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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:06 PM
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No Link Between Measles Vaccine and Autism (ABC/AP report)
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory?id=5720535

"New research further debunks any link between measles vaccine and autism, work that comes as the nation is experiencing a surge in measles cases fueled by children left unvaccinated.

Years of research with the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine, better known as MMR, have concluded that it doesn't cause autism. Still, some parents' fears persist, in part because of one 1998 British study that linked the vaccine with a subgroup of autistic children who also have serious gastrointestinal problems. That study reported that measles virus was lingering in the children's bowels.

Only now have researchers rigorously retested that finding, taking samples of youngsters' intestines to hunt for signs of virus with the most modern genetic technology. There is no evidence that MMR plays any role, the international team — which included researchers who first raised the issue — reported Wednesday."


No need for me to comment.

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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:00 PM
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1. More information
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0003140

Conclusions/Significance
This study provides strong evidence against association of autism with persistent MV RNA in the GI tract or MMR exposure. Autism with GI disturbances is associated with elevated rates of regression in language or other skills and may represent an endophenotype distinct from other ASD.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:41 PM
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2. Good luck with this one
because the scientifically and medically ignorant would rather follow a quack like Wakefield than do the legwork it takes to research what has been studied exhaustively for many years.

First, there has never been thimerosal in the MMR vaccine.

Second, there is no epidemiological link between autism and the MMR vaccine.

Now this study has destroyed their last try at proving cause, that a tiny percentage of children were predisposed to autism upon exposure to one or all of the virus particles in the vaccine, never mind exposure to the whole virus would have had the same effect while exposing them to the complications of the diseases, themselves.

Autism is becoming seen more and more as a congenital defect. That means it is present at birth. Parents of autistic children need to stop blaming themselves for protecting their child's health with vaccines. They had nothing to do with the illness. Coincidence is not cause.

Wakefield is an ass.

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chicagomd Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:15 AM
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12. This study was designed
as an attempt to replicate Wakefield.

To no avail, of course. But what do you expect with zero biologic plausability?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 12:20 AM
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3. recommend again and again and again.
the anti-vaxers lies about pneumonia d ant flu vax in their headlins -- they will lie about this as well.
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 06:10 AM
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4. What?!
But some message board was full of people saying it was so I was sure it was true. :crazy:
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 07:29 AM
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6. Trust your message boards.
Edited on Thu Sep-04-08 07:31 AM by cosmik debris
I'm sure they know better than the shills who did this case-controlled study. Just look at their credentials. Not one of them got their degrees from Google University. And they all work for Merck subsidiaries like:

1 Center for Infection and Immunity, Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University, New York, New York, United States of America,

2 Division of Pediatric Gastroenterology and Nutrition, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts, United States of America,

3 Department of Neurology, Harvard Medical School and Departments of Neurology and Pediatrics and Learning and Developmental Disabilities Evaluation and Rehabilitation Services (LADDERS), Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts, United States of America,

4 Department of Pathology of Harvard Medical School and Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts, United States of America,

5 Measles, Mumps, Rubella, and Herpesvirus Laboratory Branch, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, Georgia, United States of America,

6 Department of Histopathology, Trinity College Dublin, Dublin, Ireland,

7 American Academy of Pediatrics, Elk Grove Village, Illinois, United States of America,

8 National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, Georgia, United States of America


Columbia University? Harvard Med School? Mass. General? What could those people possibly know about medicine or science.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 07:03 AM
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5. K&R n/t
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 07:42 AM
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7. But its better to have the diseases
than teh evul vaccines cause we know MMR isn't REALLY dangerous....:sarcasm:
Oh and K+R btw.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 08:29 AM
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8. Once again, the silence from certain quarters is deafening
That appears to be the typical response when a dearly-held but totally wrong idea gets completely shot down in flames. It would be too much to expect anyone to actually admit they were mistaken, of course.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:55 AM
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11. I think they have quietly given up on autism scares
And now they are concentrating all their efforts on the "sex vaccine".
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:05 AM
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9. Very interesting
One of the big problems with the Wakefield study was complete lack of a control group!
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 10:39 AM
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10. K&R...
for science once again being a shining candle in the darkness.

Sid
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:36 AM
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13. Where are the anti-vaxers?
They should be all over this.

Have they finally given up?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 06:38 PM
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14. kick
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