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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:28 PM
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The Price of not standing up for African Am Voters in Ohio
The Dem Party's failure to make sure "every vote would be counted" as promised, will result in serious consequences. I have been saying this since the '04 election. I've written numerous letters to Dean, the Ohio Dem Party, Kerry, Edwards etc., of course all unanswered. I have stressed the need for Dems to go into the neighborhoods which were adversely effected by long lines, caging challenging and other rovian tactics, and talk to the communities. I have sent articles on the effects of purges in the '04 election and the need to make sure voters are indeed registered. What has been done? nothing.

Today I came across this summary of a meeting:

Wednesday, April 19, 2006
From Ohio2006elections: “Last night I attended a meeting of the 11th Distict Caucus, the political organization of Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, at The Civic in Cleveland Heights, Ohio. I had a number of reasons for going, but a major one was to assess what a politically-connected friend had told me. He said that the simmering feud between certain statewide party leaders (ODP Chairman Chris Redfern and front-running gubernatorial candidate Rep. Ted Strickland in particular) and certain African-American political leaders (especially Tubbs Jones) is getting worse instead of better, and that at this point Tubbs Jones is inclined to “sit this one out,” i.e., to withhold her support from Strickland’s campaign. So, is it that bad?”

“Yes, maybe worse. There is a grievous wound in the Ohio Democratic party, it has been allowed to fester far too long, and some very strong medicine must be applied immediately or the outcome may be a catastrophe in November. Indeed, it may already be too late to heal the wound, but the attempt must be made this instant.” And

“As the meeting started, those on stage included not only Cleveland leaders (Tubbs Jones, Jackson, Senate candidate Rep. Lance T. Mason, and political strategist Arnold Pinckney) but also Mayor of Columbus Mike Coleman and Mayor of Dayton Rhine McLin. (The other two African-American mayors of major Ohio cities, Jay Williams of Youngstown and Marcia Fudge of Warrensville Heights, sent regrets.) There were many rousing and inspiring moments in the generally brief speeches. However, one after another, the speakers included in their remarks the consistent message that the support of African-American voters is not to be taken for granted. Tubbs Jones said, “People want us to vote, we have to get something for our votes.” (Huge applause.) Coleman said, “Democrats can’t take Democrats for granted - we’re going to support those who support us.” (Ditto.) McLin said, “We cannot be turned around or taken for granted in 2006.” (More cheering.) The new executive director of the caucus, whose first name is Greg but whose last name escaped me (it sounded like Grows or Grolls), expressed the message through a metaphor. When a person of great physical beauty walks into the room, the others present ask themselves “yes, but are there brains to go with that body?” He compared the 11th District Caucus to that person with striking physical gifts, citing as the organization’s “DNA” the past and present leadership of Carl and Louis Stokes, Pinckney, and Tubbs Jones. “We can’t let it be asked whether we can take care of our business,” he continued, “We have to project the vision that will keep us energized and focused. That vision is the image of a giant. We are a giant. A giant is in the land, and the giant is coming to take care of business.” And




And for Governor? Tubbs Jones announced that there will be no endorsement in the gubernatorial race.”

<snip>

http://www.ohiohonestelections.org/

A couple of Sunday's ago I watched a local political talk show in Columbus, OH. There was a African American activist on who said that Blackwell will probaly get between 25-30% of the African American vote in Ohio. At first I was appalled that they would consider voting for a man who worked so hard to suppress their vote, but then thought-what have the Democrats done for them? The GOP have given faith based initiative $ to African American Churches but the Dems have stood by and helped deliver faith based voting by not demanding verifiability in elections. They stood in those long lines on the cold rainy November Day to GOTV for the Dems. Did they fight for their votes to be counted?-NO they packed up and went home to wait for the GOP to implode.

THIS SHOULD BE A SERIOUS WAKE-UP CALL TO THE DEMS. GO INTO THE COMMUNITIES AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE! CHECK REGISTRATIONS AND MAKE SURE THE VOTERS HAVEN'T BEEN PURGED. SHOW THEM YOU DON'T TAKE THEIR VOTE FOR GRANTED!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:31 PM
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1. Wake up is right!
To ignore this is to just hand the whole thing away...
(nom)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:36 PM
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2. The entire Ohio Dem party infrastructure was allowed to collapse in 1997
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 12:36 PM by blm
and was kept in a weakened state in 2000, 2002 and 2004. I do not know what the hell Terry MacAuliffe and Clinton were thinking when this was happening.

