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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:06 PM Original message |
The existence of god is a scientific question subject to evidence. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Some of the world's leading scientists believe in God. They also |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I've already explained that. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. Yeah, you're the last word on the subject, aren't ya? Let's see |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
74. Credentials? Either the evidence supports me or it does not. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
266. Authority is a bit of a loaded term |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. To whom and to what? |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. There's only one reality. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. There's a different reality for every mind that observes it |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. That is fundamentally untrue. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
62. No, all it shows is that you're a fundamental thinker |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 07:53 AM Response to Reply #62 |
79. It is amazing how rapidly a discussion can go to hell |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #62 |
149. Tell that to your surgeon the next time you are on the operating table. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. There is a different perception of reality for every mind that observes it. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
48. Your prejudice about the perception is in your infusion of the quality of perception |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. "No one knows what the hell is going on -- no one." |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. I thought I did once....but it was only gas. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Sometimes it's swamp gas. You can never be sure. lol n/t |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. There's no way to assess the results |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. No way to determine what's behind the curtain, if anything. We're stuck with not knowing. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. No way we know of. If you're omniscient, then go for it. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. If you're omniscient |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 02:29 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. You know, if you don't want to have an actual exchange of ideas, let's forget this |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #77 |
96. My word games were clearly marked as jokes, but my real question still stands. |
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arKansasJHawk (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 06:54 AM Response to Reply #48 |
78. I'd like a bit of actual discussion ... |
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arKansasJHawk (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Note to self ... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #78 |
146. Good points, that I wish had been answered by someone who says "there is no discernable truth" |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #48 |
80. Bzzt. If a tree falls in the forest it DOES make a sound |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. There's only one reality? Yours? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
63. No, mine! |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
228. There are many realities |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
267. And yet, reality is based on perception... |
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UnrepentantUnitarian (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I'm with you on that. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I don't think so. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. I will agree your argument is limited, but not in the way you suggest. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
147. But it's a 'narrow definition' that over half of humanity claim to believe |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. got halfway through and stop at your evolution presumptions |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. It's the evidence, not an assumption. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. evidence of what, exactly? |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Well, I did not have time for a book. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. That's an assumption, not a proof. |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
9. Depends on the definition of God. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. What other definition is there? |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. operative phrase: "it seems to me". |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. I'm not certain this is true at all. We need to check Sir J.G. Frazer's The Golden Bough. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
14. The road to proof starts with evidence. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. Alright, then discount this evidence. |
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arKansasJHawk (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. The problem with that ... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. The poster said the road has to start with evidence. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #39 |
55. "I simply said that creation could be evidence of a creator god." |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. How would you test that evidence? |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Don't have to, don't want to. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. You did not provide testable evidence. |
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arKansasJHawk (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. "That's not evidence ..." |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. And I missed the point |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:02 AM Response to Reply #32 |
100. Deduction based on false axioms |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. You never heard of the predicate nominative? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Not my native language |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. How about the principle |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Persons personalize |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. You moved the goal posts. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. You made assumption |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. No, you just moved the goal posts. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Sigh |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. You don't get to give orders here. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Sorry, forgot |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. No. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. You could ask |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. And silly to boot! |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #125 |
129. If I amuse you |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #123 |
170. Not to hijack your totally consructive argument with Cosmik, |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #170 |
178. Yes indeed. |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #178 |
192. I'm staying out of this one. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #192 |
194. I have no idea either |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #194 |
208. You can have the last word but you can't have the last laugh |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #192 |
201. This is a good time to have a front row seat. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #201 |
209. Thanks |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #109 |
122. Which paradox? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. That one :) |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. Or, to one who doesn't think about this stuff in human languages, |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. I would never claim |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #128 |
135. Oh yeah, it is important to at least try to interpret what you are doing in english, |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
120. Hah, too easy. That's a null hypothesis problem. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #120 |
126. Hume |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #126 |
134. Pffffft! That just goes to show you - when it comes down to a match between |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:19 AM Response to Reply #134 |
139. A scientist who thinks in terms |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:49 AM Response to Reply #139 |
141. And someone who reads a long argument about words being an approximation |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #141 |
151. Hey, |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #151 |
165. HAH! See, confusing language is bad for conversation! |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #165 |
168. I believe I understood as much |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. Ah, right. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #171 |
179. As I said |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #179 |
206. As a sign of solidarity, I will now type a less comprehensible post, composed entirely of the letter |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #206 |
210. OOOOOOO!!! n/t |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
15. Piffle. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Then such a god would be as unworthy of worship as a Republican |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. that would be your call, employing free will |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I said nothing about its existence |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I stand corrected. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. No way--I'm itchin' for a fight. Let's fight! |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. "that's not an argument, that's merely the gainsaying of everything I say" |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Can't quote verse and chapter, but I hear you! |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
19. You set some pretty narrow definitions of your "conventional god" there, didn't you? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. My thoughts exactly: The OP is defining what is supposed to be un-definable in such a way as to |
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arKansasJHawk (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. I have to say ... |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Read the OP's subject line. |
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arKansasJHawk (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. Subject line mistakes ... |
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Sophree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #56 |
244. The narrow definition of God |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
46. I like that last part of your post best. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
20. The lack of proof (whatever that is) is nothing more, nor less, than the lack of proof (whatever tha |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
28. Stephen Jay Gould: 1 Deep 13 : 0 |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
35. No fingerprints? Huh. Interesting viewpoint. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. "honestly, it's just easier for me to believe that God made it happen" |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. And here I thought I'd get raked over the coals on this. |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known." ~Carl Sagan |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. That is a beautiful quote. |
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Sophree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
245. I see God's fingerprints, too. |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
40. The scientific method |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. To take that idea further, how do you use the scientific method on love? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. FAITH AND LOVE are both just a bunch of neurons firing in the brain. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Not quite the right comparison. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Missing the point. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Ah. Okay then. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:50 AM Response to Reply #64 |
98. Reductionism |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #98 |
101. What a load of crap! |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Next time |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #103 |
105. I was right |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #105 |
107. All you've got |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Every one of your posts in this thread |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. How big of you |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. You seem to be living in a world where |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Not anyone |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Your admission that you are incomprehensible to most people |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #117 |
130. And no denying |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. It's a shame those wiser, smarter, better ones |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #131 |
140. When, where and how |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #140 |
152. Seriously? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. Answers |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. I'm still going with my first impression |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. You are being repetitive |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. I'm just following your lead. n/t |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. So I got me a follower! |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #103 |
216. By the way |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #216 |
220. My metaphysics? |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #220 |
221. You still can't answer the challenge |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #221 |
223. Many differences |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #98 |
136. Whut? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #136 |
142. Thut |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:12 AM Response to Reply #142 |
144. Non-sequitur. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #144 |
148. Discussion would be nice |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #148 |
166. ARgh. Ok, you're definitely a not a scientist then. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #166 |
177. I'd like to think |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #177 |
203. Ahahahahaha! ToE "Theory of Everything", not "Theory of Evolution" |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #203 |
215. What is a strawman |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #215 |
230. The presupposition that all experience is subjective? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #230 |
233. No matter how much you deny |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #233 |
252. Hah! Yes, denial. When people disagree, it is because they cannot handle the truth. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #252 |
257. Sorry |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #257 |
268. Whut? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:45 AM Response to Reply #268 |
270. Supervenience |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 05:59 AM Response to Reply #270 |
274. No, we're not getting anywhere, unless you were using a truly mind-bogglingly stupid version of |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #98 |
160. Your post means nothing to me. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. You said |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. Huh? Since when? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. No one is denying |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. Huh? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #164 |
167. For example: |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #167 |
172. Oh man.....past lives. |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #172 |
175. Sure, why not? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. Past lives and "telepathy" can be perfectly explained by "the classical view". |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #176 |
182. Nope |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #182 |
185. Is you mind open to the possibility that your conclusions are wrong? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #185 |
189. I've done |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #189 |
241. Shit happens? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:55 AM Response to Reply #241 |
246. It's not a conclusion |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #246 |
250. The strongest premise for consistent thinking is "shit happens"? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #250 |
256. I'm not making up my own words |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #256 |
260. I'm not being delusional when you used "anecdotal" to descibre something it isn't |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #260 |
262. Please |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #262 |
264. Anyway you cut it "anecdotal evidence" isn't worth a whole lot |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:49 AM Response to Reply #264 |
271. Sure |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 04:25 AM Response to Reply #271 |
278. It basically does if it cannot be translated into something that can be tested for |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #182 |
197. "If you really are interested in science and empiricism"... |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #197 |
198. Only lowest possible initiation |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #198 |
204. Cult....lol. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #204 |
212. "Cult" |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #172 |
180. Yes, seriously |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. Contradiction in terms |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #181 |
184. Not really |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. Er, no |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #186 |
190. Yes |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #190 |
242. Wait what? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:11 AM Response to Reply #242 |
247. I know |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #247 |
251. Grabbag |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #251 |
258. Then I'm sorry. |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #167 |
173. Ah, paranormal "science" |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #173 |
188. Skeptical is good |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #188 |
243. Heading |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #243 |
248. Please |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #248 |
254. Jesus fuck - at this point I have to ask: show me the math |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #254 |
259. Best math I've seen |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #259 |
263. Again you just seem to be going off on one |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #263 |
272. Huh? |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 04:27 AM Response to Reply #272 |
279. That was a reference to some mathematics? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #243 |
249. more |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #249 |
255. All bets are off |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #255 |
261. Strawman arguments |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 04:29 AM Response to Reply #261 |
280. And what is that suppose to mean exactly? |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #167 |
174. ROFL |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #163 |
218. The only "huge leap of belief" here... |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #218 |
222. Here: |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #222 |
229. Simple to test!? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #229 |
232. OK |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #232 |
235. Needful multiplication of entities, however, is useful. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #235 |
236. Not solipsism |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #236 |
237. No matter how much you play with hyphenated buzzwords... |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #237 |
238. What ever |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #238 |
239. As soon as you start with the premise... |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #239 |
240. If you say so. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #40 |
69. Science is not a body of knowledge |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:54 AM Response to Reply #69 |
99. Consept of "Creator" |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
52. "In the early Earth, it was hot and nasty." |
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thraxis (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
54. Your view is nothing more than the old positivistic view and |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #54 |
85. Explain. EDIT: never mind. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
66. Let me give one response to most of my critics. |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. While you can edit... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
73. Someone said I was being too nebulous. |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
75. I've been wondering |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Thanks. nt |
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beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. Me too. |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
82. "If god were real, his fingerprints would be everywhere." |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. . |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
87. I think you've got the wrong impression of NOMA |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Maybe I did not explain it well, but I did understand that. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Treating religion as science is the clearest mistake of the fundamentalists. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. I'm not treating fundamentalism as the only possible form. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. You say "watered-down." I say, "evolved." |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. I tend to agree with you |
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skepticscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. I always thought that Gould |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. I've found that if you listen to people responding to the questioning of skeptics, |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
91. Untestable speculation is not scientific. |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-08 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
97. Outstanding! |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
132. All signs point to random mutations and natural selection. |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
133. I am a scientist |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. Ooooh! Oooh! I know that one too! It's the test for meaning that gets that one. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:59 AM Response to Reply #137 |
143. There is a difference |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:16 AM Response to Reply #143 |
145. I see those words. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #145 |
150. What I mean |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #150 |
169. Information comprised of variable composition, using variables that have been tested and |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #169 |
191. "accepted by the scientific community" |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #191 |
205. Really? Really really really? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #205 |
225. Theoretical physics |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #225 |
231. Still a non-sequiter. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #231 |
234. I don't counter |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #234 |
253. I realise you don't counter. I'm trying to get you to counter, because otherwise |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 03:11 AM Response to Reply #253 |
273. Countering |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 06:12 AM Response to Reply #273 |
275. Anyway, I'm flying away on holidays so may not talk for a while. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #143 |
158. Are you saying that blurring the border between... |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. No |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #159 |
196. It seems like you're using a lot of excessively obscure language... |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #196 |
199. That's not the idea |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #199 |
214. Expand the notion of "feeling good" to include... |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #214 |
217. You are correct |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #217 |
219. Are you hoping that I won't notice... |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #219 |
224. No |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #137 |
187. The point is |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #187 |
193. Supernatural |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #187 |
202. Hmmmmmm, I half agree, half disagree. |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #133 |
138. That's a big "if". |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #138 |
183. The point is |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #183 |
195. I see nothing of this trap that you speak. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #195 |
200. Let me guess: |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #200 |
213. Your reply to my post seems tangential at best... |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #213 |
226. Tangential |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #213 |
227. Faith |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #227 |
276. A good first step |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 07:09 AM Response to Reply #195 |
207. What they do not get |
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Silent3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #207 |
211. So you're here to tell us what the meaningful dialog... |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #211 |
265. I could not tell |
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Sophree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #183 |
269. You got me thinking about faith, as well. |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-21-08 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
277. Actually, it isn't - Kurt Gödel proved that |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 07:33 AM Response to Reply #277 |
281. That's a total abuse of Gödel's theorems |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
282. All you've proved is that YOU believe in God. |
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