So I woke up this morning to the news that

[TallahasseeGrannie]

Al Zuchhini is dead. I felt a very firm sense of satisfaction. He was a pimple on the bottom of humanity.

The thing is, my faith values all life. I am against the death penalty. But I was GLAD. Glad the man who held the machete in those beheading videos is dead, smashed beyond recognition.

Now, I am a very mild mannered grannie lady who teaches little children for a living. If I feel this way, is there any hope for humanity? Will we never move past the need for revenge?

If there is a hell, am I going there because I haven't erased the blood lust out of my soul?

I ponder these things ... and I'm still glad he's dead.

[Goblinmonger]

1. Did they make those crazy chocolate brownies out of him?

:rofl: Get it?



Sorry, grannie, I have graded over 150 essays in the past day and a half and am in hyper-editing mode.

edit: fix the link

[TallahasseeGrannie]

2. LOL

zucchini is easier to spell! I just planted ten hills of it this weekend. Given our weather, I should have five foot zucchinis in two weeks. We use them to hit the alligators that try to get on the porch.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. Well, we all die

and I would say that there are many who are glad, either openly or secretly, when someone dies. If it is really bothering you, examine your feelings-why you feel the way you do. Perhaps you will have to change some concepts you have, which is never an easy process. I wish you well.

[havocmom]

4. The body works to cast off that which is diseased

It does so to help what is good in the body to survive. Can a people maintain themselves and allow cancerous members to keep killing? We are a body. A cancer is a cancer.

My personal dogma is that one cannot change nature. One might work to understand it as a means to get closer to the god-head.

[TreasonousBastard]

5. On one level, we all feel that way, as...

if a cancerous tumor were removed.

But, on another level, I posted elsewhere that this is not justice, it is simply the murder of a very bad person. It does nothing to cure the cancer.

In part, we created him by giving him the soil to grow. Then we killed him off like a weed. But, not only is he not just a weed, we haven't done a thing about the conditions that let that weed grow. Justice is not simply killing, but solving the problem.

(This got me into gardening imagery. I too just put a pile of hills-- butternut and sugar squash and muskmelons and canteloupes. If I find honeydews, the garden will be buried in vines.)

[TallahasseeGrannie]

6. I think I'm allowed to hijack this thread since I started it....

but back to the vines in the garden. Around here, we have a huge problem with powdery mildue in the summer, which for us is pretty much from May on. I have read recently that a good natural remedy (as opposed to Ortho Sevin which I don't think is even legal anymore) is milk sprayed on the leaves.

I'm going to try it this year.


T-Grannie

[cosmik debris]

7. I googled it

To control minor infestations, pick off affected plant parts and either compost them in a hot compost pile or bag them tightly and put them in the trash. Research studies in 1999 and 2003 on infected zucchini and winter wheat (respectively) indicated that spraying cow's milk slowed the spread of the disease. To try this at home, mix 1 part milk with 9 parts water and spray the stems and tops of leaves with the solution. Reapply after rain. Spraying leaves with baking soda (1 teaspoon in 1 quart water) raises the pH, creating an inhospitable environment for powdery mildew.

http://www.organicgardening.com/feature/0,7518,s-2-9-894,00.html

[cosmik debris]

8. And another

http://www.pioneerthinking.com/tv-mildew.html

Less than 3 years ago, researchers in South America discovered a new alternative to controlling powdery mildew. Wagner Bettiol, a scientist from Brazil, found that weekly sprays of milk controlled powdery mildew in zucchini just as effectively as synthetic fungicides such as fenarimol or benomyl. Not only was milk found to be effective at controlling the disease, it also acted as a foliar fertilizer, boosting the plant's immune system.

[TreasonousBastard]

12. Milk might work, but...

does zucchini really grow well down there? Most squashes like it up here with the cooler summers.

My unwanted suggestion would be to grow stuff we like that grows easily in our areas, and buy the rest of the stuff in the store.

[greyl]

9. I think it would have been more ethical

to torture him using a truth pill instead of accidentally killing him while trying to kill his spiritual leader with bombs. ;)

[TallahasseeGrannie]

10. But here's the sad thing, Greyl

After seeing that video, I could get behind his torture, too. And I am SO against torture.

I have a long way to go before enlightenment.

[greyl]

13. You're human - don't torture yourself. ;)

Why feel guilt for having a normal human reaction?

(did you happen to see Gore talking about this on Leno? ;) I'm watching the tape right now.)

Jay: It just feels odd for Americans to be revelling in someone death. Even someone as evil as this.

Al: He's a killer, he's a killer.

Jay: Obviously, but you know what I'm saying, it's seems like a weird feeling
You feel like you're becoming one of them. It's an odd feeling.

Al: I understand that, but not in this case (audience laughter) because he's been a bloodthirsty murderer. I'm glad he's dead.

This situation is extremely complicated and I think it's best to avoid trying to summarize and classify our reactions, which is why I'm saving these other half dozen meandering paragraphs for later.

[Proud_Democratt]

11. It will only worsen. We humans still gotta play

the idiotic game of "revenge". This current administration is a prime example of Christian Crusades and how it NEVER brings peace! Do you really think the Christian-Muslim battle is over?

[moobu2]

14. Only thing I have a problem with is

that you know a bunch of women and children were killed in the process. They admitted that at least 1 child, and 1 woman’s body was found in the rubble but I suspect there were a lot more than that.

[Proud_Democratt]

15. Killing is wrong, no matter who it is.

I find it strangely odd that any person of faith can justify murder. I guess "Thou shalt not kill" only applies to what this vendictive society dictates. Peace will not come of this.
Those who uphold such actions are as bad as the murderer. Go ahead....cast another stone against thy neighbor.
Grannie, the feeling of revenge is quite natural. Reacting with murder is morally wrong, no matter what faith you are. That's my opinion, which doesn't seem to matter in this kill, kill, kill country.
Just think what we could have learned from Al Zarkawi. The Christian majority in this country are too narrow-minded to learn.