Man sentence to die for killing a guy with an "A" on his hat. A=Antichrist

[maveric]

http://www.local6.com/news/6020822/detail.html

The guy is obviously mentally ill and the great state of Florida will execute him.

[chaplainM]

1. Talking bull?

Is there a connection to Rush Limbaugh?

[tocqueville]

2. plenty of talking bulls what I know of...

Pat Bullson, Jerry Bullwell, O'Bull...

[maveric]

4. He was found "menatally incompetent" to stand trial.

So the state gave him treatment to find him "competent" so that they can kill him?

Do you see anything wrong with this?

[Octafish]

3. Oh. Came to believe that "W" = Antichrist

What the hell you starin' at?

[sui generis]

5. argh

argh argh (sound of sui biting tongue)

do sane people commit murder? I am against the DP by the way, for the record, but I don't really understand the legal hair splitting behind insanity or mere extremes of "immorality" in murder.

Is there any difference? Killing someone in self-defense while being physically attacked aside, or accidentally killing someone while in a drunken stupor behind a wheel aside, is any other form of "murder" really what you can characterize as "sane"?

[davidinalameda]

6. I believe that some sane people do commit murder

there are people who come close to being the textbook definition of evil

[sui generis]

7. but philosophically speaking

at least, is that kind of "evil" really sane?

I just think that when we get down to the question of whether someone in a religious fervor is sane or not when they drown their kids I am blown away when a DA says Yates was sane and shouldn't qualify for an insanity defense.

It just made me think - to her kids at the last moment, she was textbook evil. To me she was textbook batshit.

Even someone who commits a crime of passion is like a walking time bomb. They may be "sane" until you just push the wrong button and all of a sudden they're out slashing up their wives and driving off in their white broncos.

I dunno - it all seems crazy to me :shrug:

[davidinalameda]

14. but then you have these hired killers

for the mafia or whatever

I don't seem them as crazy

I do see your point though--it's hard for the average person to imagine that someone can be considered sane when they take the life of another human

[0007]

8. In other words you believe that some people are not redeemable?

Is that correct?

[davidinalameda]

15. unfortunately yes

there are some people out there that will never respond to any sort of rehabilitation

[Solon]

9. Sure, most murders, after all, have a purpose, whether it is hate, greed..

envy or revenge. All of those are motives that have a sane purpose. The person in question usually knows what is right or wrong, and they simply don't care. Contrast that with murders that have, as far as anyone can tell, no purpose at all. People that are mentally ill, sometimes hallucinatory, other times just irrational in the extreme, are an example of this. If someone attacks another because they think of them as the devil, or sees them as a giant spider attacking them, is that on the same level as someone who kills for money?

[TruthStream_dot_org]

10. Or in the case of the son of the murdered...revenge

"I will feel closure when I watch his last breath, just like he forced us to watch my father's last breath," said James Hallman III.

So the justification in this case is revenge - he murdered my dad so I cant wait to watch him die too. Sure, he isn't doing the killing, but I promise he'd be more than happy to pull the switch if offered. Im at a loss as to why one is more justified than the other

[sui generis]

11. still, the willingness to take life

with or without motive is what I would characterize as insane.

Insanity (opinion) is when regardless of your level of understanding of right and wrong you choose that particular wrong anyway.

I guess understanding of "right and wrong" is a highly subjective measure anyway and seems a bit of a herring.

Conversely, a sociopath could have a perfect understanding of "right and wrong" in terms of "passing" with no innate understanding of it, and never murder anyone. Just look at Free Republic for lots of Free Examples.

I think when the DA says insane, they have this 19th century idea of gibbering slobbering people with their eyes rolled back in their head talking to hallucinations.

That would describe most anyone posting on a political blog most of the time. :evilgrin:

[Selatius]

12. Why are we executing the mentally handicapped?

Somebody tell me why is this sound policy?

[MadHound]

13. Gee, and twenty five years ago

Before Reagan began the cutting spree of mental health funding, this man could very well have been treated for his problems. But instead, thanks to Reagan, Bush and Bush, the mentally ill are allowed to roam the streets at large, inflicting death and harm on themselves and others.

Yup, the true face of compassionate conservatism:eyes:

[f-bush]

16. Question?

I thought the SCOTUS rules that you can't execute the mentally incompetent?