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romantico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:35 PM
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Ernest Borgnine and Tony Curtis Homophic Slurs on Brokeback Mountain
I am just now hearing about it but can find an actual story. I did a google search and found alot of talk but no actual story. What would Mr.Ethel Merman's late wife have to say about this? Whats also weird is, Tony Curtis's daughter ( Jamie Lee Curtis) is Jake Gyllenhaal's godmother



Actor Ernest Borgnine has been nominated for a Golden Globe in the made for
TV best actor category. Borgnine, along with pal Tony Curtis, led the
Motion Picture Academy's infamous attack on the Gay cowboy movie,
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN in 2006. Borgnine made disparaging comments on the
critically acclaimed film, saying it defamed the late legendary cowboy
icon John Wayne. He also refused even to see BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN, he told
Entertainment Weekly magazine.

Such orchestrated attacks, said BBM's producer James Schamus, were
pivotal in its losing the Best Picture Oscar that year. Borgnine
is nominated for a cable TV movie called A GRANDPA FOR CHRISTMAS.
BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN received four Golden Globe awards, including
Best Dramatic film. Borgnine will be 91 next month

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388795/board/thread/92134045
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:40 PM
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1. What's also weird is, that's the Tony Curtis who was in "Some Like It Hot"
so I guess it's okay to play a crossdresser, as long as it's understood you're really doing it to pick up chicks, just not an actual gay person. :sarcasm:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:44 PM
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2. In what possible universe did "Brokeback Mountain" defame John Wayne?
I guess I'm not a senile old fart, because while I was watching "Brokeback", I didn't think once about John Wayne.
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:55 PM
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3. Speaking of Marion
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:58 PM
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4. Some a**holes never mellow in their old age or become compassionate.
I'll bet Borgnine like Curtis, like Charleston Heston and the NRA, were JERKS, have been JERKS, and will always be JERKS! That generation (Rumsfeld, etc.) must pass away before our world can move forward!
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romantico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:01 PM
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5. I always assumed Tony Curtis was either gay or bi
I thought Tony Curtis was either gay or bi.My gaydar always went off a little around Tony (I'm thinking of the scene with him and Laurence Olivier in Spartacus)not to mention he was interviewed in 'The Celuloid CLoset' and seemd very close to the gay community. This is why I want to make sure this is not a rumor. If its real thats one thing, but I don;t want to put these guys down if its all a lie.
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Jella Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:46 AM
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8. Wow...
I found myself saying just that the other day.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:10 PM
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6. Tony Curtis, The Singer of Songs from Spartacus?
I guess he only eats oysters and not snails?

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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:44 PM
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7. Hah, good one Ian!
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:01 PM
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9. 'John Wayne' (both the man & his legacy) does not own the Western genre....
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:05 PM by LeftinOH
nor the War Movie genre, either. What bullshit.
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HighNoon Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:44 PM
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11. John Wayne
Agreed.

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HighNoon Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:41 PM
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10. John Wayne was only a cowboy in films
John Wayne tried to get everyone in this film blacklisted.

The new documentary INSIDE HIGH NOON

HIGH NOON was hailed upon its release in 1952 as an instant classic. It won several Academy Awards, including one for its legendary star, Gary Cooper. It was named the year's best picture by the New York Film Critics Society. And yet, even though it's high on the American Film Institute's 100 Best Films of the Century, HIGH NOON's respect has been hard won, indeed. Perhaps no other classic film has had such a rocky road as this "simple little western."

Decried by influential auteurist critics and academics, HIGH NOON has been attacked for being untrue to the western genre - read anti-populist; for being "middle-brow" (whatever that might mean); for being social drama hiding behind the western genre - and muddled social drama, at that; for being the most un-American film ever made (courtesy of John Wayne), etc.

However, 56 years after its release, HIGH NOON still powerfully resonates with audiences around the world. When Solidarity needed a universal image to promote democracy and the right to vote in Poland in 1987, they chose Gary Cooper in HIGH NOON, a ballot in his hand rather than a gun. Conservatives and liberals both manage to cite HIGH NOON on the floor of Congress as a metaphor for their competing political ideals. Political cartoonists and headline writers inevitably use HIGH NOON as reference for countless crises. President Eisenhower cited High Noon as his favorite film, as have President Clinton and former Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizuma.

On one hand, HIGH NOON has been attacked for being a conservative, damaging portrait of arrogant male paternalism. On the other hand, HIGH NOON is praised for challenging entrenched notions of gender, for exploring masculine anxiety, masculinity as a construct. Feminist critics and academics are offering intriguing and complex new readings to HIGH NOON.

Example: Amy Fowler (Grace Kelly) is having her new husband, Marshall Will Kane (Cooper), quit his career, leave his town, leave his friends, marry outside his church, and open a store of her choosing (wearing, perhaps, an apron?). Does Will Kane take on the villains at noon as a final gasp of masculine protest, as a declaration of independence from his wife's control?

Ernest Hemingway compared a story's meaning to an iceberg - like the iceberg, 7/8th of which lies hidden beneath the surface, 7/8th of a story's meaning lies beneath the surface.

Carl Foreman's bare-to-the-bones script and Fred Zinnemann's equally spare direction are a perfect film correlative to Hemingway's iceberg theory. This taut, seemingly straightforward little suspense western is complex, multi-layered, and perhaps even more relevant today than when it opened 56 years ago.

www.myspace.com/insidehighnoon
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