al-Zarqawi is dead on March 4, 2004 (& other dead dates)

[Solly Mack]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4446084/

al-Zarqawi is dead - June 2, 2005 (Ramadi)

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.173437230&par=0


al-Zarqawi MAY be dead - Nov 20, 2005

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1132475588009&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


al-Zarqawi seriously injured may be dead - May 11, 2005 (Anbar province/Syrian border)

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.165740392&par=0



For reference/research purposes...(and my own edification..teehee)

Any other dead dates? Please post. Thanks!

[KittyWampus]

1. Now isn't that special. Thanks for doing the work, SM!

[Solly Mack]

6. Welcome. I'm still looking for more dates. I'm curious now

just exactly how many times this man has died. :)

[Jeffersons Ghost]

57. keep looking and kicking

:kick:

[Karenina]

66. Yeah, but I wanna know

HOW MANY LEGS AND EYES HE'S LOST!!! ;-)

[Waya]

2. What can I say.....the dude has 9 lives........

...at least....maybe he stays dead this time.

[Solly Mack]

15. Rumsfeld is now speaking on this latest death

Publicity is far and wide this time...maybe he will stay dead this time.

but I wonder who the new "most wanted" will be...

[LibDemAlways]

64. New most wanted sure to be a

shadowy Iranian terrorist who has committed many atrocities in Iraq but known to have fled to Tehran and in cahoots with the Iranian government and al-qaeda. Bank on it.

[Cerridwen]

3. Thank you!

I guess I wasn't the only one wondering if someone had kept score. Wonder if this guy has 9 lives or more? Do you think he believes in reincarnation?



:evilgrin:

[Solly Mack]

12. There has to be more dates - I've heard of him dying so often

I'll keep looking

[htuttle]

4. But, they have *confirmation* this time!

CNN said, "according to a statement on a website", Al-Queda confirmed he was dead. I tried looking for it at 'alqueda.com' but couldn't find it -- do you think it's maybe a '.org' address?

But in any case, 'a statement on a website' sounds pretty firm, doesn't it?

:eyes:

[meisje]

7. alqueda.com - Hilarious! maybe it's a .gov or .bis

[SCDem]

8. Thanks for that laugh

.org - is Al Quaeda a 501(c)(3) - Maybe we could look at it's tax filings to see.

[Solly Mack]

10. Teehee...maybe it's dot.evildoers

lol

[robbedvoter]

5. Ah, but how many legs does he have? Real? Wood? Fiberglass?

and...

[Tsiyu]

9. Thanks

when I saw all the dead Zarquawi threads this AM, I was thinking, "didn't this dude die about a dozen times already? Can't they find ANY other terrorist besides him?"

Glad I wasn't imagining I'd heard of his demise over and over and over.

And I bet all of those above dates correspond to a point when * needed a boost in his approval numbers ? :shrug:

[Solly Mack]

19. With Zarqawi "finally and really" dead - the next name is coming

He has died so often I too was beginning to think all those deaths were urban legend....but no.

[symbolman]

11. I started to collect these stories as I knew this would happen eventually

but I lost the list, I want to thank you for this, popping this bullshit bubble passed on by a Media that of course people here REFUSE to believe unless it had backed up Leopold's Bunk, or used as verification for other silly "conspiracy" stuff..

There IS a conspiracy, and it IS by the media NOISE machine, designed to FRAME the issue so all YOU folks will talk about in thread after thread is WHAT you've been LED TO fight (framing), instead of CREATING your own news and stories based on actual fact, and promoting THOSE.

If WE are to Become the media we must IGNORE most of what we pass on by them, and MAKE OUR OWN NEWS, based on truth and factual data done with research from our own fine minds right here on the DU, or KOS or other reputable Blogs.. the New Media need not be led by the nose and Rove's Fax machine.

Great list, PROVES the Media IS LYING, this is designed for multiple reasons, it's goddam psyops, to raise Bush's numbers, make us ignore the war crimes committed by our own troops, etc.

Let's cut out the WOO WOO and work on finding out the TRUTH instead of parroting the MSM's 'reports'..

[titoresque]

16. BINGO!!!

:applause: I completely agree!

I was thinking about this a lot last night. Tossing and turning.
We really have so many good writers and researchers here on DU. It would be great to do some real reporting, and some real grass roots organizing.

[Solly Mack]

18. Welcome. I wish I had a more complete listing of death dates and injuries

I'll keep looking. We have to be our own journalists...no other way to get the facts.

