Bill Kristol: "W/o tax cuts to oil companies, oil prices would be higher."

[Roland99]

:crazy: :crazy:

[saltpoint]

1. With mandatory beheadings for assholes, journalism would improve.

[eleny]

2. He can be so slappable

[Roland99]

5. He also said what Libby did was about a *Past* event, the CIA officer

fired was leaking info about an *ongoing* event.


So, now they're playing semantics to cover up their illegal activities.

[eleny]

11. Hooray for Juan Williams

He stood up for the CIA analyst who leaked about the secret torture prisons. None of the other panelists could argue him down, either. He stood his ground defending her until they gave up.

[Roland99]

14. They kept trying to shout Juan down, a la O'Reilly

[eleny]

18. And they got nowhere

It was a good example for Williams to set. Who needs to be afraid of all those right wingers! They never even called him unpatriotic. I think he baffled them with his firm resolve. What a hoot. The bottom line is that he made them defend the secrecy of unamerican torture prisons.
:rofl:

[Roland99]

29. Ayup...and they're going to vilify Mary McCarthy...see this>>>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1005810&mesg_id=1005810

[eleny]

31. thanks roland!

[salinen]

3. W/o wars to remove others resources

oil prices would be lower Bill, you dirtscum.

[0007]

4. Run that one by me again, will ya? cough cough

[ClassWarrior]

6. So, in other words, we're paying an additional HIDDEN cost for oil??

Then eliminate the corporate welfare and let's have fair, open, and free competition based on actual costs.

Electric cars anyone?

NGU.

[TheCowsCameHome]

7. If his mouth was any wider his ears would cave in.

Typical RW bigmouth. The bigger the mouth, the narrower the mind.

[Patsy Stone]

8. Please correct me if I'm wrong

but while speaking to Congress, didn't the reps for these companies state they didn't really need the tax cuts? It's nice that Kristol has so much time to fight for the welfare of others.

[ToeBot]

9. So the only solution is to nationalize the oil industry, Thanks Bill! eom

[Mythsaje]

10. They'd have to get their obscene profits from SOMEWHERE...

What a weasel...

No offense meant to real weasels.

[Robbien]

12. w/o tax cuts to oil companies, bottom line profits would be much lower

Kristol is such a tool

[BrklynLiberal]

13. I resent being spoken to like I am an idiot! Kristol is peeing on my

shoes and telling me it is raining!!! :mad: :grr: :nuke:

[NYC]

15. To obtain the same record profits, they would have had to gouge

even more. That's the same thing. Yes, oil prices would have been higher because oil profits would not have been lower. They weren't passing up this Bush-Cheney opportunity.

[G2099]

16. Total BS - enuff said

[BlueEyedSon]

17. maybe profits can be lower, huh?

[Coastie for Truth]

19. Time for an Excess Profits/Windfall Profits Tax

with the proceeds going to a Marshall Plan for Gaza and the West Bank, and Darfur. (Where the oil states are screwing their own people).

[kurth]

20. Shut up, warmongering neocon

Starting with the 1991 Gulf War, he continuously called for the ousting of Saddam Hussein... Kristol first made his mark as leader of the Project for the Republican Future, a conservative think tank, and rose to fame as a conservative opinionmaker during the battle over the Clinton health care plan. In his first of what would become legendary strategy memos circulated among Republican policymakers, Kristol said the party should "kill," not amend or compromise on, the Clinton health care plan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kristol

[aquart]

21. Has he checked their PROFITS?

What an utter ass.

[demosincebirth]

22. Why would they need tax cuts with $35+ billion in profits?

Still scratching my head on that one.

[Canuckistanian]

23. Profit is the constant here

Gas and oil prices are the variable in this equation, tax breaks or no.

[shain from kane]

26. The past argument was that corporations would pass on the cost of

income taxes to the consumers, anyway.

