Spiritualists who also like/know astrology and are parents...a (personal) question.

[BlueIris]

This is mostly being posed out of curiosity. Responses will not be judged, I'm just asking...

How "seriously" did or do you "take" your kid's natal charts? Did anyone here have a strong reaction to what was "in" a child's natal chart, or to other aspects of his/her child's astrology during said child's "early" years? If so, how did you deal with that reaction? Like, if any of you noticed that a child had "challenging" aspects, how did you cope?

[Shine]

1. Both my kids are double Scorpios

and I take that VERY seriously. ShineBoy has sun and moon in Scorpio, but ShineGirl has sun and rising in Scorpio, so it's interesting to see how they're similar and yet different and not just because of their genders, either. :D

ShineBoy actually has a stellium of 6 planets in Scorpio, all in his first house! :scared: He's very powerful and that info has helped to keep things in perspective. Now that he's 14, he's got the full-on teenage attitude goin' on, which can be hard. We get into power struggles a lot. Mars has a lot to do with it, I think. Scorpio and Aries both are effected by Mars.

ShineGirl's chart is a bit more balanced, which certainly fits with her personality.

I don't track specific aspects, but I definitely had both their natal charts cast when they were born.

MrShine and I are both fire signs (Sag and Aries, respectively), so it's interesting having two very watery kids. Lots of steam and warmth of feeling, though. :D

:hi:

[southerncrone]

11. Your Shinegirl & I are twins.

[Callie McAllie]

2. My son's chart helps me understand him

He has scorpio sun, as do I, so some of his ways I'm familiar with on my own. He was born 3 days before my own birthday, and I used to get a local astrologer to do my reading for me every year as a birthday present to myself. The year he was born, my reading was more about him than me, which was fine. One thing she said about him was that he will "always be able to find a girl to do things for him." And he certainly does have that scorpio charmer aspect to his personality. I can totally see that. He's 11 now, and it just gets more apparent all the time. He is much slicker and more glib than I am, does not suffer fools easily or well, also unlike me, because of my moon in Pisces. That has been true about him from a very young age.

So more recently I looked into his moon sign. He has moon in Taurus, and exhibits the reverence for the past and dislike of change that should be characteristic. Many of the other scorpio-sun qualities--charmer, born leader, introspective--could also be a function of his moon, which trines Venus (charmer), squares Mars (born leader), and is opposite Pluto (introspective).

Thankfully, and knock on wood, I have no problems with this kid, so I don't know how much this helps with your question. Perhaps I will spend some time looking at the charts for my two troubled stepdaughters, both in their 20s. Perhaps understanding their charts will help me understand (or at least cope with) them.

[ricochetastroman]

3. I take my child's chart extremely seriously.

From the second he was born. I use it to guide me to understand his energies. That's the best way to put it.

[BlueIris]

4. These are great responses.

Mostly, I'm just concerned that if I ever have a child to raise, (my "own" bio kid, a step-child, or one who comes to me via a foster or adoption scenario) I might look at his or her astrology and see the "challenging" aspects and freak out.

[Grateful for Hope]

5. Loving a child

has a way of mitigating the challenges and accentuating the positives of that child. I think that if you should ever have a child to raise and love, you would look upon those challenges as endearing qualities of that little one.

[DemExpat]

8. So true, Hope....

I love my children's less than perfect characteristics - especially now that they have reached maturity safely through adolescence! :crazy:

DemEx

[ricochetastroman]

6. No need to freak out

use it for understanding
as you watch these planets go round and round
at first
you freak out
you know nothing else
as time goes on, you relax and watch them as natural emergences of energies from within

[DemExpat]

7. Both of my children's' chart interpretations have been absolutely

spot on as revealed throughout their development into young adults.

I never freaked out at the challenges, maybe because I wanted to see their strengths and gifts, but also wanted to see the possible negative tendencies in order to be "ready" for things as well as to understand them and hopefully guide the child through them safely.

I did not refer to Astrology on a daily or weekly basis, but would use it when I needed support and guidance in dealing with their energy and relationship tendencies - as a part of my parenting network of friends/family/child psychology and development books to help me be a more confident and hopefully positive parent.

Very positive tool IMO.

DemEx

[stellanoir]

9. I gave birth to my only child at home.

So when the midwives were checking his vitals, color, ten fingers, and ten toes, for the moment after his birth, I already had his chart in my hands and I'm such and astro head that my first thought was, "this kid's parents don't get along." It was as though for that moment, I dissociated from being like. . .THE MOTHER.
Then, my second thought was, "this kid's will is stronger than mine. I surrender, I surrender." It was as though in that moment, I accepted that I was like. . .
HIS MOTHER. :rofl:

He's a Gemini, with a Cancer Moon, a Virgo rising, and a mighty stellium in Leo so he's had a slew of Saturn transits for the past 7 years or so and aside from having horrendously bad relationships with his really inept science teachers (until this year-this one is a gem), I would say that Saturn has helped him. . .mature (e-gads.)

The Pluto opposition to his Sun probably escalated his experience of puberty.

Saturn's first pass over his Ascendant had him taking standard academic courses where he found himself surrounded by angry Goths. That made him realize that he should switch courses to the Honors courses which he really likes and which his teachers had recommended last year. He had been over reacting to his lousy science teacher from last year. So far so good.

All one can do is recognize that transits will come and transits will go. They always have positive and negative potentials. I've explained the cycles he is under with an annual chart and Tarot reading, on the night before the first day of school and on other occasions when I know that his chart is getting a direct hit.

Other than that, rather than freaking out, maybe consider visualizing them as happy and healthy as you possibly can. It's probably much better magic.

[SheilaT]

10. I have two sons.

I have had their charts done, and perhaps the most striking thing is how very different those charts are from each other. Their teachers (they attended a very small private school together) often told me they never knew siblings who were so different.

I don't pay enough attention, and I'm not an astrologer, so I can't quote you anything specific about their charts or the differences therein, but I know it matches what they are.

[southerncrone]

12. I cast both of my kids charts after they were born & analyzed them

in the beginning. I referred to them on occasion, doing progressions during eventful times in their lives. I guess I've used them more as a tool for understanding & helping them grow through & around difficult times, as well as opportune times. For me, astrology is a tool for guidance & insight.
Remember that loving & caring individuals can help anyone overcome negative traits & aspects.

It's only normal to worry about the type of kids you might have b/4 you have them, but once they are here, you will love them & accept them regardless of their bad "aspects". ;)

[BlueIris]

13. I appreciate all of these responses, but I'll confess:

Something I worry about sometimes is how I would cope with what a challenging and difficult chart would suggest about me as a parent. I can't imagine what I will do if a child in my care "comes" to me with a chart that to me (or others) suggests "difficult relationship with mother," "difficult homelife/environment," etc. I realize that no parent, especially a mother, is perfect or should expect to be perfect, (or really anything close to it) and I realize that we all have free will, the capability to adapt to trying circumstances and access to the mercy of spirit. But I'm having a hard time dealing with the idea that should I choose parenthood, I will wind up with a child whose chart indicates being raised in deprivation, misery or pain.