[symbolman]

21. I've got an MRI in a few hours

When I get back I'll look for the list I was compiling and maybe we can compare Notes..

Takebackthemedia.com once forced CNN to put BACK 750 words it had REMOVED from a Hans Blix report on NO WMD long BEFORE the "war", and THAT is what we all need to do now.. get this list together and use it to HAMMER the Media with it..

good job Solly!!

No better time to BE THE MEDIA than RIGHT NOW, use the Media's OWN STORIES and shove them up their asses :)

[malaise]

35. You're right

but I've already said I don't believe one word from this regime.

[omega minimo]

37. Gay Marriage Ann Coulter Al-Zarqawi Gay Marriage Ann Coulter Al-Zarqawi

And after that comes Newsdump Friday!!!!


Well Symbolman, esp. coming from you and the work you have contributed to "becoming the media"....

Why are people playing along with games they know are being played on them? You are speaking to the potential of a board like this to do more than regurgitate and bat around the dead mouse we were tossed to amuse ourselves with.

We could only hope that even Republicans would be insulted this week that the Gay Marriage red flag was waved in their faces timed with the election. The more people figure out the media games they resort to cynicism-- settling for identifying it and nothing more-- or tuning out altogether. And btw, WHY before EVERY election, do the papers print that no one is going to show up?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We could only hope that DUers will recognize all the phonies here that are fanning the flames of framing games and batting around that dead mouse until its in shreds.

[symbolman]

47. I like your writing style

great way to lay it all out and on the line.. batting THEIR dead mice around.. wish people would realize they are being PLAYED..

Now this is a bit off topic, and while I have gay pals and it IS an important topic, the right has us "HATING" the rest of the US by REFUSING to be Indocrinated with THEIR SPIN..

It's a Trap. Sure, Gays, Trannys, etc have the RIGHT to stand up and be counted, and us heteros along side them.. BUT, and this always comes back to me..

THe KKK got a permit to march in downtown LA, and usually when they do, good kind and generous loving people will usually LINE THE STREETS, scream at the Hateful assholes wearing the bags over their heads..

THIS ONLY DIGNIFIES the KKK. As one black police Chief said, "STAY HOME. DO NOT ATTEND THIS PARADE. DO NOT GET INVOLVED. Do you realise how STUPID and ineffectual the KKK will Look, MARCHING DOWN AN EMPTY STREET?"

I've never forgotten that, and wish that as far as he Media yanking our chains, forcing us to "choose sides" in complicated affairs, that WE WOULD TAKE THE UPPER HAND, and IGNORE THEM..

Better yet, WE supply PROOF that they are WRONG, just like SOLLY is doing HERE.. THEN WE get in LOCKSTEP, all the BLOGS ALL OVER THE WEB, and WE TELL THE TRUTH, the REAL Stories, BE the New MEDIA..

THis is how we can win.. make THEM REPORT from OUR Stories, and truth be told the lazy asses are already doing it in a lot of ways, they don't have or can't afford the staff to do it, but WE CAN.. we have the Passion, the Numbers, the Minds, the Truth, the Integrity to BEAT THEM at their own Game...

WE created the news that everyone is talking about around the watercooler on FRIDAY, have our OWN NEWS DUMP..

The Lazy media will use SOME of our work, and then, if we all LOCKSTEP, decide on a subject, and all the BLOGS HAMMER on it, the media CANNOT ignore us..

I've seen it happen on smaller scales, and soon I'm going to be asking many blogs to created a SINGLE editoral board and a site where we who can be trusted can "call the shots" without sites and blogs losing their branding, to LOCKSTEP and ATTACK the Media with FACTS and TRUTH..

We can do it, trust me, I've done it and seen it work.

Solly and all here, YOU have inspired me to drop some projects and make this a REALITY.. and of course those who control the Media, control the actual REALITY of the thoughts of All americans, with that comes the CHANGE..

Now is the time to STRIKE, Let's ROLL :)

[omega minimo]

48. With you except for the "Lockstep" bit (visions of jackboots)

and know people that would be open (still paying attention) to well-crafted news-- folks who still depend on MSM and papers, even while they know it's junk and propaganda.... that's how crazy it's gotten, an open secret that "it's all lies."

:hi: bless you symbolman and don't miss the thread on "my dinner with Ambassador Wilson."

[symbolman]

51. I know that Lockstep has bad connotations, BUT

What I am proposing is that as we all know there are many Blogs out there who "parrot" whatever comes down the line and slap it on their sites, many only to be dissapointed later to find out that they have egg all over their faces - and left with a connundrum, "How do we Explain that we were WRONG, do we print a 'retraction', do we admit we were fooled, even by a 'progressive' story, and will we lose readership as a result?"

