New Matthew message from October 13, 2006

[I Have A Dream]

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=63&z=2

[I Have A Dream]

1. Matthew mentions the October 17th Cosmic Trigger event

"In this light, literally, I shall reply to the questions about the remarkable universal event expected October 17th. Yes indeed, this is “for real”! The magnification of light during those hours is of extreme importance to your individual and planetary progression, and we urge all of you to concentrate on your heart’s desire for self and Earth, on love and peace and the god-ness of every soul."

Here's the link to the thread about October 17th:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=28349&mesg_id=28349

[Metta]

2. Thanks, Dream, for sharing this uplifting link.

I always appreciate getting information from the other side. :hug: :)

[mother earth]

3. Thanks for posting this IHAD! I've been trying to ck on those

messages and the website is a mess. I wouldn't have been able to read it at all if it weren't for you posting it. :hug:

[I Have A Dream]

4. As you probably read, Matthew said that someone's been messing...

with the site. As he said, someone really doesn't want his message to get out.

:hug:

[Proud_Lefty]

5. Whenever they mess with it

They only endorse the message as a TRUE threat. Poor Suzanne. This type of stuff really ruffles her, but hey, she's got the best re-enforcement you could ever wish for. And she deserves it. What a super lady!

[MorningGlow]

13. FYI a message from Suzy through the mailing list

October 15, 2006

Hello to all!

It’s a wonderful (and huge) surprise that so many of you responded with offers of help to my note on Matthew’s last message about “lending me time and patience.” Heartfelt thanks for your great kindness!!

But I’m really embarrassed about not writing clearly. What I meant by “time” is that I need more hours in my day to answer emails (especially those that have been waiting for two months) and to handle all of my family responsibilities and our travels and visitors. It’s because I don’t have more time that I’m resorting to (and apologizing for) this “form” THANK YOU. No one can lend me their extra hours (does anyone even have any?!) or extra “patience” so I can deal with the hacking into my site.

When I wrote my note, I didn’t know that after the messages section was restored, the hacker went back and did more mischief—I learned about this later thanks to several emails. My webmaster is working with my server to rebuild the files and give the site even tighter security. I do know that www.matthewbooks.com isn’t the only site that’s been attacked and I’m in a lot of good company with serious computer problems, so it’s obvious that someone(s) is/are trying to keep Matthew’s and others’ important information from getting out.

I’m going to use this opportunity rather than wait for the next message to mention the mistake in “Spencer” as Canada’s prime minister (my thanks to all who wrote about this). I didn’t know his name (Harper) and simply copied the email question about him into my list. Matthew replies to the information in the questions, so his comment in this case pertains to the right person/position, but by the wrong name. I really hate to have any errors in the messages, and somewhat in my defense, usually I do spot those kinds of things in the questions and check—this time I didn’t.

Also I’m going to use this space to reply to everyone who’s been requesting Matthew to send messages more frequently (or complaining because he doesn’t). This isn’t Matthew’s fault, it’s all the other demands on my time. I date the messages the day I send them out (although the last one was dated the day before I could do that), but in many cases he and I work on them for a few days as my time permits, and on the last day, he adds the most current information. Since that’s what most of you want to know (according to the emails I receive), you would be disappointed with a message that didn’t include it. Other times I can devote two full computer days to preparing the questions, receiving Matthew’s message, proofing it for my typos, giving him a chance to amplify his comments or add topics, and the distribution.

And last, to you who knew that four of our family would join Bob and me in Rome and we’d tour Italy before and after I spoke in Torino, and you’ve written asking how it went—our trip was FABULOUS and my talk went well. Even though I’ve known from emails I receive from around the world that there’s widespread interest in spirituality and understanding our world and ourselves in a universal context, it was tremendously heartwarming to personally experience this in Torino!

