Freepers declare fatwa on Dan Brown for "DaVinci".....

[liberaliraqvet26]

They are no different than the Iranian mullahs, these people are so sick it is entertaining.

To: MadIvan
Most Da Vinci Code readers believe Jesus fathered a child, poll finds!
Fools, it is idiotic claptrap and is to be avoided!


9 posted on 05/17/2006 2:42:00 AM PDT by VOYAGER
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To: MadIvan
OK, that's it.
I now declare a fatwa on Dan Brown. This is a special fatwa, a christian one. Since killing is bad and all that, and you can leave forgiving until a few days before death, I say everyone trow their dog crap on his lawn, tag his house, spike his car tires at least once a week. Seduce his wife, (take pics) and just make his life so missurable he'll wish he was dead.


10 posted on 05/17/2006 2:42:05 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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[Bluebear]

1. 'just make his life so MISSURABLE he'll wish he was dead.'

TRUTH BE DEMAND!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

[Dr.Phool]

41. So, they're going to send him to Missouriable?

[Arugula Latte]

54. OMG! They're going to be STOCKING him!!11!1!!

:rofl:

Ah, the Freeps. Their "spellings" are an endless source of amusement here at DU.

Thanks, Dumbass Freeps! :hi:

[smartvoter]

76. LOL -- literally. nt

[Occulus]

55. Ah, the latest Freeper example of what happens when people learn

how to read from phonics rather than actual reading.

Pathetic.

[Bluebear]

2. "This is a special fatwa, a christian one."

:crazy:

[flobee1]

3. Repugs are so classy

:sarcasm:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. Jesus, it's bloody fiction - just like their bible.

these people are truly delusional.

[Random_Australian]

8. *gasp* that is anti-christian bigotry driving potential converts from the

party!

"OH NO!"


:):):):D

:nopity:

[LWolf]

18. I started to ask,

"What part of FICTION do these people not get?"

Then I remembered my middle schoolers. In this small, rural, fundie area, they come to middle school asking, "What is fiction again? It's factual, right?"

They've already spent their lifetimes with fiction presented as fact; no wonder they can't tell the difference.

[darkmaestro019]

20. That's what I'm screaming. (sigh)

MOOOOM! They made up a story that contradicts my made-up story! Make them stoooop! :cry:

(eyeroll)

[Clark2008]

5. Seduce his wife?

Like SHE has no control over who she sleeps with? People can attempt to seduce anyone, but that doesn't mean it will work.

Does this jerk mean, "rape" his wife?

God, what malicious asswipes.

[Bluebear]

6. And 'take pics'...........psychopaths. nt

[YOY]

13. So...Killing is out of the picture

but Adultery is juuuuuust fine! Way to pick your commandments, Mr. "Christian"!

I don't think destruction of property is in the 10 commandments (although Charlton Heston surely has had something to say about it...but his version might have Mr. Brown peppering the freeps with buckshot like Dick Cheney in a petstore on a vodka binge)

[Tesha]

57. "Though shalt not blow the s**t out of thy neighbours' goods."

> I don't think destruction of property is in the 10 commandments...

It was on the tablet that Mel Brooks dropped in "History of the
World, Part I":

XI: "Though shalt not blow the s**t out of thy
neighbours' goods."

Also included on that tablet:

XII: "Don't be a dick."

XIII: "Ignorance, even in my name, is bad."

XIV: "The poor are just as human as you."

XV: "Feed the hungry, heal the sick, and educate
the children truthfully."

And yes, they were Roman numerals. (Why should that
make any more sense than the rest of it?)


Tesha

[Coventina]

44. This, from the "family values" crowd!

:eyes:

Oh yeah, they apparently like porn as well: "Take pictures"

:puke:

[Bill McBlueState]

59. hey, if this guy showed up to seduce you

Would you be able to resist?

[Gman]

7. "Missurable"

What a Moran.

[Tesha]

58. "Hooked on Fonix", can't afford rehab. (NT)

[Random_Australian]

9. Wow! Dan Brown must be an evil person! He is! I heard he trows (suc)

dog crap on lawns, tags houses, vandalises other peoples property, and I'm sorry but the prospect of a FReeper trying to be seductive has evoked gales of laughter.

Can you imagine? "Hi there, what's happening pretty lady... I'm a FReeper, wanna sleep with me?"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Neecy]

43. *giggle*

Can you imagine? "Hi there, what's happening pretty lady... I'm a FReeper, wanna sleep with me?"

And we've all seen what most of them look like from seeing footage of their pathetic pro-war demos...my god, I'd run like the wind if one of them hit on me. Gross.

[shaniqua6392]

10. All this controversy has achieved one thing for me.

I REALLY want to see this movie now. As a matter of fact, I am going to take the whole family and some friends and we are going to see it as soon as it comes out. I am a Christian. This is a movie based on a fiction novel. What the hell is wrong with these people? One thing is for sure. They are NOT Christian.

[southernleftylady]

11. I guess they have nothing better to do?

[Ian David]

12. Didn't FR post the Mohamed cartoons? What about "Market Forces"?

I'm going to buy TWO tickets to see The Da Vinci Code: One for me, and one for The Prophet Elijah.

If you see the movie, buy an extra ticket!

[marmar]

16. It was funny when Muslims were the target of scorn....

But now they're insulting Christians?!? The injustice of it all!

:cry: :cry: :cry:

Freepers are a psychotic bunch.

[Ian David]

19. The Catholic "church" has survived Galileo and Darwin and Martin Luther..

but now they're no match for Opie!

[marmar]

21. LOL...

Opie, Forrest Gump and Amelie!

[Bridget Burke]

51. The excerpt refers to "christian"....

That sort of Christian does not regard Catholics as Christians.

[Minnesota_Lib]

25. My thought exactly. They love free speech, don't they. (more)

The following is a list of examples of Christian outrage over free of speech (apparently they are hold no such outrage when the religions of others are blasphemed) courtesy of Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_versus_blasphemy

I suggest they add the following entry to those listed below:

#In 2006, members of the Free Republic, a website that gleefully posted--in the name of free speech--Dutch cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad that incensed and insulted Islamic fundamentalists worldwide, declared a Christian “fatwa” on Dan Brown, author of the best-selling book The Da Vinci Code. While not calling for death, they recommended a lifelong terror campaign against Brown and his family that included vandalizing his property and raping his wife because Brown had suggested in his fictional work that Jesus had married.
_______________________________________________

Freedom of speech versus blasphemy

# The Christmas 1882 edition of The Freethinker included several antireligion cartoons; because of these, an indictment for "blasphemous libel" was brought against G.W. Foote, its editor, and William Ramsay, its manager. (Reg. v. Ramsay and Foote) The cartoons were rebuked by various Christian individuals: John Jackson, the bishop of London, called the publication "vile" and supported the prosecution; Anglican clergyman Stewart Headlam, on the other hand, agreed that the Freethinker was "disgusting," but defended Foote's freedom of expression. Headlam argued that "the more you prosecute, the stronger you make the cause which you cannot imprison."<1> In the end, Foote was sentenced to 12 months imprisonment with hard labour.

# In 1951, Italian neorealist Roberto Rossellini's 40-minute film, titled The Miracle, sparked widespread moral outrage.<2> The film centred around a man, "Saint Joseph", who villainously impregnates "Nanni", a disturbed peasant who believes herself to be the Virgin Mary. Protesters in Paris picketed the film with vitriolic signs carrying messages like "This Picture Is an Insult to Every Decent Woman and Her Mother," "Don't Be a Communist," and "Don't Enter the Cesspool." <3> It was criticized as "vile, harmful and blasphemous." After some pressure by the Catholic Church, the New York Board of Regents revoked the film's license on grounds that it was "sacrilegious." Its director, Joseph Burstyn, subsequently appealed the decision, and in 1952 it was overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court as unconstitutional in the case Joseph Burstyn, Inc v. Wilson. <4>

# In 1966, Dutch author Gerard Reve was prosecuted for blasphemy, after a piece of prose he wrote described making love to God, incarnated in a three year old donkey. He was later acquitted on the grounds that this was an artistic expression protected by freedom of speech.

# Hollywood movies depicting Jesus or referencing early Christianity in a non-mainstream way sometimes attract immense controversy and public outcries. As the controversies often arose in the film's country of origin, consulates and embassies have for the most part been left alone. Movies subjected to heavy criticism over allegedly blasphemous content include The Last Temptation of Christ and Monty Python's Life of Brian (which was banned in Ireland and Norway, and advertised in Sweden as "the movie that is so funny it was banned in Norway".)

# Artist Andres Serrano's photograph Piss Christ, showing a crucifix immersed in urine, caused similar controversy, as did artist Chris Ofili's painting "Black Madonna," which depicted a black African Mary surrounded by images from blaxploitation movies and close-ups of female genitalia cut from pornographic magazines.

# A British evangelical organisation, Christian Voice led street protests against the BBC screening of Jerry Springer – The Opera, in which Jesus wearing a nappy says "I'm a bit gay". Christian Voice published the home addresses and telephone numbers of several BBC executives on their web site. This led to one of these people receiving death threats. Another organisation, the Christian Institute attempted to level blasphemy charges against the BBC. These were rejected by the High Court.

# The comedy film Dogma (1999) resulted in picketing and charges of blasphemy, but also death threats made against its director Kevin Smith and producers Bob and Harvey Weinstein.

# In 2002, the author of the Spanish public domain personal computer game Slaughter Cofrade, known by the initials "J. C. C. S.," was formally accused by the Cristo del Gran Poder of violating section 525 of the penal code, which forbids any sort of "attack" on religious dogma, beliefs, or ceremonies. His game depicted the shooting of characters robed in religious clothing and carrying Christian crosses.

# In 2005 Marithé and François Girbaud's parodied da Vinci's religious painting The Last Supper in a publicity poster. The Catholic high clergy initiated a controversial lawsuit against the Girbauds, sparking a polemic concerning freedom of expression and blasphemy. The judge qualified the poster as "an insult to Christians."

# Gerhard Haderer's cartoon book The Life of Jesus was banned in Greece in 2003 under Greek laws of "blasphemy" and "insulting religion". In 2005 its author was given a six-month suspended prison sentence in absentia. Both the ban and the conviction were later reversed in appeal after an outcry against the initial decision both in Greece and in Europe

[liberaliraqvet26]

14. I can't wait to see it too....

when the church denounces a movie that usually means its gonna be good!!

[DoYouEverWonder]

15. The RC church always banned

the best pictures.

You can't pay for publicity like this.

[Ian David]

23. Remember Passion of the Christ? Payback's a bitch, Catholic "church."

And from what I understand, this movie/book isn't even "Anti-Catholic."

There's nothing in it that might make people say, "Damn Catholics murdered the Albino! Death to the Albino Killers!"

All it does is contradict some of their dogmas and invisible-man-in-the-sky myths.

So WHAT?

Not like it's a cartoon of Jesus with a bomb in his big, Jewish beard.

Anyway, let them get all worked-up about it. It'll distract them from gay marriage.

And unfortunately, gay marriage distracts them from protecting their immigrant constituents.

People who claim to be "religious" are easily distracted from anything that comes between them and their latest god-fix.

[DoYouEverWonder]

24. Makes you wonder why they are making such a fuss

doing everything they can to discredit the movie?

I guess they don't want people looking too closely at the life of Jesus. Their NT version doesn't hold up very well under scrutiny either.

[Occulus]

56. I have one question

What happened during the part of the Bible that doesn't talk about his life? Doesn't he go from like a little kis to his 30s with nothing much in between, as it's written there?

Hey, church- how about you tell us about all that, hmmmm?

