How can Jesus welcome each child into Heaven?

[Erika]

I posted that a beautiful 22 month old little boy grandson of a co-worker drowned, and died days later.

Today, this very nice person thanked us all for our kindnesses and our prayers, and stated the grandson was now home with Jesus and Jesus was swinging the boy in his arms.

This belief that Jesus could welcome each child in his arms equates to the belief in Santa Clause and the tooth fairy.

How can grown people believe in such garbage?

Are we so afraid that there is no after life that we resort to a belief in utter nonsense?

[JVS]

1. What tripe. The children who go to hell aren't welcomed by Jesus

Shouldn't this be in the Theology forum instead of GD?

[Erika]

5. Why should I post in a theology forum

when I don't believe in this garbage?

I believe it should be general discussion.

I equate Christ welcoming each child with Santa giving each child a present and the tooth fairy paying for each tooth.

[JVS]

8. Because of the content guidelines

Maybe I'm mistaken but this looks like a theology/religion thread, the mods will ultimately decide

[Erika]

13. I'm not a religious person

Why should I post on a religion forum?

[JVS]

15. Since when are the posters of the religion theology forum religious?

Have you ever taken a look around down there? This thread would fit in just fine.

But the subject is what matters in classifying subject, not the poster.

[pnwmom]

97. You can say THAT again.

:D

[Random_Australian]

105. Argh! Evil theist! OH NO!

:)

(NB. I am kidding)

[pnwmom]

110. I told you. We are ALWAYS watching you. Even stalking you.

Just like Santa.

And God.

[Random_Australian]

112. *looks up* *sees gigantic old man sitting on cloud, twirling moustache*

*lightning flickers from finger to finger, and entire galaxies can be seen in His eyes*

R_A: Is that You? Is that really You..............................



................Santa?



O8)

:D

Edit: I CANNOT believe I mispelled that.

[pnwmom]

119. With an imagination like that, just think what you might have

to look forward to. (And I think we'll all need all the imagination we can scrounge up, in the years ahead.)

[Random_Australian]

120. It is my acedemic rigour that will get me a career, but I must admit that

my imagination is very useful in my personal life:)

[JVS]

Why did you post there already anyway if it must be a forum for...

religious people?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=214&topic_id=42067&mesg_id=42067

[Erika]

18. What's your problem?

To me this is a GD not religious issue.

[JVS]

20. Same question for you

It seems this question is R/T topic not a GD topic, IMO

[Erika]

23. IMO it is not. Thanks. n/t

[JVS]

25. You'd probably get more satisfactory responses there.

[LiviaOlivia]

2. Yeah Ericka

you picked the wrong forum.

[JVS]

27. Oh look, someone agrees with me!

[loveable liberal]

3. Yep.

People cope in different ways. Some use religion, others use reason. Those using reason are usually more accepting of peoples' beliefs than the religious. In my opinion of course. Religious people seem to not want to examine their beliefs. Which is fine I guess. But then they get pissed off if someone questions their 'faith'. That is whats really irritating.

[Erika]

12. How can they explain the ability for Christ to welcome each child?

Thousands of children expire each day from sectarian war, lack of nutrition, aids, etc.

The wishful thinking? Much like Muslims believing 72 virgins will be supplied to killers. All folklore and superstition.

[pnwmom]

98. Adult Christians don't believe that Jesus is sitting up in the clouds

wearing a human body. Or, at least, none of the Christians I happen to know. But theoretically, a God-Jesus would be capable of anything, since S/he wouldn't be limited to our familiar four dimensional world.

Can an ant conceive of a human being? Can an ant conceive of the planet Earth? Or the solar system?

No, but that doesn't make the human being less real. Or the planet. Or the solar system.

So we can't conceive of God. We can't fit a God into human terms. But that doesn't prove that God isn't real.

Does it?

[beam me up scottie]

4. Because they can't

bear the reality of their loved ones rotting in the ground?

I dunno.

I think that's why they call it faith.

[Lib Grrrrl]

6. I Think Some People Are

afraid that there is no after life.
Others, perhaps, are afraid there is...and figure...well, no harm in believing, if they're wrong, so what...but at least I got my ass covered in case they are right!

[Occulus]

7. It's not that

They need the afterlife quantified in terms they can understand. The truth is, if there really is an afterlife, it's far, far beyond mere human understanding.

[pnwmom]

99. It seems to me that it's some of the atheists here, like the OP, who

want to see everything measured out and quantified.

As a trying-to-be-Christian, I'm used to everything being rather vague and ambiguous, in a hopeful sort of way.

[Random_Australian]

102. And there is me, the stats bastard.

:) Who manages to do both. (Fascinated by what people do statistically, already proven we have free will (though I have no idea what it actually IS), so I know I can't control (predict) some stuff)

But more than more than happy to let people believe something that comforts them. (Unless that belief, were, for instance, that all telescopes were a lie, when there was a meteor hurtling toward us, but you get the point)

Here's to diversity! :toast::beer:
Here is to respect! :toast::beer:

[pnwmom]

103. And here's to

keeping our senses of humor while we're trekking through all the muck.

:crazy: :think: :crazy:

[Random_Australian]

104. Sure, here is the best way to keep your sense of humour:

:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:

:)

[pnwmom]

111. Thanks, but no thanks. That's way too many calories for me.

[Random_Australian]

116. I don't actually drink, so it is a theoretical notion for me anyway.

But is seemed amuseánt.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

127. I'd only make it to the fourth glass

before I'd be worshipping the porcelain god.

[donheld]

9. Jesus doesn't have time for swinging children

Most of his time is spent talking to Pat (leg press 2000lbs) Robertson :eyes:

[daleo]

11. And fixing football games

For the team that prays hardest.

[pnwmom]

100. LOL!

True enough.

If it worked that way, then the win should go to the team that plays . . . the most lovingly.

Nope. It'll never work.

[TomInTib]

10. Comfort..

Some folks just have a need to feeel better about what has happened that is beyond their control.

Let them seek their comfort where they may.

Let the rest of us deal with it as we will.

To each, our own.

Feet/shoes

[Erika]

17. I am talking about the logic of Christ meeting each child

We have thousands of children dying daily.

Again, is the fear of the finality of death so great, that we resort to Santa Claus and tooth fairy mentality and beliefs?

[pnwmom]

101. Sometimes a life crisis is the crack in the armor through

which a little bit of God may sneak in . . . whether you ask Her, or not.

You won't want to hear this, but I can't help myself. My boyfriend in college sounded just like you. His cynicism was actually good for me, though, because it forced me to reexamine my own beliefs, and come to a more adult faith.

Decades later, we got back in touch and -- guess what? He's a minister now. Who woulda thunk it? Certainly not that Christian-ridiculing boy I knew in college. As they say . . . wonders never cease.

P.S.

I'd be careful not to ask too many questions, if I were you. God seems to especially like people who ask a lot of questions. Someday, S/he might decide to answer yours.

;-)

[Random_Australian]

106. And sometimes it is the opposite. Funny how the mind works.

Except when I say "funny" I mean "breathtakingly fascinating"

[pnwmom]

108. You're right, of course. Tragedy has broken many a person's faith.

At least for a time.

[Random_Australian]

115. The paths we take. Fascinating. Then there is the idea that God made

some of us athiests. (From an atheism in genes thingy) Which would be fascinating again. That is the great thing about mysterious ways, they can be anything!

What is your favourite 'mysterious way' - something that God put there for no apparent reason? (If you believe in God's plan like that, that is)

[pnwmom]

121. Hmmm. . . I'm going to have to think about that, RA.

That IS one of those largish kind of questions, isn't it. But, as a former philosophy major, I think I can come up with an answer. . . in a year, or possibly ten. I'll let you know.

[Random_Australian]

122. Thinking: The Fourth best way to pass the time!

(If the time needs passing)

[Quantess]

14. He's too busy guiding B*sh

Just kidding of course.

[Journeyman]

16. Wouldn't it be nice, though, for this part of their belief to prove true?

I'd love to see my Mom again, to hold and be held by her one more time. It's a wonderful wish, even if it is an illusion.

I was taught -- many years ago -- that the first duty of friendship is to leave your friends to their illusions. And this kindness extends and formulates my political beliefs on religion as well, best exemplified by Thomas Jefferson's maxim: So long as it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg, what do I care what my neighbor believes.

[Erika]

22. Illusions are nice

Everyone loves Santa and the tooth fairy. And religion for a belief there is an afterlife. No one wants to acknowledge when we die, we are dead. Even though logic tells us otherwise.

[pnwmom]

113. Have you ever heard of irrational numbers?

They're very USEFUL. Even though they are so IRRATIONAL.

Mathematicians would hate it if we could only use rational numbers. How boring.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

24. See, that's a much better reply than mine.

I was going to suggest she ask her co-worker. Just march up and say, "I've been thinking about the death of your darling, loving light of your life, and I understand your inexpressible grief and all, but don't you know the beliefs that buoy you in times of unbearable anguish are just garbage?"

But your answer is better.

[Erika]

28. I wouldn't do that but I thought that

At some point we must take on the responsibility/accountability of our actions and that death is real and final. Life is not a dress rehearsal for some other reality.

[beam me up scottie]

33. How do you know that they don't

"take on the responsibility/accountability of (their) actions" ?

I don't know any liberal christians who use their faith to absolve themselves of blame.

Fundies, yes, but not most of the christians on DU.

Why are you picking fights with them?

[pnwmom]

85. Beam me up -- thank you.

Don't think I didn't notice!

[TallahasseeGrannie]

126. No

don't beam her up. We want her right here.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

47. then take responsibility for your certainty

and trot out Santa and the tooth fairy at every opportunity. You may yet save someone from a life of delusion.

I am sure that death is final but, having no proof either way, I am willing to concede I could be wrong. I was wrong once, so I know it's possible.

If someone were to tell me that I must believe in an afterlife, I would mock them till they were in tears. But when I lose a loved one - and I lose more the older I get - and someone tells me "They're in a better place" I just say, "Well, they're not hurting anymore." All they're really saying is "I'd like to help you deal with your loss." All your co-worker was saying was "Don't worry about me, I'm dealing with my loss."

[pnwmom]

86. Hey, I was wrong once, too.

So there are two of us.

[beam me up scottie]

30. Very nice.

:)
If it comforts them and doesn't threaten me, I leave it alone.

There's a reason it's called faith and not "logic".

[Erika]

31. But we have W who is running this country on the fallacy

and our kids are being lost daily.

[beam me up scottie]

34. And?

How does someone's faith threaten you?

[Erika]

36. faith? As in the tooth fairy, Santa, or what?

There is a time for reality. When people die, they die. There is no land of 72 virgins or a Christ waiting to embrace them.

[beam me up scottie]

37. What the fuck?

Atheists don't get any more uppity than me, nor militant when it comes to separation of church and state, but even I don't attack that which comforts my friends.

Leave them alone.

[Erika]

45. The heaven/safety net is getting a little old.

W has used it to the max. When we die, we die. The sugar coating process affects our decisions on life and death matters.

[beam me up scottie]

46. That's not your call.

What is wrong with you tonight?

Is this your way of grieving?

[Erika]

50. Who are you to call me on anything? n/t

[beam me up scottie]

51. Oh, right.

You were just putzing along, minding your own business and BMUS called you out.

:eyes:

Should I give you a pass because you're an atheist?

Not a chance.

You're dead wrong on this.

[Erika]

53. And your role is and why? n/t

[beam me up scottie]

54. I think you're the one who owes an explanation.

I don't attack my friends because they believe in God(s).

[Erika]

55. Ah, where have I attacked?

Please show me. Thanks.

[beam me up scottie]

56. "We need to grow up"

How can grown people believe in such garbage?

Are we so afraid that there is no after life that we resort to a belief in utter nonsense?

At some point we must take on the responsibility/accountability of our actions and that death is real and final. Life is not a dress rehearsal for some other reality.

Am I supposed to believe that you weren't attacking believers because you used "we" instead of "they"?

[Erika]

57. You see an attack in this?

I'd say that is your interpretation, there was nothing personal.

[beam me up scottie]

59. You're telling believers to grow up.

Goddamn right it's an attack.

[Erika]

62. No, it isn't

Fascinating.

[beam me up scottie]

64. What's fascinating is the total lack of logic

required to attack believers for lacking logic.

Oh, wait.

That's hypocrisy.

My bad.

[Erika]

67. Please show me your logic in an afterlife.

There are several versions ranging from the 72 virgins to St. Peter. Thanks.

[beam me up scottie]

68. Show me where I claimed there was logic in an afterlife.

Thanks.

[Erika]

71. Your post #64. n/t

[beam me up scottie]

72. Point it out.

beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-09-06 02:24 AM
Response to Reply #62
64. What's fascinating is the total lack of logic


required to attack believers for lacking logic.

Oh, wait.

That's hypocrisy.

My bad.

[Random_Australian]

125. Game, set & match. Well played Bmus, and another fine victory.

[pnwmom]

88. Hi again, Beam me up.

Just wanted to mention that I posted something below. It's way down there, #87, in case you're curious.

It probably will sound like garbage to some, but it's what I could come up with. Not trying to convince anyone of anything, just trying to describe a different way of seeing things.

Anyway, have a nice day!

[bananas]

83. I think you're right.

Something going on below the surface.

[Jara sang]

19. Most peoples concepts of heaven are "Angels playing harps on clouds"

[pnwmom]

89. Most children's, probably. Not necessarily most adults.

Most adults -- even most adult Christians -- would find that boring. And the idea of eternity, terrifying.

[Freedom_Aflaim]

21. Posts like these

Make me question why I stay here.

sigh.

[Erika]

26. Out of curiousity, Why? n/t

[Random_Australian]

107. I think the point is that your post does not add anything to the debate,

quite the opposite in fact.

[godhatesrepublicans]

29. Jesus has great time management skills.

[Erika]

32. So does Santa. Think of all those presents he delivers

in such a short time frame. Miraculous...Must be devinely inspired.

[davepc]

35. look at how intellectually superior you are

[JVS]

39. The OP question is inferior to the "Can god make a burrito so hot...

that he can't eat it?" argument. At least the burrito question involves paradox. If one is to believe in this god, and that this god created the universe, died, came back to life, and both omnipotent and omniscient, then the issue of how the god would manage to meet so many dead kids becomes a non issue. Or would a religion where heaven has a waiting-room to see jesus some how make more sense.

[Erika]

41. Why would you say such a thing?

Where are you coming from?

If I cannot find the logic to believe in Christ or an afterlife, how do you translate that into intellectually superior?

Maybe you need to ask yourself a few questions.

[pnwmom]

114. Saying that religious people need to grow up IS a bit condescending.

Don't you think?

[Crunchy Frog]

38. If it gives her comfort to believe that

why the hell should anyone have a problem with it? I mean, if she were going around slaughtering babies so that they could be with Jesus, then yes, it would be a problem but otherwise I don't understand why it should concern you or anybody else.

Aren't there worthier things in the world to get upset about? I personally get more upset at the thought of children dying than I do at thought of people telling themselves harmless stories to comfort themselves over dead children.

[renate]

42. thank you

:applause:

[Erika]

43. We need to accept the finality of death and alter our actions.

It should not be that Christ/Heaven exists as a safety net for our wrong actions/decisions to salve our consciences.

In the case of accidents, so be it there also.

We need to grow up.

[Crunchy Frog]

49. If it's that important, tell it to her.

I have neither the ability nor the inclination to alter the way your co-worker chooses to deal with the death of her grandchild. Since it's obviously so important to you, why don't you have a go at it and then report back here about your success.

I really don't understand what you hope to accomplish by whining about it on here. Why don't you do something about it if it's so important?

On another note; just as you think we need to accept the finality of death, I think it's important that we accept the fact that none of us has either the right, or the capacity, to dictate what goes on in another person's mind. I find the fact that you seem to want to do so to be vastly more disturbing than the fact that your coworker thinks her grandson is with Jesus.

[Erika]

52. I would not burst the bubble of my co-workers faith

I have said that. I came here for honest discussion about the reality of existence of heaven and Christ.

[Crunchy Frog]

58. Why not?

You said "We need to accept the finality of death and alter our actions." She's the one having the problem with that, not anyone here. Maybe you're the one who needs to take the personal responsibility of addressing a problem where you see it, rather than just whining about it on a message board. I'm not the one to address it because I don't see it as a problem. There's no possible way that you will manage to persuade me that it's a problem so debating it with me is really kind of pointless.

[Erika]

60. If you don't see it as a problem, why did you address it?

Critical thinking skills?

[Crunchy Frog]

70. Um, I have a problem with you, hence I am addressing you

on this thread. I'm merely suggesting that you do the same thing with the person that you have a problem with.

I will shut up now, as I will simply become too obnoxious if I continue to respond. I hope you've gotten the validation you were seeking with this little thread of yours.

[Erika]

73. My "thread" was about the existence of Christ and Heaven

Validation was not a concern. Input was. Thank you. I have "no problem" with any person.

[Nicole]

63. Who are you to decide that?

Guess what? You don't get to choose how other people grieve and what they accept or reject about death's finality.

Someone needs to grow up for sure.

[Erika]

69. You haven't followed my posts

have you?

[Nicole]

78. Yes, I did

I was replying to this post

"We need to accept the finality of death and alter our actions."

You don't get to decide that for anyone except yourself. I was just curious as to why you thought you did. If you don't want to answer that then don't.

How you got that I didn't follow your posts out of that is beyond me.

[pnwmom]

94. You may "need" to. But I don't need to.

I choose to believe . . . otherwise.

[Behind the Aegis]

40. Why does it matter?

Was the nice person trying to convert you? If not, why interfere with his/her grief process?

[beam me up scottie]

44. Oh for fuck's sake.

Now we'll get treated to a half dozen or so "persecuted christian" threads attacking atheists in retaliation for this.

[Erika]

48. Maybe Christ will interfere and lift them up? n/t

[greyl]

66. Best smiley ever! ;) nt

[varkam]

76. "Those mean old atheists...

want to interfere with our grieving! Let's get 'em!"

[pnwmom]

90. Yes! We know what you are thinking. Just like Santa Claus.

O8)

[TomInTib]

61. Erika, I do not know if you have experienced the death of

someone very close to you, but I can tell you that it is an experience that turns you around mentally, physically and even - perhaps - spiritually in ways that you could never anticipate.

This is MsTomInTib here (Tomintib has asked that I issue a disclaimer). I have lost a husband and two subsequent lovers in less that two years (don't ask) and so I know very well about love and loss and death.

And yet, I have never experienced the loss of a child, which is its own particular anguish. But please do not judge your friend for her idea of the child "rocking in the arms of Jesus" and equate that with Santa Claus.

Death is it's own "come to Jesus" moment, and - as far as I know, there is no equivalent "come to Santa Claus" moment. Death is the MOST profound experience that we all dread and anticipate. When it comes home to roost, we struggle for sense and understanding in our pain and loss and shock.

One of the greatest gifts I received in my loss was an understanding of the nature of loss, and a fundamental connection with those who had experieced a similar loss, and - in doing so - I became more human...less jaded, and more connected to the fundamental human condition and the primal fear that is inevitable as a result of our own lives and our loves...

[Erika]

65. That is why I would not burst her bubble

She is a sweetheart. I will let her believe the myths as she chooses to do so.

I did not come here to attack anyone. I will tell you that any religion's beliefs in an afterlife cannot be proven by logic.

[TomInTib]

74. Live long...and life might could alter your prism...

and the Santa Claus analogies might fall away in the shades of gray as the calendar pages turn ever faster...

Take care, Erika...I am down apiece that long road...further than I ever expected to find myself at this fairly tender age...it can happen in the blink of an eye.

(MsTominTib)

[pnwmom]

92. Thank you, MsTominTib, for your moving post.

I wish you peace and joy on the path you're traveling now.

[NMMNG]

75. Are you asking these questions because you really don't know the answers,

Or because you want to attack people's beliefs?


:popcorn:

[Erika]

77. Why is your question so defensive?

I have made it very clear that my question was the logic of an afterlife and the belief in religion as part of it. There have been no attacks.

[NMMNG]

79. I'm an atheist

Therefore I am not in a defensive position in this matter.

I'll rephrase the question. Do you actually not know the answers to your questions or are you merely trying to make characterizations of peoples' beliefs? :shrug:

[bananas]

81. No attack? "How can grown people believe in such garbage?"

Fuck you.

[varkam]

80. I'm a materialist.

That means I don't believe in an afterlife (not to mention ghosts, spirits, etc). I tend to think that when that 22 month old died, he became extinct. His consciousness was no more. I could, of course, be completely wrong (as could you). It's a hard pill to swallow, to think that when your loved ones die they--for all intents and purposes--become worm food. Nothing more. Nothing less.

