A resemblance that is a little too scary for me.

[El Supremo]

[BrklynLiberal]

1. Wow! That made me sick to my stomach.

:scared:

[Sanity Claws]

2. I think Himmler and Rove look alike

Randi Rhodes has talked about how so many men in the * administration look alike, kind of like Charlie Brown.

[dogday]

3. Mother Yucker

the resemblance makes me :puke:

[otherlander]

4. Have you ever read "Night"?

Just wondering. Because, really, reading an account of the systematic massacre that took place under the Nazis makes me think that the Bush- Hitler comparisons aren't really appropriate...

[Conker]

6. You mean the novel by Elie Wiesel?If so then I read that before.

[troubleinwinter]

13. It is a non-fiction autobiography.

[Kutjara]

7. I agree, although in fairness...

...it did take Hitler nearly a decade to get up to speed with his murderous schemes. BushCo have only had five years. Give them time.

[otherlander]

8. He's leaving in '08

But I guess that doesn't solve the problem, because then the American people will just elect someone else, and the back-room manipulators will seep in through some crack in the wall, and soon enough they'll get another puppet elected as the smiling face on the evil machine, a problem which will be 'solved' by unelecting the puppet....and so goes the cycle.

Damn, I guess it's easier to overthrow a dictatorship than it is to uproot corruption in a democracy, isn't it?

[Kutjara]

11. Yes it is.

With dictatorships, which are usually built on a cult of personality, toppling the dictator usually topples the system he created. Since the system is corrupt, destroying it is no great loss. In a poisoned democracy, however, the problem is trickier. Toppling the system is not necessarily a desirable outcome, but without eradicating the corruption root and branch, it will merely grow back when our backs are turned. Dubyah '04 will merely be replaced with Jeb '08 or some other mouthpiece, and the party will roll on.

So how do we destroy the corruption that has taken hold of American democracy without destroying America? How do we cure the cancer without killing the patient?

[marions ghost]

29. This is absolutely

the bottom line, the fundamental question, the job of reconstruction--to root out the corruption which supports the whole sick enchilada. The cancer has infected every level, every sphere. Who can argue otherwise?

In terms of mass psychology I think we are protecting this pathology, even if we don't directly participate in it. Without my writing a dissertation here...your point needs to be expanded--future books on "how they (the BFEE) did it" -- will be incomplete if they don't attack the disease at the core of our society. I don't have easy answers. Will the people who want to do the dirty work of fighting this culture of coruption please stand up? We need some really good thinkers and hardheaded solutions. Or yes, we are doomed to continually feed the monsters who would consume us. It's a sick cycle.

[Trish1168]

21. They are alike in every way except the genocide

We haven't reached that point (yet). When you look at how both Bush and Hitler worked to subvert a democratic system to turn it into a fascist totalitarian state, they are alike in every way. Germany had the Reichstag fire, we had 911. Hitler had the enabling act and Bush has signing statements. Halliburton is building a concentration camp now (never mind the empty military bases, which could already be used). These are not intended for immigrants (these guys LOVE the cheap labor). They are not intended for terrorists (remember when Bush said he doesn't know where Bin Laden is and he doesnt spend much time on him?).

I suspect they are for political enemies, which based on the last poll is two thirds of the country. And who knows how they'll choose who to cull from the heard in order to make the rest of us afraid to challenge them.

I think it is appropriate to compare them. History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes.

[crikkett]

28. halliburton's concentration camps

"And who knows how they'll choose who to cull from the heard in order to make the rest of us afraid to challenge them."

The reporters, to start, is my guess.

[atreides1]

27. History Lesson for you

Mass killings of over one million Jews occurred before the plans of the Final Solution were fully implemented in 1942, but it was only with the decision to eradicate the entire Jewish population that the extermination camps were built and industrialized mass slaughter of Jews began in earnest


From 1933, when the persecution of the Jews started, until 1942 there were no solid plans for the elimination of the Jews of Europe. That's nine years until the death camps were up and running full steam ahead. Do you really want to wait until a million or more people are dead before you think the comparisons are appropriate?

Not me, better to point out the small similarities now then to look at the mass graves later!!!!!