[tanyev]

29. Funny thing is, the efforts to ban it just reinforce the major theme of

the novel--that the Catholic Church suppresses dissent that threatens their authority. Methinks they doth protest too much.

[Bridget Burke]

53. I don't regard Freerepublic as an official arm of the Catholic Church.

I've heard some angry words from a Cardinal, but most church officials just want to use the movie as a springboard for discussion. They believe it does NOT tell the whole story. No boycotts or banning have been announced.

Yes, it's fiction. But some who read the book seem to swallow the whole thing as truth.

[tanyev]

74. Sorry, I was referring to efforts in other countries to get it banned.

In South Korea, which has 13 million Protestants and 4.6 million Roman Catholics, a court ruled Tuesday that a Christian group's request for an injunction to block screenings lacked merit. The Christian Council of Korea, an umbrella group of 63 South Korean Protestant denominations, said it respected the ruling but would lead a boycott of the movie, which it said defiles the sanctity of Jesus Christ and distorts facts, AP reported.

In mostly Hindu India, which is also home to 18 million Roman Catholics, Joseph Dias, head of the Catholic Secular Forum, began a hunger strike in downtown Mumbai and said other people were joining him. "We want the movie to be banned," he said.

In Thailand, Columbia Pictures has appealed a ruling by government censors to cut the final 10 minutes of "The Da Vinci Code," police said, after Thai church leaders complained the film's content was insulting.

Philippine censors approved an adult rating for the movie but stopped short of rating it "X" because "it does not constitute a clear, express or direct attack on the Catholic church or religion" and does not libel or defame any person.

The National Council of Churches in Singapore, which also had requested a ban, planned lectures to refute aspects of the film and the book on which it is based. The censorship board gave the movie an NC16 rating, barring viewers under 16, arguing that "only a mature audience will be able to discern and differentiate between fact and fiction."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/17/da.vinci/index.html

[Tesha]

62. Actually, the BBC says it's "Boring". (NT)

Most of the reviews seem negative, and not for
political reasons. But we'll probably go see it
anyway, "having read the book".

Tesha

[Jacobin]

17. So now, Brown is Salmon Rushdie(sp)?

Freeper Taliban are going to go after a guy for writing a fricking book of fiction about a religious cult?

[tlsmith1963]

22. Geez, the Book is *Fiction*!

Oh, well--the Fundies think witches & wizards are real, too (Harry Potter). Yeah, can't have our kids casting spells! Gotta get rid of Harry Potter!:rofl:

Tammy

[Democrat 4 Ever]

27. I have visions of the freepers congregating en masse outside

Dan Brown's house - two people ("moran" guy and the old hag wearing a purple band aid) with four port-a-potties and a bull horn. Their fatwa would consist of Moran Guy trying to seduce Brown's wife (yeah, that's gonna happen!) and the triple-chinned beeotch smiling for the camera while sticking purple band aids all over her ample body. Afterward they could go back to Freeperville to post their "conquests and declare victory in getting The De Vinci Code banned world wide (they live in weirdo parallel universe world where truth fears to tread). The port-a-potty ratio is necessary because these people are so full of sh*t.

[Gato Moteado]

40. i almost coughed my ice cream bar through my nose.......

....when i read your post.

i'm not sure if i was laughing or crying when i thought of the image of that dumb fat white trash freeper sticking the purple heart bandages all over her "ample body". the thought of any freeper's body is repulsive, but that hideous lady is creature feature material.

[Union Thug]

32. Fiction yes, but many of the ideas were taken from

Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln's Holy Blood, Holy Grail, which was a serious reinterpretation of historical evidence about the life of Christ and questions the primary tenets of the church. Conspiracy.. perhaps, but an intriguing read as I recall (been many years since I read it)

[Tansy_Gold]

45. Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln may have been

serious, but there are some fabrications in HB, HG, too, iirc.

Someone needs to put together an Annotated Da Vinci Code, showing all the historical and pseudo-historical background, the flubs, the thefts from other sources, etc. THAT would be a fun read.


