Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Asymmetric Evangelism

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Religion/Theology Donate to DU
 
metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:14 PM
Original message
Asymmetric Evangelism
Bilinda Straight writes about "Killing God" in the latest volume of Current Anthropology. In this case, the "god" was a Kenyan divinity named Nkai. In 1935, an Anglican missionary, Charles Scudder, fired his gun into the cave where Nkai was believed to reside. Nkai was thought to have been vanquished, and the worship of Nkai ended at that site.

Straight also recounts tales of John Williams, a British missionary to Tahiti and the Society Islands. Williams gathered the sacred relics and "gods" of different communities, then publicly humiliated them in his chapel. The "gods" were publicly exposed, hanged, burnt, and possibly shipped back to England as curiosities.

Straight points out that there was a double standard at work in these Christian missions. On one hand, they relied on brute force and sometimes science to demonstrate the invalidity of the religions they opposed. The native gods could not stand up to modern technology, and were therefore defeated. On the other hand, the missionaries simultaneously claimed that their Christian god was above scientific scrutiny.

Nkai was defeated by a rifle shot, but if someone were to physically attack a crucifix or other Christian artifact, Christians would respond that it means nothing; "God is in heaven." On the other hand, when fervent prayers appear to succeed in diverting threatening weather, that is the immanent hand of God. In Christian worship and sacraments, "God is with us." In short, Christian theologians have formulated a god who cannot be assailed by the arguments missionaries use against other divinities. Is this evidence of the superiority of the Christian god, or is the Christian theology of God instead driven by an evangelistic need for superiority?

This type of "asymmetric evangelism" shows up in other scenarios. Perhaps we'll hunt down some examples in the near future.

<http://metapunditedgytheanticlown.blogspot.com/2008/10/asymmetric-evangelism.html>
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:36 AM
Response to Original message
1. I think this is missing the point somewhat.

What Scudder was trying to by firing his gun into a cave was not to construct a logically valid proof that Nkai was nonexistant or vanquished, but to convince the natives - fallible human beings, and almost certainly uneducated, supersitious ones at that - of it, by any means possible.

I very much doubt that his disbelief in Nkai and the gunshot had anything to do with one another.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:16 PM
Response to Original message
2. I don't really see this as a strong case for anything whatsoever.
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 12:17 PM by Occam Bandage
Religious warfare of a sort was common in pre-colonial Polynesian society. Gods were not eternal, immortal, or anything of the sort; they were spirits (often bound to an object or place) that offered protection in exchange for worship, and they were frequently adopted and abandoned. If a tribe defeated another, the losing tribe would often adopt the winner's god (as its victory meant it was more powerful) and exile or destroy the old god.

Christian missionaries of course understood that the Polynesian view of divinity was different than the Western view. They told the Polynesians that the Christian God was mightier than any of the old gods; he resided in Heaven but his power flowed over the entire world. As evidence (and understanding their audience) they demonstrated their military power. A polynesian would be convinced: these foreign visitors had near-godlike ability to build and to destroy; clearly their God must be as powerful as they say He is. A Christian could destroy a native god, and with that same power could destroy an entire native village with a handful of men, suggesting that the vanquished god's protection was indeed worthless against the might of the Christian God. A native could desecrate a crucifix, but yet the Christians would remain just as powerful; their claim that their God resided in the heavens seemed to stand to scrutiny.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr 29th 2024, 02:39 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Religion/Theology Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC