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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:24 AM
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All homosexuals should be stoned to death, says Muslim preacher of hate
All homosexuals should face stoning to death, a Muslim preacher of hate declared yesterday.

Anjem Choudary, the firebrand cleric who wants to see Britain ruled by Sharia law, said such a regime was the only way to fix the country's ills.

Under it, adulterers and homosexuals would be killed by stoning. Asked if that would include anybody - even a Cabinet minister such as Business Secretary Lord Mandelson - Choudary responded with an astonishing diatribe.

He said: 'If a man likes another man, it can happen, but if you go on to fulfil your desire, if it is proved, then there is a punishment to follow. You don't stone to death unless there are four eyewitnesses. It is a very stringent procedure.

'There are some people who are attracted to donkeys but that does not mean it is right.'

Choudary was speaking at a press conference in London arranged by Muslim extremists to justify their protest in Luton last week against soldiers returning home from Iraq.

His incendiary remarks immediately prompted calls for him to be investigated by police. Tory MP Patrick Mercer said: 'These statements show the depravity of this man's beliefs. They must incite hatred and encourage terrorism, and I would encourage the Metropolitan Police to investigate them as rigorously as possible.'

The Rev Sharon Ferguson, chief executive of the Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement, said: 'This is appalling. The police should look very closely at what has been said to see if there is any action they should be taking.'

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1163510/All-homosexuals-stoned-death-says-Muslim-preacher-hate.html

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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:26 AM
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1. Anjem Choudary and his flock of sheep
should be stoned to death, after being pissed on by everybody that wants to toss a rock.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:29 AM
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2. In my opinion,Choudary is inciting violence against people who are doing him and his extremist brand
Edited on Mon Mar-23-09 11:29 AM by Heidi
of religion absolutely no harm. This is hate speech.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:37 AM
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3. I had no idea there was such protocol for stoning....
Four witnesses? You only need 2 to be married....

Anyhoo- 4 people with rocks... Chances are good that I could pick up a few myself to hurl back (not to mention some kicks to the 'nads)!
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:45 AM
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4. Sad, frustrating, and depraved. nt
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:00 PM
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5. Maybe that guy should star in his own snuff film
I'm just sayin'

:shrug:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:00 PM
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6. Is this really news any more? I mean, I'm not saying don't post it,
but I'm just at a loss as to what i'm supposed to say?

"Oh my gosh, you're kidding me!!11?

I think we all know by now how homosexuality is viewed in the Muslim world.






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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 02:15 PM
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11.  we are on the same page - I thought that, too, & wondered which cleric said it this time
Edited on Mon Mar-23-09 02:16 PM by Divine Discontent
what's funny is that he says if 4 eyewitnesses see it then the stoning should happen -

I am an EYEWITNESS to this cleric's homosexual loving of a male donkey's ass, I need three more witnesses to having seen this Chaudary fella doin' the dirty with the donkey to get him stoned.

Anyone else see it? This Chaudary needs stoned!
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:43 PM
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17. I seen it! I seen it! (It sounds better said that way.)
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:02 PM
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7. lovely. just plain lovely.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:05 PM
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8. fundies - the same everywhere
good thing they all hate each other as much as they hate women and gays or they might get even more organized
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 01:00 PM
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9. Not true...some fundies are orders of magnitude more dangerous than others
Quakers are a kind of fundie...they are a threat to no one. Fundie Muslims are a threat to basic civil rights everywhere.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 02:33 PM
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13. I would say there are plenty of fundie christians that are just as much of a threat
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 02:40 PM
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14. When was the last time the Methodists stoned someone?
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 03:06 PM
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15. Nah-- folks just shoot em for supportin libruls...
The result is the same.

Death.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 05:13 PM
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16. The Episcopalians around here are always having receptions with cucumber sandwiches.
That's pretty much the same as stoning people, you know.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 10:40 AM
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22. The Methodist church is fundamentalist? Could've fooled me!
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:02 PM
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19. Fundie Christians are every bit as dangerous, if not more so
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/r10.html

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Epitomizing the Reconstructionist idea of Biblical ''warfare'' is the centrality of capital punishment under Biblical Law. Doctrinal leaders (notably Rushdoony, North, and Bahnsen) call for the death penalty for a wide range of crimes in addition to such contemporary capital crimes as rape, kidnapping, and murder. Death is also the punishment for apostasy (abandonment of the faith), heresy, blasphemy, witchcraft, astrology, adultery, ''sodomy or homosexuality,'' incest, striking a parent, incorrigible juvenile delinquency, and, in the case of women, ''unchastity before marriage.''
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All you have to do is listen to RW hate radio and hear the pure hatred being directed towards homosexuals on a daily basis. Fundie churches preach that homosexuality is an abomination, that gays are causing the "downfall of America". They practically encourage violence against homosexuals.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 11:47 PM
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20. YOu are equating the radical few xtians with the radical majority of muslimis
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 12:13 AM
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21. "Radical majority of Muslims"? - oh really?
Please provide evidence that shows that the "radical majority" of Muslims support stoning for homosexuals, and that this idiot in Britain isn't just a spokesman for a tiny minority?

I have heard FAR MORE hateful vitriol from Christians in this country than I have from Muslims or any other religious group. In THIS country, it is fundamentalist Christians who pose the greater threat, not Muslims. Fundies like Sarah Palin have a far better chance of gaining power in this country and exerting their influence.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 02:02 PM
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10. A religious extremist calls for murder
Color me surprised. :eyes:

But he is using religion as his excuse so, of course, this is acceptable behavior and we must not question it.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 02:22 PM
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12. that happens all too often - people join up with whatever religion they can find that excludes or
calls for the shunning, or in this case killing, of anyone different from them. I can't imagine the fear of Christians in these countries, or even in some places within India. religious extremism by some in the religious world (from supposed believers of Christianity to Muslim to Judaism) is shocking to say the least - and when they involve us Gay people in it, I think, "Oh of course, you have to include the people you're not one of - they're evil and need stopped because they're different!"

I'm surprised humanity has lasted this long. LOL I hope Chaudary gets what he deserves if he chooses to live this life in pure hate!
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:44 PM
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18. I don't approve of hate-speech laws, but I thought that the UK has them. Are "clerics" exempt?
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-24-09 05:00 PM
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23. uptight muslim bigots should be teabagged to death.
BRING IT ON YOU HAIRY ASS BITCHES!!!!!

Seriously - I agree it's hate speech and a call to murder in A WESTERN COUNTRY. This guy needs to be jailed and while I'm not normally for corporal or capital punishment, he should also be publicly teabagged to death.
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