Many blogs have been put into bad situations by printing ill researched "scoops" (whatever you may believe on the Leopold debacle, it still caused a great deal of consternation, and many are in a holding pattern) - esp when 400 blogs simply became 'repeater stations' if nothing else to have some sort of CONTENT and fighting for our own Progressives in that regard..

This is where an Editorial Board comes in, those that DON'T print something that isn't up to snuff Journalistically, need to be left hanging for a bit, and congratulated IF it comes true, but later with the whole story and the PROOF that it WAS indeed TRUE, but later, not BEFORE something has happened..

There are PLENTY of those who do not print something without further investigation, or who have a history of being on the MARK every time, let's say someone like Greg Palast, who I would trust under any circumstance, they do the work, and what they say is golden and to be trusted..

Palast is someone who you KNOW you can print when it hits the waves, and a portal like what I propose would be SPOT ON and useful NOW, when we can SLAM the media NOW, while they are pushing bullshit..

Just like Solly's post here and all the threads, PROOF that the Media is not to be trusted NOW anymore than before..

BUT, it will not mean that blogs are NOT to be believed, just that people with experience, a TIGHT Editorial board for the New Media make the call, and refuse to print something that will demean our efforts ON THE SPOT.

I'm now realizing that this needs to be done and before the Midterms, with advertising for Progresives books, films, etc that CANNOT be subvered by the MSM, period.

Maybe THIS is what Takebackthemedia.com needs to pull together (along with our exposes cloaked as Flash Political attack ads, of which we've done very well), and THEN the Blogs can spread the word on these articles, books, animations that CANNOT be disputed, organized into sections daily, like Politics, Environmental, Elections - who to back and who NOT, Electronic Voting information that is BULLETPROOF by folks like Avi Rueben, etc..

Get Tom Tommorrow on board, Buzzflash (who are VERY careful not to jump the shark on stories), and KOS, and the myriad of sites like firedoglake, who's very group of writers are LEGALS who take the sane approach, no tin foil, just FACTS, etc..

IT IS TIME.. I've gone on O'Reilly, and MSNBC's Scarborough show and shoved the facts up their asses on national TV, and believe me they fold up like lawn chairs when the TRUTH is shoved in their faces, THEN you load up those clips to further your claim that the Coalition (which I've always called "The 13 Original CyberColonies" IS THE NEWS..

I'm going to start contacting all those I KNOW for a fact to not tin foil the news, that make perfect sense that the PUBLIC can get behind, and clean up the Blog "repeater station" mentality that keeps up from reaching the next level, the dangerous level where WE ARE THE NEWS :)

Takebackthemedia.com held a Media Summit during the Dem convention and we have a group that has Brilliant ideas, it's time to use them.

We'll tear a page out of the right wing noise machine's playbook, but NOT use the Playbook itself..

Thoughts?

WHO WILL HELP ME BAKE THE BREAD? :)

[Jigarotta]

63. yeeeehaaaaaa!

what a great post/idea, symbolman.
there's Hope! omg, there's hope!
with more people in the net media like you (firedoglake, buzz, etc. - the ones you mentioned), with passion and little patience for the 'mouse batting' (lordy, that's a great phrase, clear as a bell from my viewpoint), there's hope!

[Junkdrawer]

13. The certainty of his death THIS time sure lends credence...

to the "CIA Myth" speculation.

[Solly Mack]

22. The publicity is greater for this death too...must be the final death

I'm wondering who the next most wanted is....since he's finally dead dead

[htuttle]

26. His story arc was getting old and tired

They want to bring some new faces in for the midterms.

[mhatrw]

70. More like DOD myth.

WaPo - Zarqawi is a US Military PSYOP: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/09/AR2006040900890.html

The NY Times Played Along: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002314713

Zarqawi - Bush's Man For All Seasons: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FJ15Ak02.html

UPI (Moonie Times) - How the US Created the Zarqawi Myth: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:2QuiYcfLZV0J:www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php%3FStoryID%3D20051110-014753-2561r+Claim:+U.S.+Created+al-Zarqawi+Myth&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

CIA Agent Says US Allowed Zarqawi to Escape: http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/us-allowed-zarqawi-to-escape/2006/04/30/1146335608444.html

How the US fuelled myth of Zarqawi the mastermind: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/10/04/wirq04.xml

Reputed Terrorist Al-Zarqawi Still Shrouded in U.S.-Fed Myth, Mystery: http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/1546

Zarqawi - Everywhere & Nowhere: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GG07Ak02.html

A collection of pix of our happily finally actually dead parrot: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2327738&mesg_id=2328504

A collection of previous links saying Zarqawi was dead, seriously injured or captured: http://www.conjur.com/blog/2005/11/20/zarqawis-dead-again-3rd-times-a-charm-eh

From: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2006/04/10/GR2006041000097.html



Just saying ...

[KharmaTrain]

14. Today It Was Fred Al-Zarqawi

Those others were Guido, Jose, Julian, Seymour and Jaime.

I saw a freeper bouncing around this morning like this was the greatest thing since...well...well...well...

In the big scheme of things, this means zero as he doesn't pull the triggers and plants the IEDs...and those aren't going away. Now the boooosh regime will have to find, or make up, another boogie man.

I just heard Ray Lahood...(R - Pissant) already saying..."hey, we don't know if there not another Zarquawi out there"...sounds like the next game is being set.

[Solly Mack]

17. Exactly...the next "most wanted" is on the way

[demswin06]

23. Of course there is another Zarqawi...

out there. We keep making them and keep on killing them for propaganda coups. The violence continues.

[KharmaTrain]

36. Remeber, The Fear Factor Is Starting To Kick In

Looks like the Rove machine is rolling out the Fall model several months early. From the sham immigration game to gay marriage and now let's get back to the terror game.

Look for Zarqawi to be like the Skittles Homeland Safety alert game of 2006...next it'll be a Sadr or some other trumped up name that will be that next "mastermind" that can dominate a news cycle.

Makes me wonder what bad news this is trying to cover up...

[watrwefitinfor]

50. If they're rolling all this crap out now

(immigration, gay marriage, flag burning, Dead Terrorist) then what do they have up their sleeves for this fall?

Wat

[KharmaTrain]

52. A Million Points Of Slime...

Be prepared...i'm not sure the Democratic party is yet.

Cheers...

[MorningGlow]

60. I thought the same thing, KT

When I heard the news while driving in to work this morning, my first reaction was "What, they killed him AGAIN? Puh-LEEZE." After confusing my toddler by ranting and raving back at the radio, spitting all over the inside of my windshield, my next thought was, "Wow. The Bushies are really scared." This is October Surprise material, but they trotted it out now? This smacks of desperation--gay marriage amendment foiled (for now); estate tax removal foiled...they're losing it.

Now, what about those electronic voting machines...

[pacificliberal]

20. Thank You

I was also wondering how many deaths he had gone through. Found the one in March 2004.

[Solly Mack]

25. Hi! Welcome to DU!

When I first heard the news of this latest death, I thought, "Again?"...so went looking.

[Clark2008]

24. Wow! Thanks for all those links!

My husband called me at work when he got up this morning to get my take on this and its political ramifications.

I told him that Zarqawi had been reported dead many times before - now I have the links I can email him when he gets to work.

For the record, my husband is a New England liberal former Army linguist who worked in pre-war Bosnia gathering information he's not privvy to tell me. I wanted to make clear that he thinks this Zarqawi death thing is purely political and he'll find these links very interesting.

[Solly Mack]

27. Welcome. It does beggar the question, "How many more time has

bin Laden died compared to Zarqawi?"

bin Laden's another one that has been dead, alive again, and dead again...

[Freddie Stubbs]

28. So, this is the first time that the US gov't is saying that he is dead?

:shrug:

[Solly Mack]

30. I don't know - the articles found so far suggest that

that US military were quoting other officials at least one other time

I'm still looking for more stories.

[Point_n_click]

29. Didn't we also kill him in Afghanistan in 2001?

Or am I thinking someone else?

I could swear I remember reports of this guy being killed in Afghanistan in 2001 and then a month later reports of him escaping detention there, and then him being killed again in 2002 and then showing up alive in Iraq after the invasion started.

Perhaps I've got the name mixed up with someone, but I gave up on counting his "deaths" a long time ago.

[Solly Mack]

34. Dunno. Have to look. bin Laden dies and comes back to life a lot too

After a while, all the deaths just meld together...

I need to get all the bin Laden is dead..is alive...articles together as well

[LibertyorDeath]

31. LOL ! Thanx Solly .How US fuelled myth of Zarqawi the mastermind

How US fuelled myth of Zarqawi the mastermind
By Adrian Blomfield outside Fallujah
(Filed: 04/10/2004)

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the terrorist leader believed to be responsible for the abduction of Kenneth Bigley, is 'more myth than man', according to American military intelligence agents in Iraq.
Several sources said the importance of Zarqawi, blamed for many of the most spectacular acts of violence in Iraq, has been exaggerated by flawed intelligence and the Bush administration's desire to find "a villain" for the post-invasion mayhem.

Zarqawi fuels his ambition with the release of a video of the beheading of Nick Berg

US military intelligence agents in Iraq have revealed a series of botched and often tawdry dealings with unreliable sources who, in the words of one source, "told us what we wanted to hear".
"We were basically paying up to $10,000 a time to opportunists, criminals and chancers who passed off fiction and supposition about Zarqawi as cast-iron fact, making him out as the linchpin of just about every attack in Iraq," the agent said.

"Back home this stuff was gratefully received and formed the basis of policy decisions. We needed a villain, someone identifiable for the public to latch on to, and we got one."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/10/04/wirq04.xml

[Solly Mack]

32. Thanks for the article!!!!!

:hi:LibertyorDeath

[LibertyorDeath]

41. You're welcome...another good one

Bush, Al-Zarqawi and Mutual Mythologies

Al-Zarqawi reportedly fled Afghanistan in late 2001 while the country was under invasion by the US and UK. Several reports say Al-Zarqawi spent much of 2002 moving back and forth from Iran to Iraq. The Bush administration claims that Al-Zarqawi set up a poison and explosives training camp in northern Iraq, working alongside members of Ansar Al-Islam (supporters of Islam). However, that organization, heavily targeted during the 2003 US invasion, was vocally and militantly opposed to Saddam Hussein.

Al-Zarqawi is also alleged by the Bush administration to have been working with Al-Qaeda on a strategy to ignite a civil war among Iraq’s disparate religious and political factions as a way to undermine the US occupation, thus clearing the way for a Taliban-like state.

At the same time, some Iraqis, who doubt Al-Zarqawi’s presence, guilt or even existence, suggest his legend is mostly a CIA or Pentagon construction and that the terrorist acts attributed to him are actually carried out by secret American or Israeli operatives. They likewise suggest the mythic Al-Zarqawi is part of a foreign strategy to divide Iraq’s religious sects and political factions and justify a prolonged occupation.

http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/1546

[symbolman]

33. Please send this list and any more you get here or otherwise

to BUZZFLASH ASAP..

Believe me they will be very intereste and it will reach a LOT Of people, SMART ones who will dig up even MORE, THEN the Blogs with Credence can SLAM the Media with this..

This can easily take the wind out of Bush's sails, esp since it was the SAME MEDIA reporting it before..

I love it :)

[Solly Mack]

46. Done

:)

[helderheid]

38. Hopefully we'll hear this on KO

[Roland99]

39. Oh yeah. He's been killed/hurt so many times. I blogged this a while back>

http://www.conjur.com/blog/2005/11/20/zarqawis-dead-again-3rd-times-a-charm-eh/

[Solly Mack]

40. Excellent , Roland99!!!! Thank you!!!!! (MORE dates, everyone)

New dates added to my hard copy list...Much appreciation!!!!

[Roland99]

43. My pleasure!

:)

[malaise]

42. Please send these to KO

and other media outlets. Soledad may need these urgently. Her enthusiasm this morning was mind-blowing.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

44. he's a RESURRECTION TERRORIST deified by spin! LOL K&R

[reprehensor]

45. Dead... again and again and again...

Instant replay.

[robbedvoter]

49. Also, remember Saddam's capture? It changed everything!

[Art_from_Ark]

77. And Saddam was "bombed" before he was captured, too

http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/national/2003/04/07/baghdad_strike030407.html

And "bin Laden" was bombed when he was standing out in his field
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0118-32.htm

[Skinner]

53. Guys, actually click the links and read the headlines.

Every single one of them has a qualifier of some kind (and one of them says he's injured, not dead):

Iraq militants claim al-Zarqawi is dead
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4446084

IRAQ: FALLUJAH SHEIKH SAYS AL-ZARQAWI DIED ON FRIDAY
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.173437230&par=0

Report: al-Zarqawi may have been killed in Mosul
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1132475588009&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

IRAQ: AL-ZARQAWI SERIOUSLY INJURED, SAYS IRAQI OFFICIAL
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.165740392&par=0

Please try to be more careful in your reading of the news. Words have meaning. This time is different. Zarqawi is actually dead this time -- accept it.

