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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:36 PM
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LeBron James!
Edited on Fri May-22-09 10:36 PM by Auggie
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:40 PM
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1. Un-fucking-believable
Edited on Fri May-22-09 10:41 PM by many a good man
Cavs down by 2 with one second left. LeBron gets an inbound pass from Mo, heavily guarded he makes a 3-pointer for the win.

Emm-Vee-Pee all the way!

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edited for bouncies!
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dakota_democrat Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 12:32 AM
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2. Keeps my prediction of Cavs in 5 alive!
Oh, and great shot!
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 12:47 AM
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3. NBA is so far superior to college basketball it's comical
Games like the Bulls/Celtics series or so many of the recent playoff classics basically don't exist in college basketball. Those games get out of hand then the morons insist on abusing the 3 point line, which creates greater disparity more often than not. I bust up when big guys get rebounds then heave it outside in desperation throughout the final minutes. Yeah, that's a fine sport.

The NBA is a perfect blend of physical play in the paint, with 2 point shots dominating but the occasional availability of the 3 pointer from legit range, like tonight at the buzzer.

But as long as you've got the myth of March Madness, the truth seldom gets in the way.

Anyway, Orlando goofed tonight by not guarding the in-bounds pass at ultimate priority. You put your biggest guy there, inches away, and let his wingspan and ferocity disrupt any plans by the offense. It's like football where you attack the line of scrimmage on defense, not read and react. Once you back away and allow a straight pass to find a player's hands, it's a crap shoot and I wasn't surprised at all that Lebron drained it.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 11:54 AM
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4. you post is comical
there was a lot of sloppy play tonight, and in reality most nights. Kind of why in the NBA "everybody makes a run"

NBA gets an unfair rap sure. It's better than folks give it credit for, defense is played, but the offense is just so good, and the refs are so inconsistent in the way they call fouls and of course superstars get too much deference, that in the end, it is very hard to play defense well with those handicaps.

But in college not only do you not have the silly illegal defense rules, but you also have rules the NBA quite frankly could use like the 5 second call, which creates a large variety of ways to play, rewards good defense, and concentrates on schemes over individual ability.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:13 AM
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11. Can't Agree
Refereeing in the college game is no better. So, to suggest that the game is affected by that to a degree not seen in college ball is equally comical.

There are no silly illegal defense rules in the NBA anymore, because zone d is permitted. So, while there are illegal formations, that's no more silly than 3 seconds in the lane. Another comical statement in your post.

The 5 second rule does not reward good defense. It only rewards a trap applied at the right time against a team with small guards. That's situational, having more to do with circumstances than good defensive skills. That doesn't make the game better. And with speed of the NBA game, trying to constantly trap the ball in the 5 second zone would result in dozens of easy baskets as the passes are thrown up over the top.

And, college teams need to concentrate on schemes instead of individual ability because every player is just good enough to play COLLEGE ball.

And, i also question the logic of thinking that a scheme is more important than the players. People like you are the reason why some of these coaches believe themselves to be so important. They have big egos, and you feed it, instead of realizing that the players are always the most important thing.

You criticize someone else's opinion as being comical, but your's is rife with silliness.
GAC
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:30 PM
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25. lol
refereeing in the college game is not star bound, so yes it is better because while it also can be bad it is at least uniformly so and you generally know what to expect. So yeah not comical.

There are silly illegal defense rules because there are in fact illegal formations which is ridiculous. You can play zone, but only kind of. Again, 0 for 2 for you.

The 5 second rule absolutely rewards good defense, does not require a trap (wtf?), does not require "small guards" and it would eliminate one player holding the ball for 20 seconds on offense. It would actually help both defense and offense as it would reward close defense and also reward ball movement. There just a whole lot of 0-fers in that sentence of yours, but I will leave it at 0-3.

Every player is just good enough to play college ball? Like Carmelo Anthony was no doubt. Or Dwayne Wade. Or the vast majority of NBA players. That was so stupid from you I'm going to give you 2 misses for that one. 0-5.

I question someone who thinks that dunks and pretty moves is what basketball is about. I'm going to guess that "professor" is an self-honorary title. You should get your money back.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 04:52 AM
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26. You're still Wrong
Repeating everything doesn't make it right. And i never said anything about dunks. Players are the game. That's true in every game.

Zone defense is zone defense. You understand so little about the game that you are either completely oblivious or willfully obtuse. I'm guessing the former.

Your understanding of the game is nearly zero as your third paragraph clearly states. If you think 5 second zone traps work against teams with big guards or point fowards, then you know as little about the game as it appears. And, it's obvious you've never actually played the game.

Your next paragraph indicates you don't understand how to read English, since your retort is not even CLOSE to what i was talking about. It is so obvious what i meant in my first post, it's not worth trying to correct you. You're just being ridiculous and i'm not interested in helping you be less ridiculous.

Secondly i was a professor of chemistry while you were probably still sucking your thumb. So, shut up about that. And, in later years i taught economics and econometric modeling at the grad level. Things you couldn't possibly understand, couldn't possibly pass, and couldn't possibly absorb. So, shut up about that, you obtuse punk.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 07:48 AM
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27. wow
Edited on Wed May-27-09 07:51 AM by qazplm
internet tough guy. And its pretty clear you dont know shit about the game, but what you do know about is sitting behind a keyboard with cheeto-stained fingers trying to be a bad ass.

Anyone who thinks the five second rule has anything to do with "zone traps" is an absolute idiot. Stick to teaching valence, ions, bonds, and whatever else it is you allegedly teach, I guess. Although, anyone who starts trying to go off about how smart they are on an internet message board is usually dumb as a post. You fit the bill "professor."

And on edit, I'll let you have the last word sparky, you clearly need it more than I do.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 01:22 PM
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5. So he's finally hitting gamewinners in big games, eh?
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 09:00 PM
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6. Well, this one at least
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 07:24 AM
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14. This wasn't the first game winning shot
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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 09:42 AM
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24. Well, when his team has been winning most of their games by 10+...
...he hasn't needed to.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 02:36 PM
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7. Youtube clip here
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 08:21 PM
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8. I can't believe how close the scores were in Cleveland .. Now
I'm thinking the Cavs are going to choke.

And why are there so many Cleveland fans in Orlando?

Are these bandwagon jumpers who just want to root for LeBron?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 10:39 PM
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9. Wow. It could easily be 3-0 Orlando.
What a disgrace.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 05:45 AM
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12. Orlando is going to take the series
*sigh*

Another heartbreak for my hometown
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 06:36 AM
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13. And then the icing on the cake of disappointment will of course
be the fact that L.A. beats Orlando because the Magic don't have the playoff experience and will choke .. just like they did in that one game against Boston. x(

I hope I'm wrong.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 12:19 AM
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10. Delete.
Edited on Mon May-25-09 12:21 AM by Iggo
Just a tad off topic.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:15 AM
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15. FUCK LEBRON JAMES
HOWARD TOTALLY FACED HIM LAST NIGHT. ALL GODDAMN BALL AND THE REF BLOWS THE WHISTLE. call congress right fucking now

seriously the nba is letting james get away with everything. dwight just looks at the king the wrong way and they blow the whistle
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:29 AM
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16. Most people haven't watched many of the Cavs games
During the regular season Lebron was getting brutalized when he went for the basket and he would get no calls. One official even said that one call wasn't made because it didn't alter Lebron's progression to the basket. It's hard to alter a 6'8" 270lb man's progression to the basket but a foul is still a foul.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:44 AM
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17. Also...
The Magic shot 51 free throws and the Cavs shot 35.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:54 AM
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18. I don't watch much NBA during the regular season
it's my least favorite sport by far..

Watching the playoffs now, the Cavs look like a team of Lebron James and a bunch of stiffs. I mean how did they ever get to be 66-16?
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 09:17 AM
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19. It's been amazing
They didn't play like this throughout the season. Many people in Cleveland are wondering what happened to the rest of the team.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 10:17 AM
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20. Because Mo and Delonte used to actually make shots.
You know, except when Cleveland actually NEEDS them to step up. Like NOW, for instance.

Cleveland is behind this series because shots aren't falling and theirs are. It isn't anything Orlando's doing on D that's vexing the Cavs. The Cavs are getting open looks. The Cavs are getting to the line. They simply aren't making them.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:57 PM
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22. This is so true
Mo and Delonte haven't showed up. It's frustrating to see them make all these turnovers and taking bad shots.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 11:05 AM
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21. Uh-oh. Oh no you d'int
:popcorn:

But yea
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 06:52 PM
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23. He didn't lie
What he said was the truth. I'm a longtime Cavs fanatic and don't have a problem with what was said.
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