[RaleighNCDUer]

31. I'm less worried about that which did take place

than that which might yet take place when the theocracy has taken firm hold.

Americans always do everything bigger, better, more extravagently than anyone else. If the fascist/theocratic cabal holds on they have the potential to make the holocaust look like a Saturday night brawl.

They've been holding at 1936 for some time, now. The time to stop them is now, before they get to 1941.

[WinkyDink]

33. Yet.

[Conker]

5. I kept thinking Hayden looked like a Nazi.Now I know why I thought that.

It's a strange coincidence that both of their names start with H.

[knitter4democracy]

9. Whoa. Scary indeed.

Um. He shouldn't pose for pictures like that. It reveals too much.

[jrw14125]

10. also looks like Major Toht from Raiders of the Lost Ark

"Oh, I think the time for cooperation has long since passed..."

[n2doc]

34. My wife said the same thing

When she saw Hayden's pic for the first time, she said "OMG! He looks like that german guy in Raiders of the lost ark, one of the guys who gets fried at the end by the holy sprit!" Amazing how these things stick with you.

[goclark]

12. Where did they get all these Evil People?

Same DNA,absolutely.

[leftchick]

14. yes

and have you seen the Goering pearle photo comparison? It is amazing shit how they look like Nazis.

[GliderGuider]

15. How about this one?

[Obamarama]

18. OMG...they're ALL reincarnated into the Bush cabal eot

[Obamarama]

16. This falls under the category of "If we do not learn from history...

we are doomed to repeat it."

[Blue Belle]

17. Yikes!!

That's bone chilling. :scared:

[lonestarnot]

19. eeeeeeek! another freak!

[lildreamer316]

20. Ack!

eesh! That IS a bit troubling.

[lala_rawraw]

22. well he never did know who is father was, the real one

so nothing would suprise me

[newswolf56]

23. There is an occult theory that evil reincarnates opportunistically:

finding the greatest opportunity in the greatest chaos. This is the reason, according to this theory, for the historical phenomenon of clusters of evil personalities -- for example the Hitler Regime (all those evil personalities born at approximately the same time in the same nation). Thus while Hayden's birthday (March 17, 1945) suggests he is NOT the reincarnation of Himmler -- Himmler lived on until May 1945 -- Hayden may well be the reincarnation of one of Himmler's close and admiring colleagues, hence the physical resemblance.

Mind you, this is just a theory: not one to which I necessarily subscribe, but certainly illustrative of how non-Abrahamic principles explain a phenomenon of history that remains utterly inexplicable under analysis based on Abrahamic (Jewish/Christian/Islamic) doctrines or supposedly "secular" doctrines derived therefrom. Note too the thoroughly documented fact of the Republican leadership's grotesque admiration of Nazis and Nazidom -- an admiration first exposed in the aftermath of the original Watergate episode.

(Linguistic point: one of the psycholinguistic pitfalls of which we desperately need to beware is how calling Watergate or anything like it a "scandal" implies that such tyranny is abnormal. Use of the term "scandal" in such a context is a built-in semantic Big Lie intended to hide the fact that the outrages of Watergate, Enron, NSA spying, racially genocidal neglect in New Orleans and on the Gulf Coast etc. are not aberrations at all but rather the norms under capitalism. All that is changing -- the reason the outrages are becoming so commonplace -- is that the corporate ruling class is simply ever more confident of its omnipotence.)

[NJCher]

26. they're baaaa-aaacck

Newsjock, a most excellent post. Much to think about there.




Cher

[Random_Australian]

24. Wrong profile. No relation. Similarity in how they are perceived by Time

accounts for similarity in potrayal. NB similarity does not imply congruency.

[roguevalley]

25. I posted these two in pictures the other day and no one said they

saw the resemblance but it bugged me until I googled himmler. they look the same. desk pushers killing people and hope with the stroke of their pencils but being soft and weak and utterly cowardly, too cowardly to do anything personally themselves.

[mdmc]

30. thanks for the juxtaposition

[marions ghost]

32. self-replicating

one dies, another is born. Architects of Evil tend to resemble.

Thanks for the (ouch) reminder...