[Solly Mack]

54. I do use "may" and seriously injured in the OP

and the seriously injured one also says "possibly dead"

I wasn't trying to mislead anyone. Sorry if it seemed that way.

[Left Coast Lynn]

56. You skipped "Iraqi militants claim"

in the title of this thread.

Skinner beat me to it. None of your links has American officials confirming his death. It's real this time.

[Solly Mack]

59. Nor do I make the claim that US officials made such claims in the articles

Do I?

Nope..sure don't. At NO time do I claim the US made the claims that al-Zarqawi is dead...I am gathering dates for all the claims..regardless of who made them.

[Left Coast Lynn]

61. Misleading, at best

Your manufactured headlines..

al-Zarqawi is dead on March 4, 2004
al-Zarqawi is dead - June 2, 2005 (Ramadi)
al-Zarqawi MAY be dead - Nov 20, 2005
al-Zarqawi seriously injured may be dead - May 11, 2005 (Anbar province/Syrian border)


The actual headlines....

Iraq militants claim al-Zarqawi is dead
IRAQ: FALLUJAH SHEIKH SAYS AL-ZARQAWI DIED ON FRIDAY
IRAQ: AL-ZARQAWI SERIOUSLY INJURED, SAYS IRAQI OFFICIAL
Report: al-Zarqawi may have been killed in Mosul


Look pretty different. So why did you alter them?

[Solly Mack]

68. I didn't alter the headlines as I didn't use any headlines

I used the dates of the articles and listed if the article said dead or injured, may be dead. That you, and anyone else, choose to make more of it than that is solely on those pulling accusations out of their asses.

If you choose to assume motivation and intent, do try and know what you're talking about. Thanks in advance.

And if you're unsure, try asking instead of doing to others exactly what you've accused me of...you're "misleading" by suggesting I altered headlines...though misleading isn't exactly the word I'm thinking of...

[Left Coast Lynn]

71. I'm afraid you did some altering

even though you might not want to call your concoctions 'headlines', they're still phrases that omit some very relevant information.

Instead, the site administrator had to tell people to click and read the headlines

Why didn't you simply provide the actual headlines with your links? Wouldn't that have been simpler to making a phrase to go with it?

[Pastiche423]

65. And you know this to be true, how Skinner?

Were you privy to the actually killing? Do you have his DNA to match the "Zarqawi" this time?

How many legs did he have when he was killed this time?

[KoKo]

75. AP Reports: Zarqawi lived briefly after attack, tried to get off stretcher

Zarqawi lived briefly after attack

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A mortally wounded Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was still alive and mumbling after American airstrikes on his hideout and tried to get off a stretcher when he became aware of U.S. troops at the scene, a top military official said Friday.

http://news.yahoo.com/

[leftofthedial]

55. He still hasn't died as many times as Emanuel Goldstein

He'll die at least once again before the elections

[Snivi Yllom]

58. Karl Rove was indicted May 12, 2006

newspapers and reporters make mistakes

[deaniac21]

74. It is a SEALED indictment. What is so hard to understand about

that?

[Number_6]

62. Actual intercept of Zarq communication

"Kill me once....shame on you."
"Kill me twice...shame on you, er, doh.....umm....Won't get psy-ops'ed again!!"

[ecstatic]

67. I knew I wasn't crazy! For those of us who actually watch news

He has been pronounced dead several times. And the sad part is, our media doesn't question it. How do they not remember?

[DianaForRussFeingold]

69. I am so glad you posted this, Thank You,

:pals: Great Job!

[zulchzulu]

72. I remember some dates in 2004...

I'm pretty sure it was during the election that one of the assholes claimed he was killed...Cheney maybe...

[NNN0LHI]

73. That was the skinny al-Zarqawi who got killed though

This was the new and improved heavy duty version of al-Zarqawi who was killed the other day.

Don

[LisaL]

80. Presumably the two legged one.

[Swamp Rat]

76. I am suspicious of the U.S. Government's story about the Zarqawi killing.

Was Zarqawi at ground zero? Do we know exactly where his body was found?

I ask because I doubt there would be an ounce of flesh remaining after two 500 lb. bombs (Mk 82s) landed on Zarqawi's lap.

No matter what, Zarqawi will be replaced by a dozen others, and his martyrdom will be a great rallying cry for more 'terrorists.'

[LisaL]

79. They got a body. At least the head looks to be in good shape.

[LisaL]

78. This time they actually have a body. Of course they could

show me any fat dead guy, say it's Abu Musab, and I wouldn't know any better, but at lest it's clear someone is actually dead this time.