Who Killed The Electric Car? (Trailer of Sundance Documentary)

[Terran1212]

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony/whokilledtheelectriccar/trailer/

Looks fascinating; I wish more people could see industry acting like this.

[iconoclastic cat]

1. Who makes Steve Gutenberg...a star? nt

[Terran1212]

2. ?

[Downtown Hound]

7. It's a Simpsons reference

The Stonecutters, an elite group of wealthy individuals that control everything. Just see the episode, it's one of the funniest things you'll ever see.

[3waygeek]

20. Here's the MP3

Give it a listen.

[The Revolution]

12. That was the first thing I thought of!

One of the all-time great episodes :)

[MelissaB]

3. I'd love to see this.

I saw the clip on a Prius forum. There's a guy there who's really into EV's. Thanks for posting this here! :hi:

[madokie]

4. My neighbor/friend has an EV he put together himself

can go 50 miles or so on less that 1.00 in fuel cost

[MelissaB]

5. That's amazing!

Is it a medium size car or small?

[madokie]

10. a little ole geo metro. but for he and his wife they get about 90%

of their mobile needs with it.

[me b zola]

13. Mr.Zola has been wanting to do that for the past 2 years

The transmission fell out of one of our metros (I don't know how he managed that) and ever since he has been wanting to make it electric. He has been researching different electric motors, but so far doesn't feel confindent enough to do it.

Do you think your friend would mind sharing ideas/tips with my DH?

[madokie]

14. I am sure he would love it, heck I know he would.

I'll bookmark and ask him and pm you as soon as I do. probably be tomorrow, like minds have a way of finding each other.

[me b zola]

15. Thanks, madokie. DH will be tickled pink 8>). n/t

[MelissaB]

6. Link to different media players

Scroll to bottom here: http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=12796

[Downtown Hound]

8. Awesome!

I'm glad this is finally getting some attention. I was pissed when GM destroyed all of their electric vehicles, and I always knew that the oil industry had something to do with it.

[MelissaB]

9. I'm recommending this so that people will know these things

actually exist (or did), and we may have them again soon.


Also here's a great thread at Prius Chat discussing EV's (and cool photos, too): http://priuschat.com/Thread-to-talk-about-EVs-t15103.html

[MelissaB]

11. Scion has plans for an electric car.

I think I read they are going to convert the xA and Xb.

Here's the xA:

and the boxy xB:

Anybody know anything more?

[ContraBass Black]

16. Why would they do that?

It makes more sense to release a hybrid xB.

[MelissaB]

19. A hybrid that you could plug in would be great

for me.

[ottomattic]

17. Nobody killed the electric car

The EV1 was dead at birth. It was the soloution to a problem
that doesn't exist.

The first rule of technology is "You never replace a
technology with an inferior technology. I can hear you all
gasp, "But EV technolgy is not inferior". 

Yes it is! The EV proponenets mistakenly assume people buy a
car to get from point A to point B.  The problem is people no
sooner buy a car to get from place to place, than women shop
at Fredricks of Hollywood because they need underwear.

The reason people buy a car is freedom, Freedom to go where
they want to go when they want to go there, Freedom to live
where they want to live. Any replacement to current automotive
technology that inhibits in any way those freedoms is destined
to fail. There is no reason to buy a car that you can't take
on a weekend trip to the country.

Asside from it's estimated $100,000 production cost, $10,000
30,000 mile battery replacement cost, The EV1 was just plain
stupid. 

It was a 2 seater. Who buys 2 seaters? Young single people.
People who don't usually have almost $40,000 for a car, but
who also get out and do things on the weekend. Plan your
saturday around an 80 mile envelope? For the price you could
have bought 4 geo metro's that got nearly 40mpg.

In addition, the 80 miles to a charge only applies if you live
in a warm climate. For those of us who have to shovel snow,
well you might get 40 or 50 in winter, (if you don't use heat
or lights) You see batteries don't put out as much energy when
cold. 

Then consider the ecological impact of 1175 lbs of lead used
to make the batteries.

It is estimated gasoline would have had to been over $6.00 a
gallon to make this car pratical. Then ask yourself why with
Gasoline at or around $6.00 in much of Europe why isn't
Europe leaping headlong towards EV technology?
Perhaps most likely the $6.00 gal price is a low estimate.

[MelissaB]

18. A lot of what you say here is incorrect.

If you looked at the link to the thread I posted above, much of that is explained. There are also pictures of EV's---yeah, even an SUV. I'm getting ready for work now, but will try to post more later.