With a heart full of gratitude for the caring so many of you have shown, and with blessings to all…

LOVE and PEACE…

Suzy

[Bluestar]

6. I don't know how this will be received here but . . .

I have only been following the Matthew readings for about a year. I think that he is losing me with talk of "reptilians". I believe in the message of hope that he gives us, but he is now starting to sound like a lot of other channelers who talk about reptilians and lizard people. Also, I have doubts about his claims that the moon landing was faked.

My own guides tell me to view all channeling with a healthy dose of skepticism and these particular things don't ring true for me. Perhaps this information has been in the previous readings all along and I have just become aware of it. I don't mean to offend anyone here who believes all of this to be true, but I just have to bring this up. Does anyone else find this information to not ring true?

Love and light,
Bluestar

[mother earth]

7. I take what I read with a grain of salt. Some I believe & some

I doubt...but you never know...we've had some pretty awful things perpetrated upon us by our own gov't, of that I've no doubt....the Illuminati...well if they are real...I wouldn't doubt that they are reptilians...they are certainly capable of the worst crimes against humanity. Isn't the real base side, the reactionary part of our brain referred to as reptilian?

I have to say I was tempted to post a similar question...it all sounds very David Icke to me.
But who is to say HE isn't right, lol? I am not a fan of his, but I believe time reveals everything...so take what you will and leave the rest is how I feel.

I am convinced of 911 being rife with lies and deceptions & further convinced in time we will know the truth, so I don't get too bogged down with it.

I like to hear and read different perspectives and so far don't buy into anything 100%, including religion, but I do believe in a supreme higher power.

Let me also say, these are strange times we are living in & absolutely nothing would shock me.

[Proud_Lefty]

8. Matthew's messages resonate with me

And because of that, I tend to believe more than not. Long ago, I realized that our world was filled with deceptions and manipulations and I still believe that the degree of lies and deceptions, once fully realized, will blow every single one of us away. I had to learn to open myself up to possibilities that sources within our society has worked so hard to suppress. That doesn't mean believe anything anyone says, but part of the process is using sound judgment in not forming a concrete decision about something until it's been proven one way or another. Shutting off considering possibilities because our society considers it taboo or you'd be considered crazy for even considering it is one of the strongest forms of manipulation in our country. If it hasn't been proven either way, I'd prefer to keep all possibilities open, leaning one way or another based on what we do know. As to your examples, I would tend to lean to believing that our government would lie to us about such things rather than believe them because that's what's been proven to happen continuously so far.

I've been careful to enjoy Matthews' messages without just believing all of it as concrete, especially since I once was a fundamentalist Christian and was really taken for a fool. I'm much more careful now. Matthews' messages are so right on, with the exception of time tables and some predictions. It's been discussed many times that time is so different between the veil and predictions can always change because of free will. Therefore, I remain leaning towards the messages, especially since so much of it makes more sense where so many other philosophies just don't.

[Why Syzygy]

9. I believe in messages from other dimensions

and that some people have the ability to allow that transmission. I think Esther Hicks is one, although I have only heard the introductory tapes. In it 'Abraham' even explains briefly that the messages are actually coming from 'them' and Esther, iow that she developed the ability to hear from the other dimensions. I follow quantum physics and definitely believe in the other dimensions.

As I understand it, both scientifically and spiritually, the quantum space/time is one 'particle'. One. I surely don't understand much of it, but when I started reading "The Dance of Life", it just struck me that it fit in exactly with the study of metaphysics I've done over the years. "Meta" meaning beyond. Interestingly, "quantum" can mean large or small. It can tie my brain in knots trying to follow.

However, believing in the meta/quantum physics (the science that deals with matter, energy, motion, and force) mold means that there is One. We don't perceive it as One, but it is. Given this, that means that even if there are so-called reptilians, they are part of the One as well. Nothing can exist outside the One. Like one or zero, on or off. It either is or it isn't.

