There are ZERO Democrats who took Abramoff money.

[flyarm]

lets stop this myth in its tracks...we must send this to every media..and everyone we know..and stop this before this b.s. takes hold!!
fly

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/28/1655/0100

Tue Dec 27, 2005

Just take a look at his listed donations on Open Secrets
here:
http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?NumOfThou=0&txtName=abramoff&txtState=DC&txtZip=&txtEmploy=&txtCand=&txt2000=Y&txt1998=Y&Order=N

and here:

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?txtName=abramoff&txtState=DC&txtZip=&txtEmploy=&txtCand=&txt2006=Y&txt2004=Y&txt2002=Y&txt2000=&txt1998=&txt1996=&txt1994=&txt1992=&txt1990=&txtSoft=N&Order=N&Cycles=3&Cycle1=2006&Cycle2=2004&Cycle3=2002&Page=1

snip:

There isn't a Democrat on the list.

It is true that some employees of the large lobbying firms he worked at and some of his clients gave to Democrats as well the GOP. These are the Abramoff-connected donations that we read about in the press. They are always separated from Jack by two or more degrees and most often the connection is a single thread.

The same is not true for the GOP.


snip:
The GOP Talking Points are out: Everybody does it and Abramoff gave equally to both parties. Hell, even George W. Bush himself has been trained to repeat them, but Bloomberg (and many others) have looked at the facts:


U.S. President George W. Bush calls indicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff ``an equal money dispenser'' who helped politicians of both parties Campaign donation records show Republicans were a lot more equal than Democrats.

Between 2001 and 2004, Abramoff gave more than $127,000 to Republican candidates and committees and nothing to Democrats, federal records show. At the same time, his Indian clients were the only ones among the top 10 tribal donors in the U.S. to donate more money to Republicans than Democrats.

Between 2001 and 2004, Abramoff joined with his former partner, Michael Scanlon, and tribal clients to give money to a third of the members of Congress, including former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, according to records of the Federal Election Commission and Internal Revenue Service. At least 171 lawmakers got $1.4 million in campaign donations from the group. Republicans took in most of the money, with 110 lawmakers getting $942,275, or 66 percent of the total.


please pass around and write to the media at once!!
thanks fly

[shenmue]

1. Good.

Glad to hear the truth.

:7

[fooj]

2. Just read that! Woo hoo! What a relief...

:toast: Happy New Year!

Peace.

[AtomicKitten]

45. happy, happy, joy, joy n/t

[bigtree]

3. sweet

[stop the bleeding]

4. Hammer these liars - period

enough is enough!!!

[Botany]

5. Not true ......

.... President Bush said to Gibson on Fox that the $ went equally to both parties. I hate to
think that he is lying or got bad intel. Why, that would be shocking.

Signed,
Concerned in Columbus.

[fooj]

7. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Peace.

[Rosco T.]

6. noted..

need this to shove down a freepers beak

[Al-CIAda]

8. This can't be true. Mattews said it was a bipartisan scandal.

He repeated this 'fact' over and over. Chrissy wouldn't lie, now would he?

[Botany]

10. No way!

he is part of the liberal media too.

[Botany]

11. Dupe

[FreedomAngel82]

17. Oh no

The nice man on the teevee is lying to me? *gasps* Whatever am I to do now? :sarcasm: I think this makes it more sweeter since he said he was going to sing. :D I can't wait!

[LeftNYC]

9. Funny how Bush's contribution came from

Pamela Abramoff, homemaker. I am assuming this is his wife?

Correction Abramoff did give 2 grand to Shrubby...my mistake...

[FreedomAngel82]

18. So what will happen to Bushie?

[Warpy]

12. No Dem took money directly from Abramoff's firm

but quite a few have accepted contributions from the clients he represented.

That's where the right wing lies are comimg from. They're telling half the story, as usual.

So do a Paul Harvey on these lying sacks of shit and their dittoing bobbleheads. Tell the rest of the story.

[northzax]

13. which is where the real money is

contributions from clients far exceed anything Abramoff himself could have given away.

[ieoeja]

34. But that has nothing to do with Abramoff or his firm.

His firm connected his clients with Republicans. Those same clients may have had non-Abramoff connections to Democrats. But that has nothing to do with Abramoff, does it?

[northzax]

35. yes, it does

Abramoff gave money to everyone. He wasn't dumb (crooked, but not that dumb) when there is that much money at stake, you give to everyone. Think about it. You can make the max donation to every single member of the house ($5k*435) for only 2.175 million. When there's a couple of hundred million at stake, what's two more?

he obviously gave the real perks to republicans, they had the power, after all, (why bribe someone who can't do anything about it?)

[Gregorian]

14. K street blues.

That is such poetic justice.


Let the truth be known.

[InternalDialogue]

15. Thank you for the links and clips

This has been a topic I've held at distance, hoping someone could dig down through "well, Abramoff gave money to Democrats, too." I suspected what Kos' story says, but it's good to see it with my own eyes and have multiple links.

[politicaholic]

16. I was wondering about that...

It seems to me that you don't gain favor in republican circles by being bipartisan or nonpartisan. From what I understand, you need to prove your loyalty, "either you're with us or against us" type of thing.

Abramoff dealing with Democrats even on a limited basis seemed suspiciously unlikely.

Thanks for the post. K&R

[FreedomAngel82]

19. Exactly

Remember when the freepers were mad at McCain for the whole "gang of fourteen" ordeal with the filibuster?

[troubleinwinter]

20. A kick!

[yodermon]

21. Original WaPo graphic for comparison

Note how it cleverly assumes all the money goes into one bucket and is then doled out.

[MrBenchley]

22. It's an utterly dishonest graphic....

Furthermore, it overlooks the central facts of the Abramoff/Indian tribes scandal...which are:
--Abramoff illegally manipulated tribal elections to get his own handpicked cronies in office;
--Abramoff charged exorbitant lobbying fees, in effect robbing the tribes;
--Abramoff funneled the money to politicans hostile to the tribes interest, made no effort to influence those politicans to change their postions, and traded racist e-mails jeering at his clients with staffers.

[cyberpj]

32. Good question. This was a paticularly damaging graphic. nt.

[Vidar]

23. Thank you for this post.

[flyarm]

25. you are very welcome..please k&r so everyone can see it..

and write to the media and demand the truth ..and stop with the bullshit talking points...let em know we know its all bullshit!!


please kick and r
fly

[Vidar]

26. kick

[Nothing Without Hope]

24. How was this Washington Post graphic put together - it claims many

Dems and some Dem committees received Abramoff money - and how is it to be rebutted? If it is false, then at the LEAST a campaign of LTTEs is needed, with the documented facts to show HOW it is false.

Here's a Dec 12 DU thread on it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5576311

And here is the graphic itself:

[Catrina]

28. Harry Reid said the other day that he never received

a penny from Abramoff. He said that he received money from a former client of Abramoff, or the client of a client, and that he wanted to get that straight.

I hope the Democrats don't do as they usually do, as Kerry did with the Swift Boat liars, and let the lie grow before they attack it head-on and use every opportunity (like when Bush and Tweety mention it as a bi-partisan problem) to jump all over them and further use their lies to bring up and emphasize the fact that this is entirely a horrible, unprecedented, Republican only scandal, the likes of which has never been seen before.

If each time they lie, an all-out attack is launched with more embellishment of all his nefarious deeds and if they name names, like Republican Rep. Ney, Tom Delay et al, like Pavlov's dog, the liars will realize it's best not to mention it all all.

Iow, the plan should be that when a Republican or Republican shill mentions Abramoff and Democrat in the same sentence, all available Democrats should be ready to hold press conferences to accuse the liars of more deception, and challenge them to prove the lies they are telling or threaten to sue them.

But, so far, the lie has been out there for weeks, Tweety et al have apparently not been called and warned not to try to associate Democrats with these incredible crimes. Even I thought that at least Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi had received money from him. It wasn't until this week that Harry Reid finally straightened things out.

I don't understand what it wrong with the Democrats. They don't seem to understand that if you don't come out swinging when these liars start their dirty tricks, it's too late. Republicans know that if you get the lie out there, no matter how it is later proven to be lie, the first impression is what sticks in people's minds. I wish Dems would get that.

Right now they should be screaming and kicking and threatening and demanding retractions. That's what Repubs would be doing. I won't hold my breath though, and I expect I'll be spending (wasting) valuable time refuting and proving to rightwingers, that it is all a lie over the next year. Seems I've been doing that, defending Democrats, for four years now. It would certainly help if they would take the lead this time.

[WinkyDink]

27. I'd ask Bush how he knew.

[oasis]

29. kick

[KyuzoGator]

30. I just hope no Dems benefited from the greenlighting of Red Scorpion 3.

Just sayin'.

[ClassWarrior]

42. I think you're talking about Klingons...

Just sayin'.

NGU.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

31. Thank you fly! K&R! eom

[sybylla]

33. Thanks - K&R n/t

[spanone]

36. What's that little Homemaker Pamela do to make her money????

[B Calm]

37. Republicans love to point their finger and never ever take

responsiblity for their dirt.

[cantstandbush]

38. Great post. DUers are the greatest journalists!!! n/t

[greiner3]

39. Geat post; n/t

[donkeyotay]

40. thanks for this post, flyarm. "It's not what we don't know that hurts us,

It's what we know is so, that ain't." Good brainwashed America already "knows" that Abramoff did democrats the same. Just like they knew Saddam had WMD and was in cahoots with Al Qaeda and that the media is liberal.

[ClassWarrior]

41. .

[B Calm]

43. I Better Not Hear Cons Defending Republicans Associated With Abramoff

[Mutley]

44. I really truly hope not.

But if they did, they should go to hell right along side the others.