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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:01 PM
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Brit Hume: *'s number's might be bad, but Kerry's and Clinton's....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,195332,00.html

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Negative Numbers

A new Harris poll puts the president's job approval rating at 29 percent, the lowest number of his presidency. The low approval caps a week of negative polls for the president, but the numbers look just as bad, if not worse, for some prominent Democrats.

While a New York Times poll released earlier this week found that 31 percent of Americans approve of the president, just 26 percent hold a favorable view of 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, while 38 percent have an unfavorable opinion. And 34 percent of Americans have a favorable opinion of New York Senator Hillary Clinton, compared to 35 percent who view her unfavorably.




Nice try Brit, nice try :-)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:02 PM
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1. But Bill's numbers are now better than Dubya's!
:rofl:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:03 PM
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2. I wasn't aware that Kerry and/or Clinton were currently in the WH
and were currently in charge of US domestic and foreign policy.


News to me!

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:04 PM
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4. Me, too. They must've slipped in the back door when no one
was looking.

Those evil liberal devils!
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:04 PM
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3. There's also a huge difference between job approval and general favorable.
Edited on Fri May-12-06 09:05 PM by dave123williams

Plus, it's Brit Hume, so assume it's a fucking lie.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:48 PM
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30. Also, there's a difference in HOW MUCH we disapprove.
I wish I could have made that clear to the Gallup pollster who called me yesterday.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:05 PM
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5. Well, there's a point to that: the republicans smear opposition.
Bush was well on his way to unpopularity in 2004, and wasn't all that liked in 2000, but his slime machine and right wing media were able to drive up the negatives of his opponents.

People have to realize that a 2% approval rating doesn't mean the republicans lose, if the campaigns suck and the dems get swiftboated.....and are not supported by people who should be their supporters, eg, the fifty or sixty "I'm outta here" and "I'll never vote for" threads that appear here every day.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:06 PM
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6. Who cares? They are not
the monkey resident of the USA.
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:57 PM
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18. These are still terrible numbers for Hillary and Kerry
given that their name id is pretty high.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:08 PM
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21. Note that Gore, Hillary and Kerry
have 33%, 30%, and 36% respectively for (don't know, no response). This may reflect Democrats who likely might not be negative on the individual, but prefer another Democrat. (How would you answer the question for a Democrat who is not your favorite. The problem is the question has no real way to reflect I'm ok with A, but I want B to be the President.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:08 PM
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7. I'm surprised he didn't
bring up Bin laden's numbers as a contrast! What a complete and utter tool that man is. Faux's #1 pompous windbag is showing his desperation. Not pretty.

:hide:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:16 PM
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8. Yip, his son suicided prolly 'cause his Dad couldn't relate to him n/t
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:17 PM
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9. Snow Job Is So . . . . . . Yesterday (nt)
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:33 PM
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10. "Unfavorable Kerry " vs "Bush Disapproval"
The 38% "unfavorable" opinion of Kerry is much lower than Bush's "Disapproval" which most polls show to be in the 60's. It's desperate, pathetic, easily dismissed spin of the numbers.

Not many people in Washington have high approval ratings these days, but when you look at the "Disapproval" ratings and especially the "Strongly Disapprove" numbers one thing stands out: We're sick of GOP corruption and their lapdogs.

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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:34 PM
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11. I take it that he didn't mention Bush's unfavorability ratings. It
appears from doing the math on Kerry's and Clinton's numbers that they must have had quite a few undecided entries. There are very few people who are undecided about Bush.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:50 PM
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15. Numbers
Bush Approval 29 Disapproval 55 Total Undecided* 17
Cheney Approval 20 Disapproval 49 Total Undecided 31
H Clinton Approval 34 Disapproval 35 Total Undecided 33
McCain Approval 31 Disapproval 15 Total Undecided 54
Kerry Approval 26 Disapproval 38 Total Undecided 35
Gore Approval 28 Disapproval 39 Total Undecided 33

*'Undecided' includes 'undecided', 'haven't heard enough' and 'refused'.


http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20060509_POLL_RESULTS.pdf
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:38 PM
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12. the last i read is that bush can`t run again...
and i doubt kerry or clinton will win the democratic nomination. oh shit i forgot it was fox
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:47 PM
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13. I've never understood how fools like Hume can consider Clinton
Edited on Fri May-12-06 09:48 PM by Marr
to be at once the definition of bad government *and* the standard for acceptable behavior. I simply don't understand it- how can you say, on the one hand, "Clinton was terrible! Kerry is terrible!" and on the other hand, "it's ok- after all, Clinton did it, too".

Is he really that stupid? Or does he just assume that his audience is?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:47 PM
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14. Even if this weren't utter bullshit, it still would be desperate
"Well, he's doing better than John Kerry" is the worst cop-out ever.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:50 PM
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16. They've finally found us out
Kerry, Clinton and a few other Democrats in the Senate have been really controlling the country the last 2 years with the massive power of the threat of filibuster... that is the real reason things are so bad! Those folks at Fox are so sharp to figure it all out.

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:56 PM
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17. Brit the Liar Hume - he lies and Freepes lick it up
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 09:58 PM
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19. Yeah, but Brit- Kerry's not the President.
You see, that's why his national favorability ratings don't matter.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:02 PM
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20. Brit's right in that none of the three are worthy of national leadership.
They should poll for Gore and see what the result is. Frankly, he's the only truly Presidential person going today.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:14 PM
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22. see post #15 n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:16 PM
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23. They did poll Gore his numbers were:
Favorable 28
Unfavorable 39
Other (don't know, refused, etc) 33

I suspect the large other for the 3 Democrats reflects a bit of game playing where people want to favor their favorite over the other Democrats.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:07 AM
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31. I can't believe Hillary polls higher than Gore...
there's a manipulationg going on... the GOP *really* wants Dems to nominate someone they really don't want.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:19 PM
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24. And who took the poll again, Brit?
I am just not familiar with previous polls conducted by the "Blow Out Your Ass" polling company.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:24 PM
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25. Dems are winning by 15 pts
In a poll I saw the other day.

But what else can he say. I mean cmon. They got themselves a real loser and it hurts real bad.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:34 PM
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28. The negatives here agree with that poll
Bush (55)

Clinton (35)
Kerry (38)
Gore(39)

For Kerry and Gore, I would say that these awful numbers are redeemed by the fact that after mostly negative press for them and 5 years of positive press for Hillary - the negatives are so close.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:25 PM
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26. Stop it Brit! You're killing me....cough cough
Talk about a "Yeah But" guy...
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:26 PM
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27. I find the Democratic polling #s hard to believe.
Really kind of non-sensical. Kerry's approvals less than Bush? Ain't buying it.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-12-06 10:46 PM
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29. Me either. n/t
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