So rather than focus on if there are or are there not, and what they might be up to, I try to concentrate on how to bring myself more in alignment with the One. I believe that some do know how to influence the other dimensions. In fact I believe we do it all the time without knowing it. Personally, I choose not to give any energy to those thought forms. That's just me.

[Matariki]

10. yeah, you're not alone

it reads like science fiction to me - and a mish-mash of conspiracy theories. I kinda like reading it for the entertainment value - & wish the very optimistic predictions were true. I philosophically jive with the writer's outlook on a lot of things, such as idea of thought affecting reality and the need therefore to avoid fearful and worried thinking. A good panacea to reading DU.

[hippiechick]

11. Yes.

n/t

[Grateful for Hope]

12. I also have my doubts. n/t

[cassiepriam]

14. Moon walks and reptiles...

I agree. I too had difficulty with Matthew's comments
about these things.

I suppose the faked moon walk is possible if all politicians are basically not much different than Cheney, Bush and Rumsfield. There is no doubt in my mind that if Bush Co. thought there was something in it for them, they would fake a moon walk in a heart beat. And Matthew's point is that all politicians have been like Bush Co. We are just seeing the reality now for the first time. All the light being sent to the Earth is acting like a flashlight on the evil.

And the reptiles? I have no idea what to make of that piece. Sounds far fetched to me too. Coincidentally I had also been reading another book where a clairvoyant was talking about seeing reptiles.There are supposed to be two kinds, one good, the other evil. I thought it was all a bit much. Then Matthew speaks about the reptilian creatures as well. I don't know.

However I supposed anything is possible, in the not too distant past, the average person would have thought it crazy that people can fly in airplanes, small bacteria that cannot be seen cause illness, and that someday we will communicate with anyone any where in the globe instantly via the Internet.

[cassiepriam]

15. Dupe

[Matariki]

21. There's a big collection of sci-fi like conspiracy therories

I used to live with a guy *way* into ufo's, the 'greys' and the 'reptilians' mk-ultra and 'harp' and all that sort of conspiracy stuff. This was way back in the 80's. This stuff has been circulating for ever it seems. I think it's mostly silly. When I read the 'Matthew' stuff it seems like she hasn't left a single Art Bell topic out of her 'channeling'.

[jokerman93]

30. Take any new age "conspiracy theory"

...and you can trace it back to an old television show or film idea. The collective unconscious is a wonderful thing to behold.

Reptilians posing as humans was an eighties mini-series called V. Of course the conspiracy advocates will say the media is just trying to get the truth out. What we miss too often is that these things are metaphors, and as metaphors they really can inform.

But when we start thinking this stuff is literal and actual as framed, we fall into the same mental trap as the christian dominionists and others do. It's just more difficult to see because supposedly this is a new age and "we" are enlightened - and couldn't possibly be thinking like fundies.

But I do enjoy reading Mathew's messages. He has a hopeful message, if a little naive. I think a big part of it though, really is just to help us regular people stay hopeful and visualizing a brighter future for us all. Karen Bishop's writing is similar in that way. She often describes very common symptoms of stress that we all have and anchors them to the idea of huge energetic changes that are happening in the world consciousness. It's a good way to get us moving in a positive direction. Can't be a bad thing. The world needs all the help we can give it with our positive expectations and visions of peace, prosperity and renewal for all. So I'm down with it!
:evilgrin:
J

[I Have A Dream]

22. Bluestar, I strongly believe that EVERYTHING here is open for discussion.

That's what makes this forum so great.

I'm a person who has never really had anything extraordinary happen to her in reference to metaphysical experiences. I'm a really grounded person (too much actually), and I'm very physically and mentally attached to this plane of existence. Therefore, almost everything that's discussed here is beyond my understanding in terms of having experienced it personally. However, I find that much of it resonates with me, so I believe it even though I haven't personally experienced it.

