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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:20 PM
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Anyone thought of this ?(TSA)..
I am not going to EVER fly again.
The Scanner freaks me out.The "pat down" will trigger my PTSD big time.I might freak out and fight,and that would make it all worse for me.There are people who have suffered child abuse,rape sexual assaults, in various stages of recovery from traumas and some might very well have a meltdown/abreaction/go fight or flight at being groped.

Than there is THIS, issue...
Being a trans guy,will the TSA ass-hats order me to take off my prosthetic down below?? That will not only make me mad as hell but I'd feel humiliated and outed.I'd be paranoid in the airport men's room.
Not all trans-genders can get surgery,they do the best they can. TSA makes sure you get outed either way.FUCK THIS SHIT, It's GOT to STOP..NOW!!!

This could be dangerous or life altering in a bad way for transgendered people, The Scanner or the grope it will be an Instant outing.Maybe an awkward 'splainin to do,for the people that the trans person wanted to not disclose their gender situation to..
If the monsters on the right ,say in secret they want to wipe out us transgendered people,they now have the "proof" to find us out,harass or scapegoat us even worse than we get now. Arrrgh ,If A majority say they think this bullshit makes them feel "safe"..Sure makes me feel NOT SAFE..

And as for deleting the naked images? Hell I'm sure they can save them,how else would they have PROOF a 'terrorist' had some device hidden on their body to get an arrest..
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:23 PM
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1. I bet this Nun is thinking just that
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:29 PM
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3. Don't fuck with the penguin. n/t
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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 07:27 PM
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10. A NUN? WTF WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN THAT?!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:28 PM
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2. All women should wear strap-on prostheses in solidarity.
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 06:31 PM by Ian David

Scan THIS, TSA

Seriously though, this whole thing sucks in SO MANY ways.

And if anyone DOES get through, they will blame "the liberals" if we put a stop to it.

Just like we should rightfully blamed Wal-Mart and The Conservatives if something blows-up in the cargo hold.




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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:29 PM
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4. All very excellent points!!! This crap is getting so far out of control it's
ridiculous. IMO it's preparation for a police state, intimidation until total submission to the ruling authority. Citizens in this country are demeaned more and more each day as the threshold for compliance is lowered by increasing loss of civil rights. Still, too many Americans are asleep at the wheel, many apathetic and unconcerned, as usual, 'till it hits them smack in the nose, then WTF, and then it's too late.

If the R's get fully back in this country in any sense of its former self can be kissed goodbye, they will take it fully over the cliff.





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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:30 PM
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5. If I ever fly again I will be ready for them.
I will pee all over the patter downer. i have a very active bladder and can pee at will.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:32 PM
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6. I was thinking of just keeping a balloon with warm water in my pocket. n/t
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:34 PM
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7. Brings a whole new meaning to being 'Pissed Off' to now 'Pissed On!!!' n/t
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:42 PM
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8. By God,I think you've got it !!!
;-)
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:51 PM
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9. ACLU has a site to document any related issues...
They are especially interested in those that may signal discriminatory practices, including race, gender and transgender.

But, yes, I certainly have considered what horrendous impact this will have on those who have experienced sexual assault, rape, or molestation. It is horrendous to contemplate.
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sgsmith Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 07:54 PM
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11. Scares the hell out of me
Transitioning MtF. The Nude-O-Scope scanner will pick up the breast forms, or the padded bra. Depending on how well things are tucked, it my show male genitalia. Plus, the Nude-O-Scope has the elevated possibility of skin cancer.

So, try the walk thru metal detector - which is guaranteed to get you a grope. So the nice woman grabs my breast forms or padded bra and says to her self WTF? And then she gropes my legs up to crotch and detects a little extra flesh that most women don't have.

I don't see any way of not getting outed, and in a very public location.
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pgodbold Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:46 PM
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12. Wow... This scenario never crossed my mind and I'm so sorry to hear it. I would never fly again
either. Screw the bastards. Hugs to you.

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stopschoolpaddling Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 01:47 AM
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16. I'm ready to fly anytime. Right out of this god damn country...
and never look back. I'm getting sick of this place.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 09:27 PM
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13. It would seem to me that there has to be some way to fix this problem
I honestly believe that the scanners are needed for safety but I do see the problem as well.
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Citizens_United Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 09:41 PM
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14. I agree that the scanners and pat downs are extremely intrusive.
What I am wondering....... how is patting down and scanning every American citizen who decides to fly going to stop the terrorist who got on a plane in Yemen, or some other country that doesn't have scanners, from blowing up a plane once it reaches the US? Maybe I missed something in all the news reports. If someone could clue me in that would be great.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:15 PM
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15. Most countries do have security
but I also think that we have a very limited number of airports taking in flights from the middle east.
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Citizens_United Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:38 PM
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17. All it takes is one
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:55 PM
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18. One possible solution to that problem
would be to build two special airports a mile or two of our coasts (one off of say NC and the other off of say Oregon). All international flights would go to those airports, passengers would be screened using the current proceedures, and then would fly to their US destinations. I definately think that this should be the proceedure for people coming from places with lax or no security.
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