[Canuckistanian]

27. The prices are damned hard to defend

Even WITH the tax breaks. Suppy and demand are a fiction where oil&gas are concerned.

There's some even older dynamic working here - Greed, pure and simple.

[shain from kane]

30. "The best idea that I have seen posted on this topic is to buy a gas can,

fill it with a gallon of gas, paint the date "November 7, 2006", and show it to your friends, neighbors, relatives, the local newspaper, etc.
This is to guarantee to the politicians at every level that you have enough gas in storage to drive to the polls, and elect someone who will help the common people combat the practices of the oil industry.
This is not a case of supply and demand, when the industry is united to exploit the present situation."

This is a copy of my reply to another topic. I don't want to take credit for the original idea, but I believe that it should become widespread.
I also addressed the topic of supply and demand, and exploitation, in the original post.

[Roland99]

37. Sad that that may be the only way some people can get to the polls.

[rman]

36. Not just profit, but rather profit growth -

sustained profit growth is what they want. They believe in the myth of an ever expanding global economy. So for them not making more profit tomorrow then today is bad performance; in their mind it means they didn't make use of economic opportunities.

[Imagevision]

24. Bill Krystal is a drunk!

[TreasonousBastard]

25. Got any insect repellent? Kristol's job is to say...

dumb shit like that.

[90-percent]

28. question

if they're passing on taxes to the consumer, shouldn't they also pass on tax cuts to the consumer?

-85% jimmy

[zulchzulu]

32. What do you expect from one of the founders of PNAC?

The guy is an evil fuck. The day he takes a dirt nap will be a great day for Mother Earth.

[Kerrytravelers]

33. mr. kristol suffers from "Napoleon Syndrome."

Not that every short man has this affliction, but I have had the misfortune of finding myself standing right next to this idiot about ten years ago, and believe me, he is short. He feels inadequate and, instead of just being a good person and accepting he is short, he feels the need to make up for what he feels he is lacking and be vicious instead. I had a professor who throughly believed in "Napoleon Syndrome." At first, I called bullshit, but after a while, I came to believe it. For some reason, our society has men convinced that they must be nearing 6 feet to be a 'strong man." Neocons who base their "strength" on how tough they are perceived, and not how good of a human being they are, tend to be prone to "Napoleon Syndrome."

I sure hope this post wasn't read with the wrong tone and perceived as condesceding. That was not the intention.

[Lusted4]

34. Bill Kristol is proof that not only does

sniffing buffalo farts singe your eyebrows but it also causes brain damage and uncontrollable yapping.

[OneBlueSky]

35. New Rule . . . if Bill Kristol says something . . .

believe the exact opposite . . .

same applies to Bush, Cheney, Rummy, and all the rest of 'em . . .

[DemonFighterLives]

38. Get on the right page kristol

Cspn is talking about windfall profits tax, not breaks. It doesn't matter what is done the oil cronies will rob us blind. Kristol is smiling all the way to the bank. Jerk!
:argh:

[dogday]

39. Why????? aren't their profits high enough???? nt

[JNelson6563]

40. The floggings will continue until morale improves

Nothing like reich-wing "thinking".

[Supersedeas]

41. the Corporate Welfare bunnies are getting nervous

[Roland99]

45. For good reason. The writing is now visible on the wall.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1009288

[Libby2]

42. Big freaking deal

We are paying for it one way or the other.

[spanone]

43. Yea, Ol' Georgie boy is looking out for our well being all the time.

what utter horseshit.

[ComerPerro]

44. I've heard them blame Environmentalism as well

[lectrobyte]

46. Without record profits to oil companies, oil prices would be lower!

As the price of crude oil has climbed - hitting a record $75.35 a barrel in New York on Friday - the combined 2005 earnings of Exxon Mobil, the world's biggest oil company; BP Plc, the second-biggest; Royal Dutch Shell Plc; Chevron Corp.; and ConocoPhillips topped $111 billion.


http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060424/1073899.asp