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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 04:40 PM
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Message from Grandfather Cirilo of the Maya on 2012
http://www.shiftoftheages.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcaez8jn2Zg

and

Good day Vibe Tribe,

Below is an announcement that just went out about the 2012 movie and the Shift of the Ages new video clip about 2012 by Grandfather Cirilo of the Maya, whom we have supported over the years. It is vitally important that our vibe of hope and unity offsets the fear and hopelessness that is being passed as entertainment in the form of the 2012 disaster movie. If you have the time to support this most important project please do. Please click through to the Shift of the Ages site via the banner on the Common Passion home page.

Thank you!

Joseph R Giove
Executive Director
www.CommonPassion.org
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 05:15 PM
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1. We have to break America of its adrenaline addiction.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 05:33 PM
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2. Yes, we do. I often wonder what the road to that is.
I mean, is that a place where each person is going to have to find themselves : in a frame of mind and spirit where they are completely drained and tired of the drama? Or is it a turning point that can be reached en masse? Maybe that's part of what the Shift is about..and we just need to be patient? I don't know.

I hope and partially believe that the 2012 movie won't do as well as they think it will. But that could be a vain hope.

I've thought about this a lot, and never come up with a good solution. It seems to be too big for me, lol.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 07:11 PM
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4. Junk food
I think of action movies as mental junk food; people gorge on them at first, but then get nauseated and walk away from them. That usually is illustrated by the big opening weekends and then a severe drop in the numbers until each action movie goes quietly to video. I do hope 2012 follows the same trajectory.

I'm just sick of movies being described as a "wild ride"--to me, that means lots of loud explosions and not much else--all style, no substance--and to me, that means stay away! :)
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 06:48 PM
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11. I actually still like the occastional action movie but only if it has a decent plot
acting, etc not just a bunch of explosions for the sake of explosions. Unfortunately this looks to be another one of the latter plus the added insult of catastrophobia inducing fear mongering. ick. now I suppose people *could* use this or similar disaster movies as a way of feeling and releasing fear but I doubt many will. I am not planning on seeing this movie. I already did my end of the world phobia fear-release with Battlestar Galactica.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 02:27 PM
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8. Hmm, that might be a tad difficult to do
when you consider the marketing strategies of such industries as vehicles, theme parks and video games ;)

I suppose if you were one of the big pharmaceuticals and could somehow create a pill that counteracted the effects of adrenalin and successfully market it to a gullible public, then you'd have something :D

Yeah, I'm a cynic when it comes to the American public :P
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 02:36 PM
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9. You're a realist. As others have stated in this thread, fear is the defacto standard.
Edited on Sat Nov-14-09 02:56 PM by Fire Walk With Me
I note that fear, being the opposite of love, is one of the first things bubbling up in everyone as the Shift increases. I have in the past caused fear in others to keep them at a distance (I am horrifically sensitive with nearly no boundaries, and saying "no" to people only causes them to jab at me all the more fiercely, "welcome to Bizzarro World"!), and their fear is steadily increasing, even though I am past that sort of behaviour and planning nothing other than my own recovery (and a satisfactory distance from those who choose fear, and to act on it). It is to shrug. Perception is reality, unfortunately, and we may expect increasing fear, and people acting out on fear, as it either clears or erupts in each and every one of us.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 08:45 AM
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16. Break out the tin foil hats
Dots are connecting.
A friend recently forwarded me a page of fun filled facts about coffee.One of the facts was how caffiene plays a part in the bodys release of adrenaline.

Anyone noticed how many coffee houses there are out there?
Why the sudden fascination with drinking coffee 24/7 the last decade or so?
The rise of corporate coffee chains?

I think that the PTB may have slipped a mickey to the people.

I think I may start cutting caffiene out of my diet.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 06:56 PM
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3. I agree, it could be an addiction...
as I have been thinking about my mother's paranoid thoughts - she always shocks me with comments, I can not even fathom, where in the wildest dreams, she's getting these thoughts. I had a discussion with the alternative doctor friend, and it seems some people feel comfort being in a state of worry and fear, because that is what they know best. The drama associated with it, such as victim mentality is an easy route out of taking your own future into your own hands. I believe it takes enormous strength and courage to get out of that state of mind.
And much of the past history of society, as we often discuss in the energy shift, was fear-based.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 07:14 PM
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5. Matthew talks about this a lot
Humans' addiction to fear, being programmed to fear asbolutely everything in life and expect the worst. I remember being like that--fearing EVERYthing seen and unseen, all the time. It was exhausting, and it left little time for anything else, like creative thought, and certainly kept me from daring to do anything new in my life.

