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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:44 PM
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My theory on anti-gay bigots
Remember those kids in middle school who called everyone they didn't like a "faggot" and assumed that anything they didn't like/understand was "gay"? When they grow up (and I use the phraise loosely), they just become RW Christians/Republicans.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:48 PM
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1. Nah.
Edited on Tue Jun-06-06 05:02 PM by Bornaginhooligan
Using the term "gay" and "faggot" is, unfortunately, rather popular with middle and highschool students. I give them a benefit of the doubt, just because they're kids and too dumb to know any better.

I doubt that most of them grow up to be homophobes and/or republicans.

Perhaps an example is in order:

When a twelve year old boy says "Spongebob is totally gay" I think he's a normal kid who probably likes cartoons but wants to act mature and pretend he doesn't by being critical and cynical.

When James Dobson says "Spongebob is totally gay" then I assume homophobe, plus really immature and a terrible taste in cartoons.
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:22 PM
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6. I have an example as well.
My daughter used the 'gay' term in a derogatory sense when she was in middle school. She certainly wouldn't have heard that from anyone at home, so I explained to her a thing or three about it.

Today, several years later, we were having lunch and discussing some news of the last couple days and I brought up the George anti-gay marriage issue.
You should have heard her! She ripped into him good, calling him an asshole and that it's none of his damn business who anyone wants to get married to!

I was so proud. Even of the expletives. ;)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:24 PM
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7. Good for her.
And you.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:53 PM
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2. There was a study on how to spot which kid will grow up to be a Repuke.
Edited on Tue Jun-06-06 04:56 PM by BrklynLiberal
How to spot a baby conservative
KID POLITICS | Whiny children, claims a new study, tend to grow up rigid and traditional. Future liberals, on the other hand ...

Mar. 19, 2006. 10:45 AM


Remember the whiny, insecure kid in nursery school, the one who always thought everyone was out to get him, and was always running to the teacher with complaints? Chances are he grew up to be a conservative.

At least, he did if he was one of 95 kids from the Berkeley area that social scientists have been tracking for the last 20 years. The confident, resilient, self-reliant kids mostly grew up to be liberals.

The study from the Journal of Research Into Personality isn't going to make the UC Berkeley professor who published it any friends on the right. Similar conclusions a few years ago from another academic saw him excoriated on right-wing blogs, and even led to a Congressional investigation into his research funding.

But the new results are worth a look. In the 1960s Jack Block and his wife and fellow professor Jeanne Block (now deceased) began tracking more than 100 nursery school kids as part of a general study of personality. The kids' personalities were rated at the time by teachers and assistants who had known them for months. There's no reason to think political bias skewed the ratings — the investigators were not looking at political orientation back then. Even if they had been, it's unlikely that 3- and 4-year-olds would have had much idea about their political leanings.

A few decades later, Block followed up with more surveys, looking again at personality, and this time at politics, too. The whiny kids tended to grow up conservative, and turned into rigid young adults who hewed closely to traditional gender roles and were uncomfortable with ambiguity.

The confident kids turned out liberal and were still hanging loose, turning into bright, non-conforming adults with wide interests. The girls were still outgoing, but the young men tended to turn a little introspective.

Block admits in his paper that liberal Berkeley is not representative of the whole country. But within his sample, he says, the results hold. He reasons that insecure kids look for the reassurance provided by tradition and authority, and find it in conservative politics. The more confident kids are eager to explore alternatives to the way things are, and find liberal politics more congenial.

In a society that values self-confidence and out-goingness, it's a mostly flattering picture for liberals. It also runs contrary to the American stereotype of wimpy liberals and strong conservatives.

Of course, if you're studying the psychology of politics, you shouldn't be surprised to get a political reaction. Similar work by John T. Jost of Stanford and colleagues in 2003 drew a political backlash. The researchers reviewed 44 years worth of studies into the psychology of conservatism, and concluded that people who are dogmatic, fearful, intolerant of ambiguity and uncertainty, and who crave order and structure are more likely to gravitate to conservatism. Critics branded it the "conservatives are crazy" study and accused the authors of a political bias.

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more.....
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1142722231554
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joneschick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:06 PM
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3. well, I know my 3 were happy and pretty easy going
since infancy. When I was pregnant with #3, a friend said "just wait til you have a real baby!" Yeah, her kids were whiny, demanding and pretty high strung........just sayin'
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:14 PM
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5. Having taught all ages since 1972 I agree with the
study about the type of children who grow up to be conservative. I find that children of very strict parents in general have a lot of these characteristics. They are also rather sneaky. I teach kids from public and private schools and these trends are definitely obvious in fundamentalist schools.

I have, however, noticed a trend in kids who grow up to be very liberal. Some (not all, of course) have a lot of trouble focusing, carrying through tasks, sticking with a project, self-discipline in general. Many of these kids are attending "Summerhill"-type free schools where they are not held to any particular schedule or expectations, but allowed to work at their own pace and inclination.

But both those examples are extreme. Most kids are somewhere between those extremes.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:13 PM
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4. A study on homophobes.
http://www.philosophy-religion.org/handouts/homophobia.htm

And the 4 paragraph snipola:

WASHINGTON -- Psychoanalytic theory holds that homophobia -- the fear, anxiety, anger, discomfort and aversion that some ostensibly heterosexual people hold for gay individuals -- is the result of repressed homosexual urges that the person is either unaware of or denies. A study appearing in the August 1996 issue of the Journal of Abnormal Psychology, published by the American Psychological Association (APA), provides new empirical evidence that is consistent with that theory.

Researchers at the University of Georgia conducted an experiment involving 35 homophobic men and 29 nonhomophobic men as measured by the Index of Homophobia scale. All the participants selected for the study described themselves as exclusively heterosexual both in terms of sexual arousal and experience.

Each participant was exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual and lesbian videotapes (but not necessarily in that order). Their degree of sexual arousal was measured by penile plethysmography, which precisely measures and records male tumescence.

Men in both groups were aroused by about the same degree by the video depicting heterosexual sexual behavior and by the video showing two women engaged in sexual behavior. The only significant difference in degree of arousal between the two groups occurred when they viewed the video depicting male homosexual sex: 'The homophobic men showed a significant increase in penile circumference to the male homosexual video, but the control men did not.'

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:47 PM
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8. or become raging queens . . . :) n/t
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