Tansy Gold, thinkin' 'bout it. . . . .

[Union Thug]

50. What it comes down to is this...

Pick a fiction and believe in it. For me, the whole religious thing is a joke anyway. I don't buy the big daddy in the sky nonsense, or the dead guy on a stick death cult. In my opinion, it's all childish fantasy.

The only ones who come close to my personal views are the Zen Buddhists, but they've been accused of being the anti-religion religion. :-)

[The Stranger]

67. About as much "fiction" as the Bible.

Based on documents from the same period, except the early Church "fathers" decided what was in, what was out of their "Bible" by taking a vote.

It is about as much truth or fiction as an arbitrary vote.

[RaleighNCDUer]

70. No outright fabrications, that I recall,

but a number of unsupported leaps, bridging some pretty serious historical gaps. If you accept the premise of those leaps, it hangs together pretty well, but they're still just guessing.

It is, however, far more logical and supportable than the official version of history, which the RC church has spent the past 1700 years re-writing.

[Che_Nuevara]

26. To lend some credit here,

there are many historians who believe that, if there really was a person about whom the gospels are written (whether he produced miracles or he was just really popular and his reputation got bent out of shape), being that he was a rabbi, he probably did father children. Possibly with Mary Magdeline. It's really not that far a stretch.

[Ian David]

28. Unless he was gay, perhaps... hmmm....

WAS / IS YESHUA OF NAZARETH (JESUS CHRIST) GAY?

Overview:

We recognize that the title to this essay will be seen by many readers as rather inflammatory. Australian educator, Michael Kelly wrote: "The question is, apparently, provocative....even asking the question is sacrilege, blasphemy, a vilification of Christianity, and a mockery of people's deepest beliefs." 1 Many Christians find it difficult to wrap their minds around the concept of Jesus having been sexually active. The thoughts that he might have been gay are even more difficult to handle.

There is nothing in the Christian Scriptures (New Testament) which specifically identifies Jesus' sexual orientation. The Bible does not say clearly whether Jesus had a heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual orientation. It is silent on whether Jesus was celibate or sexually active; single or married. 2 However, a few theologians have asserted that Jesus had, and presumably still has, a homosexual orientation.

As is our custom, we explain all sides to the issue.

More:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jegay.htm

[Che_Nuevara]

33. It's a theoretical possibility

in the same way that it's possible that any historical person was gay.

The Biblical 'evidence' for it is so weak, however, that anyone with a working knowledge of Bible studies can rip a whole in it the size of a truck.

[Occulus]

61. I asked above, and I think I'll ask you personally this

What actually is said about Jesus in his 20s, and before the crucifixion? What do we know "for certain"?

I've never heard this discussed in detail, and to my knowledge, nobody knows. Is there any information about that- well, anywhere?

[Che_Nuevara]

63. Um, actually, yes.

The gnostic gospels.

[Avalux]

30. Insanity. The book/movie is FICTION.

Why are these people so worried about it, unless their own faith is so easily shaken by a book that questions the life of Jesus.

[The Stranger]

68. They're worried because the book they believe in is fiction as well.

[Union Thug]

31. Better go after the authors of Holy Blood, Holy Grail, too..

as their book provides the foundation for Brown's - and is well researched, well referenced, and makes the Vatican and other xtian groups come unhinged whenever it's heretical name is uttered in public.. :-)

Freepers are typical of the scared into religion crowd. They are so unconvinced of their own faith that they need to gather in groups to reinforce eachothers belief in fairytales, and would happily join a modern inquisition to eliminate those that expose their nonsense for what it is.

[Bridget Burke]

52. HBHG is too "hard" for these miserable morans.

Long words, etc. Not that I think it's "true"--but I found it interesting intellectual enterainment.

[Coyote_Bandit]

34. Funny thing - what you don't hear

is a recognition that this little piece of *fiction* rests almost entirely on the assumption that the church is deceptive, manipulative and suppresses dissent.

