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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:03 PM
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Immigration: A Study In Supply and Demand
Immigration: A Study In Supply and Demand

By The Gathering Storm
05/21/2006 02:11:31 PM EST
One of the fallacies of globalism as embodied in trade agreements like NAFTA is the notion that it will increase prosperity of all trading partners. Under NAFTA, Mexico's wages were supposed to increase, thereby increasing consumption and thus imports from the U.S., its nearest trading partner. Sadly, the opposite has happened, and the changes brought by NAFTA are now fueling the extraordinary migration of workers from Mexico to the U.S.


According to Jeff Faux in his book Global Class War, average Mexican wages in 1975 were around 23% of Average U.S. wages. They were 15% of U.S. wages around the time NAFTA was enacted. By 2002 they had fallen to 12%.

If your family was dirt poor with no future, would you make an illegal journey to another nation if you could increase your paycheck by 9 or 10 times?

The dramatic wage differential between the U.S. and Mexico is creating an extraordinary surplus of incredibly poor and motivated individuals. The Mexican government, which is nearly a pure Oligarchy, does nothing to mitigate the pain for its poorest citizens. In fact they have slashed farm subsidies to poor rural farmers. So what happens? Those poorr farmers show up framing the new house next door to you and and running around with leaf blowers in your neighborhod.

more . . .

http://mrdtalk.com/story/2006/5/21/131132/065
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:08 PM
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1. yup.
Free trade bites all of us in the ass again.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:10 PM
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2. I believe, that slowly, most people are starting to figure this out.
But it's been a battle.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:18 PM
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3. I hope you're right.
Armstead and I used to have an ongoing joke about NAFTA threads with "NADER" or some such as the subject line in order just to draw attention to them. As it is, I imagine the average Joe out here in the piney Georgia woods wouldn't have a clue what NAFTA is.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:11 PM
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6. Oh we know what NAFTA is here
The highway to Mexico, I-35, runs right through here. The increase in truck traffic has been unreal. And that was the only negative they really told us about before NAFTA, that our highways would wear out faster from the trucks.

I love that highway now cause it takes me down to Crawford and Camp Casey. :)

BTW, How's the baby?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:20 PM
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8. he's fine.
First top tooth coming in, which makes life fun. :eyes: :)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:55 PM
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10. whiskey - the cheaper the better
:)

Seriously, my kids loved those plastic things that have water in them and you put them in the fridge. I don't even know if you can still buy them but they worked great.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:45 PM
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12. we've tried those.
Mr. Impatient prefers infant Tylenol. (We're careful.)
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 06:27 PM
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4. Illegal Immigration = insourcing.
Bush/Big Biz = outsourcing.

One wants to make a buck helping Americans, the other wants to make a buck destroying America.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:00 PM
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5. Worked really good in UAE
Edited on Sat Jun-10-06 07:08 PM by FreakinDJ
No wonder Bush loves UAE so much - they are decades ahead of us and more advanced then the "Bush America" in exploiting workers

Asian Construction Workers Riot in Dubai



DUBAI, United Arab Emirates - About 2,500 foreign construction workers rioted over wages and working conditions at a building site in Dubai, smashing equipment and vehicles in the second violent protest by construction workers in a month in the fast-growing city.

Witnesses said workers employed by Al-Ahmadiah Contracting company demonstrated for more than four hours Wednesday at the Dubai Marina, clashing with riot police and smashing vehicles and machinery at the waterfront site, which includes residential towers, outdoor cafes and a marina.

"We get 450 dirhams ($123) a month," one worker said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he feared retribution. "It's not enough. We can't save any money."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060427/ap_on_re_mi_ea/emirates_workers_protest



Migrant Labor
Nearly 80 percent of the UAE’s population are foreigners, and foreigners account for 90 percent of the workforce in the private sector, including as domestic workers.

There are persistent credible reports of abuses committed by employers, especially in small firms and against low-skilled workers. A main factor is the immigration sponsorship laws that grant employers extraordinary control over the affairs of migrant workers.

http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2006/01/18/uae12233.htm


"The situation of migrant workers, which constitute about 95% of the private sector workforce, is particularly worrisome since they may be excluded from the scope of labour law, as in the case of domestic workers, and face the risk of deportation when claiming their rights. Abuses committed against migrant workers include non-payment of wages, extended working hours without overtime compensation, unsafe working environments resulting in death and injury, and withholding of passports and travel documents by employers."

Human Rights Watch immediately issued a press release condemning the treatment of migrant workers and alleging figures of 880 deaths per year on the construction sites of Dubai,

http://www.mafiwasta.com/


Maybe under Bush's policies we can all learn to live on $123 a month



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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:15 PM
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7. Wow that is fascinating
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 08:40 PM
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11. Quite the connection
BFEE and the exploitation of workers.

It also demonstrates we need to be cautious of mass immigration being used to exploit the working class
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 07:31 PM
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9. Supply and Demand of Drugs that is
Drugs demand is constant, and supply is merely finding its natural
bottom when medicine, pharmaceuticals and drugs are controlled by a
corporate monopoly that abuses its position against the poor.

Drugs supply corrupts all government and police efforts, whilst dumping
huge external costs on the public, both by taking away those who's goodwill,
both economic and personal, is divorced from the society, and by costing
billions in prison and police systems, as well as the invasive laws that
permit searches, seizures and prison slavery.

Then the corrupt and failing governments south of the border are suffering
for the rule of law, and a just court and police system, all denied by the
drugs war. So more and more people come to work in the drugs war supply
chain, as that is the only busienss left standing after the corruption
rolls through. Then the regular people move north to get real jobs after
they are denied a state by the north's drugs tomfoolery.

And it all beings with the lie that americans are not serious addicts,
addicts of every drug on the planet from cannabis to mass killing. If
a thrill can be derived from somthing, americans are involved, injecting
the thrill, skiing off cliffs in extreme skiing, extreme wave riding,
drink, TV, sex, hate, violence, football, basketball, hockey, studying,
being the smartest, smoking pot, and the ultimate drug, cable TV... all
a nation of addicts is that proverbial demand. It is the demand that
is killing the wages, and bringing the immigrants indeed, but a different
demand than this article suggests. It is the demand in people to run
away from the aweful slavery lives they are living, and their junkie-drive
to pay and steal whatever cost to have their run-away-fix.

So, yes, immigration is about supply and demand, about racist laws that
were outdated when they were made, laws that are destroying the entirity
of north american society and reducing it to a corrupt ungovernable
chaotic entity. Americans don't play russian roulette with only 1 bullet,
no, we fill all the chambers knowing we'll get our fix if it kills us.
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