That reminds me--it should be time for another Matthew message soon, right?
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 07:27 PM
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6. Perhaps he gives some insight into this
should there be a new post.

Yes it is absolutely paralyzing.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 07:31 AM
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14. oh lord, i cannot tell you how often people tell me to fear the crime rate lately.
my folks are reading the police blotter regularly lately, so they see impending robberies and assaults wherever they turn. they tell me i should be afraid when i go outside and they hardly step out at all anymore. well of course you are going to think crime is happening everywhere if all you read daily is the police blotter and watch the crimes from the local news. turn that shit off! use your own eyes and ears! are people being mugged by toddlers at the local Safeway, oil drums afire in street intersections, with prostitutes pole dancing the street lights. and gang bangers astride parked cars shooting off sub-machine guns from each arm? no? but it sure sounds like it when you tell me i should fear the suburbs 'cuz someone might steal my sneakers. craziness.

lord almighty, it's like our very own lives aren't real unless its on TV or in print.

people really need to watch Network the movie again. as Beale more or less said, "You're the reality! We're nothing but the goddamn fiction!"
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-13-09 10:17 PM
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7. I have noticed this since
coming back from a long period overseas. America is just so juvenile and reactionary compared to let's say, the EU. Meanwhile Europeans are searching for ways to survive the coming century in environmentally sound ways and we just want to watch these ridiculous movies about blowing shit to smithereens, or buy, buy, buy anything and everything. It really makes me :puke:

FFS, what happened to intelligent life here?
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 07:17 AM
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13. Oh my!
That sounds so wonderful - people looking clearly at problems and thinking things through instead of, as you say, being juvenile and reactive.

I do not know the answer to your question - I wish I did. It's hard to have hope for this country's future when the masses are so hooked on denial and the meme of "USA! USA! We're number one! We're always right!"
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 07:53 PM
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12. Americans are addicted to fear porn...
and unfortunately "they" (whoever they all are and I believe they come in many forms from gov't to corporate interests) sure are ramping it up bigtime these days...from swine flu to the dollar crashing to 2012. Very hard to get away from it, isn't it?

I have to remember to take big deep slow breaths and let all the fear & tension out.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 08:20 AM
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15. fear porn....

That description is spot on for this country.

Unfortunately. :(

:grouphug:

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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-14-09 05:07 PM
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10. Right on...
I look forward to reading more of this and seeing more of the videos as well...bookmarked for later consumption!

right now, so much to do, so little TIME (for a freaking ILLUSION, it sure has quite a grip!) ...and wonder if the busy-bee addiction is part of the collective problem, too...of being unable to really LOOK at our stuff because there is this impending issue of "stuff to DO!"
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 06:51 AM
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17. FirstLight,
I think you have hit the nail on the head.

Too many times, when working on Single Payer Health Care, I had professionals in support of HR 676 tell me that the "busy work" we are all doing helps keep us distracted from the real issues. It was quite telling.

I hope you're feeling better. :hug:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 07:03 AM
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18. I've been saying that for years.....

My daughter is 16, and ever since she was little I noticed all these "soccer moms" scheduling play dates out the wazoo, staying busy, busy, busy.

But it wasn't NECESSARY busy (then again, I suppose that's subjective ;)). They felt they had to have their kids DOING something every single minute, which meant THEY had to be doing something every single minute.

No time to think. No time to feel.

Which is exactly what most people prefer despite their protests of being busy.

I'm really glad Taylor and I didn't go down that path. Unfortunately, now that she's a teen, she's caught up in the need to be DOING something social nonstop, but hopefully the more calm foundation in her younger years will serve her well in some way. I stay extremely busy with work, but it's the type of work that still allows thinking and feeling; in fact, it sometimes triggers TOO much thinking and feeling.

I'd like to shut my brain down for a while and sit in darkness.

:)

Yes, I hope you're feeling better, too, FirstLight.

:grouphug:

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