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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 06:36 PM
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Omega threes by prescription only, what a crock of bs, as if all
the omega threes that have been PRESCRIBED to people in Europe who have had a heart attack came from this company and only people who have received their product achieved protection/success/prevention. I call bs on this "pharmaceutical grade" omega three scam.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 06:40 PM
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1. the new panacea
= Omega 3. Crock of shit I agree!

Prescription for this now? :rofl:

:kick:

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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 07:27 PM
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8. I don't know whether it was the oil or the vitamin D in them...
...but I noticed a mild energy boost and slightly better digestion after starting to take oil caps.

Lord knows I need to suppliment D -- no sun or milk in my daily routines.

I don't know why fish oil is winning the market versus flaxseed/hempseed, but whatever, I'm a believer...
not that it's a panacea but that it's a good supplement to take, at least for me. I'm no pill hog either:
one ester-C and oil caps is all I take, not even a multi-vitamin. Tried other stuff, didn't notice any
effect.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 06:41 PM
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2. Well, you do want it to be safe, don't you? "only people who have receeved their product..."
"achieved protection/success/prevention"? What? No one who did not receive a product had protection, success, prevention?

Damn Big Vita anyway!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 06:47 PM
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3. I know you can read I'm just not sure you understand what
you read.



In Europe It’s Fish Oil After Heart Attacks, but Not in U.S.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/03/health/03fish.html

By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL
Published: October 3, 2006
ROME — Every patient in the cardiac care unit at the San Filippo Neri Hospital who survives a heart attack goes home with a prescription for purified fish oil, or omega-3 fatty acids.


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“It is clearly recommended in international guidelines,” said Dr. Massimo Santini, the hospital’s chief of cardiology, who added that it would be considered tantamount to malpractice in Italy to omit the drug.

In a large number of studies, prescription fish oil has been shown to improve survival after heart attacks and to reduce fatal heart rhythms. The American College of Cardiology recently strengthened its position on the medical benefit of fish oil, although some critics say that studies have not defined the magnitude of the effect.

But in the United States, heart attack victims are not generally given omega-3 fatty acids, even as they are routinely offered more expensive and invasive treatments, like pills to lower cholesterol or implantable defibrillators. Prescription fish oil, sold under the brand name Omacor, is not even approved by the Food and Drug Administration for use in heart patients.

“Most cardiologists here are not giving omega-3’s even though the data supports it — there’s a real disconnect,” said Dr. Terry Jacobson, a preventive cardiologist at Emory University in Atlanta. “They have been very slow to incorporate the therapy.”

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 06:55 PM
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4. Thank you for posting a link that explains what you were talking about.
This is from 2006
"In a large number of studies, prescription fish oil has been shown to improve survival after heart attacks and to reduce fatal heart rhythms. The American College of Cardiology recently strengthened its position on the medical benefit of fish oil, although some critics say that studies have not defined the magnitude of the effect."

Are they doing studies on it to fill in the knowledge gaps? Have you more info since 2006 when this article was printed?

"Because prescription fish oil is not licensed to prevent heart disease in the United States, drug companies may not legally promote it for that purpose at conferences, in doctors’ offices, to patients or even on the Internet."

Then there are articles like this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1294151/Millions-swear-fish-oil-pills-experts-say-theyre-waste-money--whos-right.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Are omega-3 fatty acids vital for our health or simply today's version of snake oil? Over the past few years we've read of the fantastic benefits of omega-3s, found in fish oils.

Last week scientists reported that women who take fish oil supplements reduce their risk of breast cancer by a third. But while experts agree omega-3 pills can cut the risk of heart disease and are vital for brain development in the womb, opinion is divided over other benefits.
(clip)Experts agree that supplements could be taken by anyone who has had a heart attack. NICE advises them to get seven grams of omega-3 from fish a week, which means eating four portions.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 07:11 PM
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7. Yeah, that was pretty vague.... muh bad. (hangs head in shame)
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 10:04 PM
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12. I'm taking prescription fish oil
because of low HDL - to try to prevent ever getting to the point of having a heart attack.

In fact, what I'm taking is Lovaza, which I was told used to be called Omacor- so it's the same stuff.

Weird that it isn't standard for heart patients.

My dad had a heart attack in his early 40s and a triple bypass in his early 60s, and he's been on fish oil (not prescription, though) since at least the bypass, if not earlier - he's now 69.

Right now, the only cholesterol meds I'm on are the fish oil and Niaspan - prescription strength niacin. Both for raising HDL and lowering triglycerides, which are my primary problems.

Maybe my doc is just ahead of the curve? :shrug:
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 06:59 PM
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5. My doctor recommended it to me.
Not as a prescription, but just as a personal rec. I can't eat that many portions of fish anyway.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 07:02 PM
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6. I take it too - it helps protect my joints..
at least I think it helps protect my joints.
My girlfriend was asked to take it by her shrink to help w. her depression..
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 03:28 PM
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9. i suspect the problem here is data collection- no company
is going to spend money proving that something you can buy from someone else is good for you. When it comes down to it, why should they? This situation suggests that we need to get the NIH more involved in evaluating vitamins, supplements and herbal medicines.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 05:09 PM
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10. Emory University is studying O-3
Got a friend in final year of med school there.
The effects of o-3 and o-6 are getting a lot of attention these days.According to her,O-6 is really,really good for you if you are a bear planning on hibernating for the winter.
:shrug:
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 06:16 PM
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11. We need Omega 6
but it is so ubiquitous in the American diet that we don't need to supplement it. Our Omega 3 intake, if you don't try to go out of your way to eat it in the US, is usually quite low, hence my doctor's suggestion that I supplement with it years ago. (That + Vitamin D, which I was low on + Baby Aspirin + Prenatal = my vitamin supplementation.)

If you are a vegan or follow a high fish, low meat diet, you may need to supplement with Omega 6 pills. But it's unlikely that most Americans need to.

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wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:23 PM
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13. No more Lovaza


http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/no-more-lovaza.html


That's it: I will NEVER ever write another prescription for Lovaza.

I actually very rarely write a prescription for Lovaza, i.e., prescription fish oil. But this was the last straw.

more...
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