The very first time that I ever heard of reptilians was before Bush Jr. and Cheney were even discussed as being the Republican nominees for the 2000 election. I was in a Barnes and Noble bookstore looking around in the Computer section. Among the computer books, I found a book entitled "The Biggest Secret" by David Icke. It was as though it was just waiting there for me -- it felt very strange. I'm not sure if any of you have ever looked at it or even heard of it, but it was about the Illuminati and the reptilian control of our planet. It mentioned a lot of names, two of the biggest of which were George Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney. It talked about rape, Satanism, mind control, and all kinds of other very, very weird stuff about the fact that our planet's controlled by the Illuminati. (Same as what Matthew says.) It blew my mind because it was actually the wildest thing that I'd ever encountered. Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney were the two people most focused on in the book, at least from my reading of the book.

When Bush Jr. was selected as the Republican candidate with Dick Cheney as his running mate, it was such an amazing coincidence. What has happened since fits exactly into what he said in the book. This doesn't mean that I believe what the book says, but it certainly makes it more worthy of contemplating its possible validity that it would have otherwise.

I have VERY ambivalent feelings about this. The thought of reptilians controlling our planet seems very strange to me and logically extremely unlikely, but many other things that we discuss here are things that are strange to this Earth-bound Capricorn, so I don't really have to take much more of a leap of faith to actually consider its possiblility than I do for many other things here.

One thing that I have to say is that I believe that it's possible, and the very fact that even many of us here in this forum think that it's so unbelievable would be something that would keep many people who might have more information or proof about it from speaking their minds, even if they had the courage to do so, since almost nobody would believe them. I don't know of too many people who would risk the almost certain risk to their life that would be associated with being a whistleblower in reference to this if nobody's going to believe them anyway. Also, anyone who would speak up would forever be labeled as mentally unstable and would never again be taken seriously.

These are my feelings about the subject. Bottom line: I don't know, but the fact that Matthew's also saying it makes it just a little more likely that I'll believe it.

[Bluestar]

23. Thanks, I Have a Dream, for the reassurances

that anything can be discussed here. I have had many other-worldly experiences and I think that there is a group of Illuminati that have controlled us up to now, so I'm accustomed to believing in the strange and unusual. What I have a hard time with is the use of the word "reptilian". I guess it reminds me of the sci-fi movies where people look human on the outside and they tear off their skin during the movie and they are actually big reptiles with tongues hanging out waiting to eat human flesh. Matthew says something like "how can Americans not see that reptilians are present in the government" or some such thing. Well, most of us are not highly evolved enough to "see" beings as reptilian versus human. We can only see what our eyes tell us. As Matthew is on the other side, I assume that he senses energy, rather than sees what is going on so I am assuming that's why he is confused if we can't "see" it and it seems very clear to him.

This channeling had a different feel for me than the other messages. It did not feel like it came from the same entity that we have come to know as Matthew. Again, we can't "see" what's going on, we take things at surface value so we assume it is Matthew. I had some qualms about his saying that they sometimes make mistakes and we shouldn't lose faith in the ascension if the things that he has been telling us turn out not to be true. This is OK if he didn't constantly tell us that "there will be no more nuclear war" and "the end of the Bush administration is near"--such definite, unequivocal statements. And then tell us it might not be true! But I recognize that I may be creating this conflict because of my own constant search for answers from somewhere outside of myself.

I know in my own channeling that my guides give me possibilities and probabilities, assuming that free will takes over for the final result. They have a great deal of trouble with the earthly concept of time and this is a constant source of frustration for me. What they see as mere days can turn into years because they are sensing energy and are not bound by the concept of earthly time. I found out recently that they don't even understand the earthly concept of money and had to be educated!! What's really interesting is that my guides tell me that in terms of earthly concepts, I (and my spiritual partners here on earth) are far more powerful than they are at creating things because we are masters of the earth energy. It has taken me years (and I'm still trying) to stop assigning my guides supernatural powers and recognize my own power. I am being taught that this is the lesson of ascension--we earthly beings will bring our own divinity into earthly manifestation and stop looking to those "above" to make things happen.

