The lies my father's supplement companies told me.....

[HysteryDiagnosis]

Citrical states on the telly, "Citrical is the first company to add genestein to their calcium supplement" this reminds me of One a Day bragging that they have put lutein in theirs, or Centrum Silver bragging that they have put lycopene in theirs. I guess if I made a product and put 2 micrograms of this or that in it I could hoodwink a large portion of the population as well.

Shame on these companies for misleading people into believing their products have anywhere near the amount of antioxidants/co-enzymes/cofactors etc that could render a therapeutic benefit for people who are looking for the truth and finding misleading advertisements and subterfuge.

Genestein has been added to calcium supplements by reputable supplement manufacturers for YEARS... and as far as potency goes, Solotron values are on the left, Centrum is on the right, this is taken from the GNC website, dated October 19, 2000.

Solotron vs. Centrum
Vitamins
10,000 IU Vitamin A 5,000 IU
400 IU Vitamin D 400 IU
30 IU Vitamin E 30 IU
200 mg Vitamin C 60 mg
30 mg Vitamin B-1 1.5 mg
30 mg Vitamin B-2 1.7 mg
30 mg Niacin 20 mg
30 mg Vitamin B-6 2 mg
30 mcg Vitamin B-12 6 mcg
400 mcg Folic Acid 400 mcg
30 mcg Biotin 30 mcg
30 mg Pantothenic Acid 10 mg
25 mcg Vitamin K 25 mcg
Minerals
60 mg Calcium 162 mg
Phosphorus 109 mg
18 mg Iron 18 mg
30 mg Magnesium 100 mg
500 mcg Copper 2 mg
30 mg Zinc 15 mg
5 mg Manganese 3.5 mg
25 mcg Selenium 20 mcg
25 mcg Chromium 65 mcg
25 mcg Molybdenum 160 mcg
30 mg Potassium 80 mg
Nickel 5 mcg
10 mcg Vanadium 10 mcg
10 mcg Silica 2 mg
Tin 10 mcg
150 mcg Iodine 150 mcg
Other Components
Chloride 72 mg
100 mcg Boron 150 mcg
14 mg Choline
30 mcg Inositol
30 mg para-Aminobenzoic Acid
25 mg Citrus Bioflavonoid Complex
5 mg Trimethylglycine
5 mg Green Tea Leaves
500 mcg N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine

[trotsky]

1. Supplement companies lie?

Who knew? :shrug:

[cosmik debris]

2. But that's all in the past now.

Supplement companies now are good public servants who never pay dividends to stockholders because they never make a profit. In fact, they donate much of their product to widows and orphans.

:rofl:

[Orrex]

3. I find this offensive

How can you two fundies criticize the most noble and selfless institution in the history of human civilization forever and ever amen?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

4. What did they say?? I mean, were they yelling or just shouting

softly??

[Why Syzygy]

5. They

were equating your "father's supplements" with ALL supplements. Miss the point entirely per usual.
Nothing to fret.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

6. Oh my, the horror of it all..... not surprised at all. n/t

[Why Syzygy]

7. Yeah, never mind that

Centrum is manufactured by Wyeth, a pharmaceutical company.
Solotron is Not. Who's lying?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

10. Well, Solotron may be good.... foodform tm food supplements

may be better.... amino acid chelates are great, but if people want to eat chemicals I say, let them. Sort of like smoking but not as bad... still we have to carry the additional healthcare costs associated with deceptive advertising in the supplement industry. Not good.

[trotsky]

8. You're missing out on so much.

For instance, with this sentence:

"I guess if I made a product and put 2 micrograms of this or that in it I could hoodwink a large portion of the population as well."

You just perfectly described homeopathy. Well, except for the fact that you'd be lucky if a homeopathic product contained as much as 2 μg of the "active" ingredient.

[cosmik debris]

9. And he is missing the irony

He used to claim that tiny doses of mercury caused autism.

Now he claims that tiny doses are not therapeutic doses.

Suddenly he has seen the light and realized that efficacy IS dose dependent.

Who knows, if he sticks around long enough, he may even give up on his car that runs on water.

:rofl:

[GoneOffShore]

11. Is that the "special" water or just the stuff that comes out of the tap?

:rofl: