Doonesbury : IN MEMORIAM

[tocqueville]

[Lithos]

1. Appropriate

While this is from 2004, I still think the Dems are more respectful in general.

[UrbScotty]

2. May they each rest in peace. (nt)

[niyad]

4. and may the murderous, lying bastards who sentenced them to death,

and their adoring little sheeple fans, never know a moment of peace.

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. Impeach, Indict, Imprison

Nothing less is acceptable.

[IndyOp]

7. You forgot :Repeat

Impeach, Indict, Imprison

Repeat

Impeach, Indict, Imprison

Repeat

Impeach, Indict, Imprison

Repeat...

[progressivebydesign]

3. RIP. Too many lost.. n/t

[Supersedeas]

28. Too many

[deutsey]

6. Cake walk

:evilfrown:

[grytpype]

30. Bush told Pat Robertson there would be NO CASUALTIES!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49088-2004Oct20.html

Bush Predicted No Iraq Casualties, Robertson Says

By Alan Cooperman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, October 21, 2004; Page A09

The Rev. Pat Robertson said President Bush dismissed his warning that the United States would suffer heavy casualties in Iraq and told the television evangelist just before the beginning of the war that "we're not going to have any casualties."

Robertson related the conversation during an interview with CNN late Tuesday. He said he spoke to Bush before the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 and urged him to prepare the nation for heavy casualties. While Bush's response was a mistake, Robertson said, God has blessed the president anyhow.

Sen. John F. Kerry's campaign pounced on the remarks yesterday.

"We believe President Bush should get the benefit of the doubt here, but he needs to come forward and answer a very simple question," Kerry adviser Mike McCurry said in a statement. "Is Pat Robertson telling the truth when he said you didn't think there'd be any casualties, or is Pat Robertson lying?"

White House political adviser Karl Rove told reporters that Bush never said he did not expect casualties. "I was right there," Rove said of the president's conversation with Robertson.

In a statement yesterday, Robertson did not back away from his comments about Bush and said, "I emphatically stated that I believe 'the blessing of heaven is upon him,' and I am persuaded that he will win this election and prevail on the war against terror."

Robertson, who made a bid for the GOP presidential nomination in 1988, has repeatedly suggested on his "700 Club" cable television show that he believes God favors Bush's reelection. But he denied in Tuesday's interview with CNN's Paula Zahn that he has tried to instruct Christians on how to vote.

"I just said, I think God's blessing him, and I think it's one of those things that, even if he stumbles and messes up -- and he's had his share of goofs and gaffes -- I just think God's blessing is on him. And you remember, I think the Chinese used to say, you know, it's the blessing of heaven on the emperor. And I think the blessing of heaven is on Bush. It's just the way it is," Robertson said.

Asked about Bush's mistakes, the evangelist recalled: "I met with him down in Nashville before the Gulf war started. And he was the most self-assured man I ever met in my life." Borrowing a line from Mark Twain, Robertson said Bush looked "like a contented Christian with four aces."

"He was just sitting there, like, I'm on top of the world, and I warned him about this war. I had deep misgivings about this war, deep misgivings. And I was trying to say, 'Mr. President, you better prepare the American people for casualties,' " Robertson said.

"Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties," Robertson quoted Bush as saying. " 'Well,' I said, 'it's the way it's going to be. . . . The Lord told me it was going to be, A, a disaster and, B, messy.' "

[ovidsen]

8. Was Luckovich the inspiration?

No big deal. Anything to spread the word.

[Dudley_DUright]

10. Check the date on the Doonesbury version

It is 4/23/05. US military deaths did not hit 2000 until around September of 2005, so Doonesbury probably did it first. But as you say, anything to spread the word.

[Tansy_Gold]

12. The date on the doonesbury version . . . .

is the beginning date for the list. They are the names of those lost SINCE 4/23/05, or roughly a year ago. I suspect Trudeau did something similar last year, using a similar date, and now is just carrying it forward.