[Angel Wings]

25. Hey, Bluestar!

It's still kind of hard for me to wrap my head around being more powerful or aw inspiring to a guide or higher light being like I have read different places from different channeled accounts.

Also, about Matthew's message where he asks why people can't see the reptilians in our gov., form what I gather it was a question that most people ask and he then supplied the answer for it. Here is the quote I found:

"How could reptilians live on Earth and even be in the US government without the public knowing? Because they look human and don’t advertise their reptilian DNA by shape-shifting in public. This is not a difference in souls, but only in physical body elements, and please remember that there are both “good” and “bad” reptilians just as there are humans."


And, thats an interesting concept all in it's self for me.:)

[Matariki]

26. Have you considered that "Matthew" read the same book?

rather than coming up with it independently?

[I Have A Dream]

27. It's possible. The big thing for me though was that the Icke book...

so stressed that Bush Sr./Cheney were extremely powerful members of this group, and then the son of the one and the other one himself are the very people who are selected to head the Republican party and ultimately the US. If they had done even some good during their "reign", I'd again question it more, but they have done nothing but horrifying things for over 6 years, and these are only the things about which we know.. Given these things, I'm more likely to believe the book's assertions a bit more.

If the book had come out after Bush/Cheney had been selected, I'd be less likely to give it as much weight as I have.

Believe me, I don't want to believe what the book said because it's just so horrifying. I don't like that everything has happened as he has described it in the book.

[Matariki]

28. those two are pretty cold. 'reptilian' seems like an apt metaphor

they seem completely lacking in empathy. they've been around for a long time too, since the Nixon era.

[latebloomer]

24. Could the "reptiles" be just a metaphor?

I know that i often have perceived Dick Cheney as a lizard-- not literally, but the image resonates.

I'm pretty sure David Icke means it literally, which made me dismiss most of the rest of his thesis. It's unfortunate that Matthew is using the same term.

As for the moon landing being a fake-- doubtful, but who really knows?

I take everything with a grain of salt-- I'd love to believe Matthew speaks the truth, but I'm too much of a skeptic for that. It's very intriguing to read, tho.

[cassiepriam]

32. I wondered too about the reptilian reference being a metaphor

or an archetype.

And yes Bush reminds me of a ferret or weasel.
Cheney a lizard.
Rove a rodent.

[cassiepriam]

16. Elections

I agree with Matthew, that the elections may be rigged
again, just like the past.

We need to be prepared for that possibility.

Bush may fear impeachment and even prosecution for his crimes while in office. They may all be getting nervous and afraid to let go of any power.

[crikkett]

17. OR, he might be planning a hasty getaway. I read yesterday

that W. bought land in Paraguay. Of course, that could just be for water rights. The Moonies have land there too. And escaped Nazis.
:evilgrin:

[cassiepriam]

18. LOL I just read that too! Plan B if he cannot rig the elections

as much as he would like this time.

PS Why does he want the water rights??

[mother earth]

19. Cassie, those reptiles are probably going to control water like they

control oil in the future. ;)

I think you are right about Plan B, but unfortunately Plan A may not be abandoned. They've been quite successful in the past two elections...why stop now?

[cassiepriam]

20. I agree, why wouldn't BuschCo rig the elections again?

They have gotten away with it so many times.
Why stop now?

If reptiles take over the planet, they can have all the water they want.
I am out of here, moving on to anywhere else!

[crikkett]

29. Water is going to be the next 'oil' so investing now is smart.

It's because glaciers in S america are melting. They're the peoples' main water source. water privatization is a very big deal there.

If you're a water barron global warming is good for business.

[cassiepriam]

31. I see, Bush moving on to the next con game. Now that he has

the world's oil sewn up, he can nab all the water.
Once the oil mafia corners the water market,
they can control the price of water like they
have done with gas.

I think once they do that, they should move onto air rights.
Make us pay for every breath we take.