[RaleighNCDUer]

71. Which, of course, it never has done.

:sarcasm:

[Ilsa]

35. Admittedly, they have "low expectations" of most Christians.

They must figure that most Christians are koolaid-drinkers and don't know the difference between fiction and nonfiction. And apparently some of them don't.

[MadHound]

36. Sad how many people are so very threatened by a fictional book.

Makes me wonder how strong their faith truly is if they feel the need to go to these sorts of lengths to suppress a fictional book.

And I'm absolutely astonished at the lengths to which both television and churches are going to in order to prove that a fictional book is, well, fiction. Every night this week at least one of the "educational channels", History Channel, Discovery, etc, is broadcasting at least one program to this end. Meanwhile in hundreds and thousands of churches nationwide, special sermons are being preached, classes and seminars are being given, all to prove that a fictional book is indeed fiction.

Is their faith that weak? Or has Brown hit a nerve? I'm quickly getting to the point where I think these people doth protesteth too much.

[Tansy_Gold]

47. I'm not sure tv is trying to disprove Da Vinci Code so much

as they're trying to cash in on the movie's upcoming release.

Ya think?

[MadHound]

48. Could very well be

But after three nights of flipping through a variety of these shows, none of them are taking a stance or an angle other than proving for the umpteenth time that the DaVinci Code is indeed fiction:shrug:

I'm sure that part of their motivation is indeed to cash in on the DVC, but damn, you think that they would at least be original and have some other angle than endlessly proving that the DVC is fiction:shrug:

As for the churches go, as I said, I think that they are protesting too much.

[OnionPatch]

37. Seduce his wife?

:rofl: I've seen pics of the freepers at their little get-togethers......They're going to have to hire someone else to hit on Dan's wife for them. :rofl:

That aside, who gives a flying, fu*&$^%$#, rat's ass whether Jesus fathered a child, was gay or anything else. What matters are his teachings. Too bad, being typical right-wingers, they love everything about Jesus but his teachings.

[enigma000]

38. Pope Nathan Zachary ?

You mean Nathan Zachary is the Pope? I thought it was the other guy.

[Saphire]

39. well, as long as its "Christiian" dog crap they trow......

[spanone]

42. Jesus would be ashamed.

[KingFlorez]

46. Seduce his wife?

These people are out of their minds! And fat, nose picking, bad spelling and dumb Freepers can't seduce anyone.

[AlCzervik]

49. they'll have to hire that out.

[Initech]

60. The stupidity surrounding the Da Vinci Code is unbelievable.

I mean really, it's a FICTIONAL (underline and point some fingers with a big exclamation fucking point) book.

[pdxmom]

64. This just proves that Freeps can't read and only learn through

pictures. This book has been out there for 3 years and it isn't until it's put into movie form that they feel they need a fatwa. It also proves that they think movies are real.

Psst! Mr. Freeper? You're stupidity is showing.

[RaleighNCDUer]

72. And it's not as if it is even a hard read.

Actually, though I like the premise, I thought the book was a bit of a pot-boiler, not all that well written for a super-mega-bestseller. I guess even that is above the freeper level of reading comprehension.

[insane_cratic_gal]

65. Freepers really need to push for Spell checker

during their next support Jim's lifestyle fundraiser.

[gatorboy]

66. Gee, and it took them––what? 3 years?

I guess it just goes to show: Freepers can't read. They just wait for the purty pictures....

[insane_cratic_gal]

69. Holy Blood Holy Grail, which Brown used and abused for his story

was written in 1982.

Maybe if we had started no freeper left behind back when Regan was in office, hmm makes you wonder doesn't it?

[gatorboy]

75. There were a few other storylines created that used the theme as well.

A comic book series titled PREACHER (Very good series) also used the same idea way before Brown did in his book (Which I honestly didn't think was that good-thriller wise. The setup is almost exactly the same as Angels & Demons).

[Bluebear]

73. What a noble jester!!!!!1111

[lies and propaganda]

77. seduce his wife- how VERY christian

what hypocritical morans.