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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 07:59 PM
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Search for alien life put on hold
By Mark Milian, CNN
April 25, 2011 7:55 p.m. EDT

(CNN) -- Interstellar radio has lost one of its most avid and high-profile listeners.

A collection of sophisticated radio telescopes in California that scan the heavens for extraterrestrial signals has suspended operations because of lack of funding, a spokeswoman said Monday.

The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Institute operates the Allen Telescope Array, the field of dish-like scopes some 300 miles north of San Francisco. The telescopes are a joint effort of SETI and University of California-Berkeley's Radio Astronomy Lab and have been funded largely by Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, who donated more than $25 million to the project.

A state budget crisis and reduced federal dollars have choked the project of funding, said Karen Randall, SETI's director of special projects. SETI put the Allen Telescope Array on hold a week ago -- a situation publicly revealed by Franck Marchis, a principal investigator for SETI who doesn't work on the affected project, on his blog.+

http://us.cnn.com/2011/TECH/innovation/04/25/seti/index.html?hpt=C1


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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:03 PM
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1. They can point them at the republican side of the house and just use flashlight
batteries.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:17 PM
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2. SETI is money better spent.
There are other projects that could actually contribute to our understanding of the universe.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:36 AM
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6. Exactly. Why invest in SETI when you can invest in a new class of drone aircraft
or Laser Cannon?
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 12:04 PM
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9. Or, why invest in SETI when We could invest in particle accelerator research.
Or invest in stem-cell research.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 09:10 PM
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3. "We are sorry, this telescope is no longer in service...
if you would like to make first contact with the human species, please try again."
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 11:35 PM
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4. Another battle lost in the war on science.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:10 AM
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5. Well, we have more important issues to deal with.
Maybe we're alone in the Universe, maybe not. Feh. Won't add to any banker's bailout bonus, so it's obviously irrelevant.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:46 AM
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7. Any human endeavor which does not turn an immediate buck is clearly a waste of time. Profit! Profit!
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:12 PM
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10. SETI is an endeavor unlikely to yield any sort of benefit.
Best case SETI scenario:

Transmissions detected that unequivocally prove extra-terrestrial intelligence.

What next? We know definitively that we're not alone, but there would be no way to make first contact, no way to signal back, and nothing of any real value gained.

There are current scientific endeavors that would be a much better use of the same money.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:30 PM
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11. Again, that's a narrow view of "value." The value of knowledge is intrinisic, not quid pro quo.

... and I doubt the cost couldn't be covered by canceled a couple of Predator strikes per week, say.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 01:49 PM
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12. This has nothing to do with military spending.
SETI's funding is almost exclusively private.

Maybe you could elaborate on the value of SETI? Knowledge does have intrinsic value, but if that knowledge can't be applied to anything else, what value does it have? Knowing that extra-terrestrial intelligence exists is about as useful as knowing who won the MLB 1985 All-Star game.

Is knowing for the sake of knowing worth the effort?
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 02:21 PM
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13. If you have to ask the question, we will never agree on the answer.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 10:52 AM
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8. We've already found alien life on earth...


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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 02:09 PM
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14. Great so one of the few things that could possibly lead to humanity pulling its
head out of its own ass has been shut down. Ug. Surely Paul Allen could fund the operations himself?
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Sadena Meti Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:27 AM
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15. Just work on the data we have
With the SETI@Home project, it will take at least 10-15 years to go though all the data already collected. I'm sure funding can be acquired in the time frame.

Besides what we really need is a Southern Hemisphere scan, not more Northern Hemisphere scans.
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