When I was younger, I used to like to think that my grandfather who had passed away was looking down on my from heaven. It gave me comfort to know he was still around, somewhere. I think that is rubbish now, but that same thought brings a lot of comfort to a lot of people. It helps people make sense out of seemingly senseless tragedy (although, if you really think about it, belief in God makes such tragedy even more senseless than it is without him).

In short, if that's what they need to think to put that event behind them and heal, I say why not? I will call out Bushco for his attempts to manipulate religion. Hell, I'll even call out religion itself for legitimizing hatred, bigotry and intolerance. But I will not call out individuals who turn to irrational personal beliefs to try to make sense out of a sometimes senseless and tragic existence. That is the epitome of cruelty.

[Quantess]

82. So you know all the answers, huh.

You're here to tell everyone the facts on the mysteries of the unknown, while simultaneously insulting peoples' grieving process. Nice. You are as tactless as a bible-thumper who shouts on the street corners about gays going to hell, IMO.

[Random_Australian]

84. Who says it is garbage? I rather like it. The point of dispelling illusion

is (insert your reason here).

Once I have your reason, we talk some more.

So, why do you want people to know that you believe that this is garbage (in particular, why assign worthlessness to it? On what grounds?)

[pnwmom]

87. If you're serious, and not just trying to prove your superiority to us

small minded, ignorant people of faith, who just can't cope with reality,

I see the idea of being in the arms of Jesus as a kind of metaphor. I can't prove an afterlife, just as you can't prove there isn't one. Because we're not talking about a material world like our own, we're talking about an immaterial one -- one that by definition we cannot, at least now, feel, see, hear, smell, or touch.

What kind of metaphor? This is just me -- I'm not representing other Christians or people of other faiths. And this is just me today -- tomorrow or next month or next year I might think something else.

But today I think about God as being Love. A pure loving force. Something real. Something both within AND outside of us. And my thought is that as we live, we make choices, we become ourselves. We can grow more and more towards love and light, or farther away. When we die -- this is just my thought, again, my metaphor -- I imagine that the good, loving part of us joins with the God who is Love, and the rest . . . is just gone.

So the idea of being held in Jesus's arms could be a metaphor for entering God's love. I'm not saying that an individualized Jesus is running around and picking up each child -- although, who knows, if God is God, S/he could show himself or herself anyway S/he wished to. But I imagine that there is a loving force out there and that, when we die, the part of each of us that is love can join the God of Love.

I suppose that still sounds like Santa Claus and the tooth fairy to you. Don't worry, I'm not trying to convert you. Just giving you an insight into the workings of one adult trying-to- believe-er's mind.

[xchrom]

91. FLAME WARRIORS -- EN GUARDE!

[Random_Australian]

95. Too bloody right. I'll see some arguments & reasons behind attaching

'worthlessness' as implied by 'garbage' to religious beliefs before I give this poster any credibility.

[xchrom]

96. lol -- good burn, dude!

[pnwmom]

93. I don't know a good place to put this post, because I wanted to thank

all the atheists who've shown so much sensitivity today.

Thanks! You are. . . O8) O8) O8)

I'll try to remember this next time I feel like I'm a Christian in a Roman amphitheater.

[Random_Australian]

109. I think that includes me, so thanks, and reciprocated.

:toast::hug:

[pnwmom]

117. Yes, it does, RA.

When I first got here, the theists seemed to be few and far between. I was wondering what I had stepped into. It was a bit of a shock, then, to find all these atheists sticking up for people like me.

:hi:

[Random_Australian]

118. I think, (as in I long suspected and now that appears to be verified)

that the main difference between us, doesn't really exist. There was some big, BIG failures of communication (eg. Santa Claus :blush:), and I still don't know what that rawstory was on about, but we are all good people; after all. It is certainly comforting to know that there are large numbers of sensible people out there.

[pnwmom]

123. Yes it is. In the dark world we seem to be living in,

we need all the sensible people we can find. Even if some of us like to entertain some very peculiar ideas. ;)

[Random_Australian]

124. Peculiar? Like them unicylclists? One wheel indeed.

Bloody heretics.

Or should I call them anti-bicyclists?
O8) I'll be good now. That was just someone I saw in that thread about "we need to get rid og Fod"

[LisaLynne]

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