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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:33 PM
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Why is Tweety saying the NH primary results didn't match the *exit * polls?
I can't find anything to that effect, but I've been sick and distracted. Anyone know?

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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:35 PM
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1. here ya go



news orgs are changing their exit polling stats to match results


Sen. Barack Obama: 39%.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/01/exit-poll-obama.html
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:41 PM
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2. Do you know where the info about which precincts
counted by hand and which counted by Diebold comes from?
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:43 PM
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3. yeah theres a breakdown of it on a number of sites...lemme track it down for ya
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:45 PM
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4. heres a little more info
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:50 PM
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7. Muchos gracias ORDag. Great stats. Where did you get them?
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:52 PM
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8. The original chart is from dailykos
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/9/181852/2086

I've been going through and verifying with other sites on the raw data.

like this

obama 39% exit polling
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/01/exit-poll-obama.html

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:08 PM
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11. That Kos link is dead.
Scrubbed?
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:49 PM
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6. I think I got it
scroll down a bit and it identifies which one hand counted.

http://ronrox.com/paulstats.php?party=DEMOCRATS

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:59 PM
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9. Thanks. I'll see if I can find the original source of the breakdown of
counting techniques by township. So far, I've found a txt file on the blackboxvoting site and what's on the ronrox site, but no direct attribution.

I want to track that down, because this is about the only thing that's struck me as potentially interesting about the NH poll discrepancies.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:48 AM
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13. Here is the correct breakdown.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:47 PM
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5. It reminds me of Ohio '04 all over again.
Hand count favored Kerry, electronic count favored Bush.

Not suggesting anything, but it is interesting.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:03 PM
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10. Great graphic where is it from?
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 09:31 PM
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12. At this point I haven't been able to confirm
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 09:40 PM by bleever

anything beyond the fact that this story tracks back to one or maybe two original outlets, being Bev Harris' BBV and a Ron Paul site.

I remain skeptical, but if we can get source material on the vote totals and counting technique by precinct it will be easy to prove or disprove. If the story were annotated in the most basic way, it would be straightforward.


ed: Does mean I'm less informed than Chris Matthews?

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