[Dudley_DUright]

22. I know he did, which is why I was confused on the date

[sarge43]

9. With every life lost - a hope and a future unfulfilled

Ave atque vale miles.

[onehandle]

11. Again he panders to us who "waste our beautiful minds"

Just another of the "Hate America" crowd.

"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths," Barbara Bush said on ABC's "Good Morning America" on March 18, 2003. "Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"

[Sugar Smack]

13. For a lie.

For nothing but a lie.

[Gregorian]

14. It was many lies. The lies need their own memorial.

It was a multitude of lies and ommissions. From the president, to the media, to the Swift boat liars.

I feel that we need a memorial for all of those lies and the people who perpetrated them. Because it needs to be seen. And when the American people no longer believe the media, well, we've all seen The Wizard of Oz. The drapes reveal a lie. And then we can begin to return to the truth.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Indeed. Lies, lies, lies. NONE of them HAD to die. n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. *sigh* May they RIP.

I'm surprised they were allowed to rint that. Remember the flack Nightline got when it rolled the soldiers names and pics? This is a wonderful way to honor those who lost their lives.

So sad.

[dad]

17. Stupid and unoriginal idea

I have never liked Doonesbury. It is not funny or original, really.
My theory is that any DU thread with more recommendations than responses is guaranteed to be lame.

[supernova]

18. Wow, how fascinating

to put down a cartoon that has been holding up a provoking and thoughtful mirror to American life for over 30 years.

edit: It's entirely appropriate to name the casualties of this illegal, unnecessary war on Memorial Day.

[HeeBGBz]

20. Remembering the individual deaths of thousands is stupid?

My, aren't we critical this am.

[bedazzled]

21. do you ever think Doonesbury is funny?

it might make me smile -- in recognition of a truth - but it never seemed to me to be a "funny" comic strip

in any event, that one made me cry

[leesa]

23. Wow. Your theories are so valuable.

You are a father?

[Bouncy Ball]

24. Hey, dad, have you ever heard of MEMORIAL DAY?

Yeah, well, it's this day where we supposedly REMEMBER (memorial) those who have fallen in war. Thus, Memorial Day. Get it?

So for Doonesbury to print the names of those who have fallen, he's simply doing more than the usual sleep in, cook out, and hit the sales that most Americans do on that day. He's actually REMEMBERING them.

You have a problem with that? Seriously? What's your deal?

[The Witch]

27. ...

:popcorn:

[jollyreaper2112]

31. well

I used to think Doonsebury was an unfunny strip. That was when I was a kid. You know, back when Peanuts and Family Circus was funny. As those comics started to seem dull, Doonsebury started to make more sense. It's not a guffaw sort of humor. It may or may not be your cup of tea, no skin off anyone's nose if it isn't. But it is a good strip, an excellent strip. It's innovative and groundbreaking. As for the naming of the dead, I believe he's been doing that on each wartime Memorial Day.

[MountainLaurel]

19. Wonder if the Repukes are going to scream about this again

When Trudeau listed the names of the fallen last year, they were calling him a traitor to America who wasn't focused on the "good" we were doing in Iraq.

[Bouncy Ball]

25. You mean like someone already has on this thread?

[MountainLaurel]

33. Sigh.

Should have known.

[Cha]

26. Thank you,

Garry Trudeau for this very much needed observance!

[ladym55]

29. Each name is a life

But think about it. We need to read the names of these people--someone's child, someone's friend, someone's parent, someone's lover--each one taken too early--We need to read these names in the Comics section. Gary Trudeau needs to do this--because all of the warmongers who sent these men and women to their deaths can't be bothered. They don't care. Besides, if the people of the country actually begin to connect to the reality of all of these losses--and when we name something it becomes real--the people might begin to ask questions about what is going on. And we can't have THAT now, can we????

[Jeffersons Ghost]

32. Doonesbury is very cool to do this