Verified Voting, and past chair of the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM).

Several state Leagues, like Minnesota's, have been instrumental in supporting the passage of legislation for voter-verified paper records."

This is quite a turnaround from the obstructionist stance they had taken a few years ago regarding this issue. Woohoo!!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:30 PM
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1. Woohoo.... great news.
Add Kerry being on board to getting electronic voting machines banned state by state, and we are moving forward...... but, we need to add more Dem names to the movement.

Call your Dem reps and ask them to get on board.
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bluefish Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:32 PM
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2. Great news!
I hope all the states wake up and follow.

Thanks for posting.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:34 PM
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3. Why do they hate America?
:bounce:
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:34 PM
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4. Good for them. I guess citizens do care if the votes get counted
unlike the dancing supremes.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:50 PM
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5. The LWV
should also be brought back as the moderates of any pres. debates that are held.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 12:56 PM
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6. Paper records aren't paper ballots
And random audits aren't verified vote hand counts. It's a step in the right direction, but it really isn't enough.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 02:11 PM
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8. it seems they are using the terminology interchangeably
http://www.verifiedvotingfoundation.org/downloads/LWVUS-VVPR-2006.pdf

Whereas:


Some LWVs have had difficulty applying SARA Resolution (Secure, Accurate, Recountable and Accessible) which passed at the last convention, and

Whereas:

Paperless electronic voting systems are not inherently secure, can malfunction, and do not provide a recountable audit trail,

Therefore be it resolved that:

The position on the Citizen's Right to Vote be interpreted to affirm that LWVUS supports only voting systems that are designed so that:

a) they employ a voter-verifiable paper ballot or other paper record, said paper being the official record of the voter's intent; and
b) the voter can verify, either by eye or with the aid of suitable devices for those who have impaired vision, tht the paper ballot/record accurately reflects his or her intent, and
c) such verification takes place while the voter is still in the process of voting; and
d) the paper ballot/record is used for audits and recounts; and
e) the vote totals can be verified by an independent hand count of the paper ballot/record; and
f) routine audits of the paper ballot/record in randomly selected precincts can be conducted in every election, and the results published by the jurisdiction.

I personally think this is huge. I don't see how your second point plays into this unless you expect every single vote in every election to be hand counted. Do you?



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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 02:39 PM
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9. No, I'm not a hand counter
I would prefer the paper always be called the ballot, and that every machine have a sample hand verification, but otherwise, yes, this is pretty good.

After this we need registration and machine allocation reform.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 02:41 PM
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10. I agree.
Wording it this way is irresponsible, I don't know why they did it this way instead of just saying 'paper ballot' only, unless it's a legalistic thing.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 01:12 PM
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7. Excellent news.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 11:51 PM
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11. K&R n/t
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