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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:52 PM
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Have you all read this? "AFTER SUPER TUESDAY: WHY OBAMA IS A SURE LOSER"
Someone posted this in GDP.

I brought up the importance of nailing down electoral votes in big states
in a reply post the other day, and Obama supporters skewered me instantly.

Here's a snippet:

The list of states captured by Obama on Feb. 5 is
largely a joke, except for Illinois and a couple
of others. He proudly lists Alaska, Idaho,
Kansas, North Dakota, and Utah. What do these
states have in common? They are states which a
Democrat could never win in a general election.
Under the Electoral College system, Democratic
votes in these states are worthless – they will
be thrown away. How many people are there in the
Alaska Democratic Party? The caucus turnout seems
to have been below 1,000 people. Idaho is one of
the most reactionary states – the Democratic
Party there could meet in a phone booth. The same
goes for Utah. Delaware is a perfect state for
Obama – rich Volvo-driving, chablis and brie
elitists in the Philadelphia suburbs, but it does
not look like America. Colorado is another Obama
state where the well-off suburban voter can be
decisive in a Democratic primary. True, Obama won
Connecticut, which has some union voters, but it
looks like Greenwich, Cos Cob, and Yale carried
the day. Missouri might fall to Clinton on a
recount; in any case, the race was very close.
Minnesota is a special case because of the
Democrat Farmer-Labor Party; this was in any case
a state that went for Mondale, for various reasons – not a good bellwether.

To win an election, a Democrat must win the
Electoral College megastates to get to the 270
plus electoral votes needed to eject the GOP from
the White House. Mrs. Clinton carried these
states convincingly, starting with California,
where all of Obama’s money could not save him.
California is so huge, so crucial, and so much a
symbol of America’s future in the Pacific
century, that the argument could well end here. A
Democrat who cannot win California has no hope of
entering the White House. But there is much more.






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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:57 PM
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1. I have read artilces similar to this. But most responses of obamafolks snark
back at me talking of how he reaches across to Repugs.

They don't think ahead to the GE

yes, i can well imagine you got dissed on 'out there'--its brutal.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:18 AM
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2. I'm noticing more and more Obama supporters getting tired of the rhetoric
Dahlia Lithwick just published her "why I'm breaking up with Obama piece"
in Slate last Thursday.

Have you read it yet?

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