Howard Dean and the DNC STILL doesn't get it.

[Blue Shark]

I also recieved this email:

I wanted to pass along this explosive report on Republican efforts to disenfranchise voters and suppress Democratic turnout this November.

This is something we have had our eye on for a while, and we're taking unprecedented steps to combat it.

As part of our 50-state strategy, we've organized a nationwide network of trained volunteers and attorneys to assist voters at the polls. We've also launched legal challenges against Republican elections officials who have taken steps to stop eligible voters from participating.

This report makes clear that we need to take our voter protection operation to an even higher level. We have plans in place to do that -- can you contribute today to help us implement them?


So what does this really mean?

They will do the same thing Kerry did in 2004. Remember the 10,000 lawyer-watching, Michael-Moore-Filming, GOTV poll-watching-volunteers? IT DID NO GOOD, DAMNIT!

While all those people watched, witnessed, and filmed, the Black Boxes with secret Proprietary Source Code Flipped votes, dropped votes, undercounted Kerry, and overcounted Bush.

These people need to read Conyers, Kennedy, Palast, and Loo. Right Fucking Now.

while they may be able to stop a few thousand disenfranchisements, they are gonna miss the wholesale vote shift that has been going on during the 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2005 Elections.

It is in the ones and zeros people! We need to get the Ones and flip the Republicans the Zeroes (for a change), but more than anything, we need the number one person entrusted to get Democrats elected to office to GET IT!

Come on Dr. Dean you are not this Dumb.

Let them know what we all know. And for Christ's sake and the sake of our country...do it quickly.

[Blue Shark]

1. BTW...

...the whole Salon article talks about just six states.

...Just SIX states...we should be so lucky.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

2. Amen to that

[LA lady]

3. Poll Watchers have to have a commission!

In the State of Louisiana, a poll watcher has to be a commissioned election officer! You cannot just show up and say "I am a poll watcher" for so and so.
The classes are offered twice a year here and you have to pass a test. You must present your commission to be allowed to observe. (R. S. 18:421)

[Stevepol]

4. I totally agree. It defies belief how these guys can miss the machines.

They just don't want to see it. It would contradict everything they've believed thru their careers, i.e., that the US is a democracy and that right and merit and honesty and ethics and compassion, etc. etc. will always prevail in the long run.

That may be true, in another hundred or thousand years, but before then it demands a real focus on facts and truth. Here the Dems have got PhD's by the busloads giving them the same message: the machines are rigging the elections, the machines can be hacked without any possibility of the fraud being detected, the results are impossible given the exit and pre-election polls, the shifts and discrepancies almost always favor the Repubs and ALWAYS favor the Repubs in critical states, etc. etc.

It's not possible to have more evidence it seems to me unless the Urosevic brothers repent and confess in sackcloth and ashes.

And besides that there's just the principle of the thing: When the vote is counted in total secrecy without any verification of the accuracy of the count, YOU CAN'T HAVE A DEMOCRACY. Our government derives its powers from THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED and you can't have that consent unless the vote is counted fairly and transparently, so voters can feel assured their vote was indeed counted fairly.

It really couldn't be more obvious.

[madfloridian]

5. I am not sure how to say this....

but sometimes you have to give credit when it is due, you have to realize that the party leaders are not tipping their hand about all they are doing, you have be a little common sense.

Sometimes, when you can never satisfy a group, you just back away from them. Maybe the congressional Dems, who are the ones you should be blaming....backed away a long time ago and left it in Howard Dean's lap.

Sometimes you have to stop just blasting and attacking and read a little between the lines.

Many of us stopped working with some groups long ago on voting problems because of the all or nothing nature. There is no middle ground, it is yell and scream, and it is never appreciative of the ones who ARE taking notice.

I have donated to election and voting groups, I have written letters to the editors, good ones, they got printed often. I have quit now because it is never enough.

[Blue Shark]

6. Perhaps you are one of those...

...who thought, after Kerry's stunning and sureal concession, that he was secretly planning to expose the rampant fraud and get his ducks all in a row before he exposed the evil BushCo thieves for what they were (you remember the professional prosecutor route). There was certainly a lot of speculation along those lines here and elsewhere in November and December 2004. Well I gues he is still digging for evidence while ignoring the mountainous dung heap of fraud sitting in his front yard.

...To this day John Forbes Kerry does a tremendous disservice to all Americans when he refuses to publically call the theft of the 2004 election for what it was.

...It is not enough that we think there are some behind the scenes machinations going on. This needs to get stuck into the face of every potential and actual voter in America.

...The fraud is real. It needs *desparately* to be reported that way...STARTING WITH THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP!

[Blue Shark]

7. Everything you have to say madfloridian...

...suggests the use of the graceful art of subtlety.

...Problem is...the Republicans don't do subtle.

...We Dems need to quit showing up at a gun fight with a pointed stick.

[madfloridian]

8. Subtle is good.

I do not think being accused of being subtle is a bad thing at all. Thank you.

If that is the worst said about me here...then I say wonderful.