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Acebass Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:39 PM
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Who's Bullshitting who here?...
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 05:40 PM by Acebass
I thought we were supposed to be doing all we could to save energy...seems like the buck has stopped at the top again...


After years of research, Charles Bates is close to perfecting a more energy-efficient method for casting engine blocks, a technique that industry would love to put into wider use. The University of Alabama engineer, who uses X-rays to monitor the shaping of molten metal, says only one big technical hurdle remains in refining a process that uses 30% less energy than traditional casting methods. "We've been making progress by leaps and bounds," he adds.

But Bates may be stopped short. The U.S. Energy Dept. wants to slash funding for the efficiency program that supports his work. This perplexes the foundry industry. "It's a great program, and we'd be sorry to see it go," says Bryan Baker, vice-president of Vulcan Engineering, which supplies casting equipment to General Motors (GM), BMW, and others.

Across the board, federal funding for energy efficiency is taking a major hit. In the White House's proposed 2007 budget, efficiency spending is down 17% overall from 2006 appropriations, and 25% from levels in 2002. The cuts are deeper for individual programs. Research to help industry reduce energy use is slated for a 30% decrease, and some programs are being shut down.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12496475/
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:53 PM
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1. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Acebass Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:00 PM
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2. Thanks!...
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:02 PM
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3. Yep
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 06:02 PM by sutz12
Say something, do the exact opposite.

Par for the course.
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Acebass Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:07 PM
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4. Don't pay any attention to that man behind the curtain!...n/t
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 07:31 PM
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8. It's gotten to the point that...
... when he says something, you just automatically know he is or soon will be doing the exact opposite. I keep thinking back to Molly Ivins' warning to the nation in 2000 to ignore what he says and pay attention to what he does. It's just astounding to me that 32% of the public still have their heads so far up their asses that they haven't figured that out yet.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:34 PM
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19. I hear you...but 32% is a fictitious number...no way it's more than 20...
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Acebass Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:42 PM
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20. Molly Hit's it right on the head...n/t
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:26 PM
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5. If we want efficiency, the thing...
...to do is have you're paycheck rerouted directly to the Pentagon---the war budget is where all our money is going to end up anyway. Everything else is going to be decimated if not eliminated.
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Acebass Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:43 PM
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6. And all the billionares can worry about is their estate tax...boohoo..n/t
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:48 PM
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7. Energy efficiency means less profit for the energy industry.
And since we all know that they (Cheney) are all greedy, soulless bastards; we should also note that a corrupt bureaucratic body can only run at peak inefficiency by stifling progress and innovation.

Ya know, there was a time when capitalist LOVED progress in industry and innovation.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 07:56 PM
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9. Kicked and recommended!
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Anita Garcia Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 08:08 PM
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10. kicking for the truth
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Acebass Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:30 PM
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11. Thank Ye!...n/t
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:41 PM
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12. This is about all we need to know about energy efficient * programs.
Wow, a structural change, amazing. I didn't know about this. Of course, you slash funds.

Now why are the car makers not funding this. Geez, they'd own a piece of it. That's curious.
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Acebass Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:04 PM
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14. Whats in it for them!...one of the perils of privatization...
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 10:06 PM by Acebass
they'll wait till they can buy the technology cheap...now that the government has sunk all the money into the research for them...our tax dollars that could have bought body armor...

There's a method to the madness!...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:18 PM
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15. Thanks, I needed that. I presumed a "rational market" ROFL GreatPost
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Acebass Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:24 PM
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17. rational?! thats another word that doesn't fit this administration...n/t
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:44 PM
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13. Message from MINITRUE:
That information never existed. Double-plus-un-good.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:22 PM
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16. not to be a pain in the ass, but...
Who's bullshitting whom? is the question you want to ask... other than the grammar, right on.
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Acebass Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:27 PM
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18. groan....you are being a pain...
I was going to do that but didnt want to sound snobish...LOL
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 11:13 PM
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21. Compare that with this:
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Acebass Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 11:41 PM
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22. There's a disconnect...it's wierd...
People are saying things, then other things pop up to confuse the issue...

I knew this would happen though as soon as the Dems started to roll, like a card game...

What bothers me though is big business gettign their hands in here and once again gettui=ing a bargain at tax payer expense...

Public, ours/Private, theres...
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