Gore only lost Ohio because the RNC outorganized the DNC then - MacAuliffe did NOTHING to strengthen the party's infrastructure there, even knowing that it would be the showdown state in 2004.

The Dems on the state election boards should have been the toughest characters that Terry Mac could find in Ohio.

Chairman Dean has his work cut out for him.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:37 PM
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3. The Democratic Party machinery ignores many of us.
They take GLBT groups for granted.
They take Black and Hispanic communities for granted.
They take urban areas for granted.
They take athiests, sceptics and the less than fully religious for granted.

The main selling point seems to be, "Hey, we won't treat you quite as badly as those other guys, so you have no choice but to voice for us."

The Democratic party is clearly the lesser of two evils, by far, but it would be nice to vote for the good guys for a change instead of the lesser evil.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:00 PM
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4. hell, the DNC takes women for granted
Women are 1/2 the population - white males tend 2 vote rethug. If not for ALL women there would be no democratic party.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:02 PM
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6. Very true
I can't believe I left that out of my post.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:01 PM
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5. I believe it was a strategic error not to choose a person of color for
Lt Gov. Lee Fisher is a good man but he will do little to GOTV in the disenfranchised Af Am community.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:22 PM
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7. Strickland's ad with the Bible turned me off.
I will not vote for Strickland.

I will not vote for Blackwell for the vote fraud.

I guess I don't vote for governor.

Tubbs-Jones is my congressperson. She was handed the seat by Lou Stokes when he retired. She will do nothing for a white person. 11th District Caucus Meetings are a joke.

Arnold Pinkney is an ex con.

There is no organized Democratic party in Ohio that I can see.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 01:41 PM
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8. Right on, mod mom!
:kick:
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 02:56 PM
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9. Only well informed lefties know what Blackwell did to suppress the AA vote
That is why Blackwell is the candidate we want to be up against. We can smear him among African Americans and count on racist whites to not vote for him. Steele in Baltimore is being reported to lose white GOP voters to the dem candidate. Article was on WaPo just a few days ago.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 03:31 PM
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10. Making sure every vote counts and that every voter gets to vote
(i.e., isn't purged) is critically important in Ohio.

Failure to prevent election fraud in Ohio in 2004 is probably why * is pResident today.

This cuts across racial lines and should be something that all Democrats and progressives/liberals, and anyone who cares about democracy is concerned about.

I can't understand why people would not be greatly concerned about this.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 03:47 PM
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12. It's beyond me, TFC. The Dems had record turnout in inner city precinct w
huge increases in new voter registrations. Perhaps if they spent more time on their base instead of wooing moderate republicans, and made sure their votes counted they could actually claim victory instead of being victors without a prize.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:13 PM
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15. They'll also have to have a voting machine.

And that voting machine will have to be working.

Two very big ifs.



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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 03:40 PM
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11. K & R -- Wake up Democratic Party!!!
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:36 PM
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13. But, but, but ... Blackwell focused his disenfranchisement on Dem. areas
and therefore widely suppressed the African American vote. Why wouldn't they just automatically support anyone who opposed him?

We are currently stuck with a two-(viable)-party system. Our choice is too often between "bad" and "worse".
Why wouldn't Dems of Ohio do everything possible to keep Blackwell out of higher office?

:shrug:
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:31 PM
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14. Not tryin' to be snarky here, but...
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 07:37 PM by liam_laddie
Doesn't the articulate and funny Mark Mallory of Cincinnati qualify as an A-A mayor
of a major Ohio city? Was Mark not- or dis-invited? I mean, is this the attitude of the
NE OH Dem "power base?" Sorta kidding there, but there seem to be these internal
power struggles, as referenced in the OP, all over, often within the A-A community.
What gives? Discouraging...but I have to agree with mod mom's point about "what has
the party *done* for them?" Unfortunately, the rethugs have much deeper pockets - from
we taxpayers and all the skimming and re-cycling they do. It often comes down to the $$
behind the curtain...
BTW, Cincy itself went Kerry-Edwards by 66% - 30%. It was the county that stayed red.
We (the campaign) helped cut the margin from 2000's 11% to 2004's 5.5%, about in half.
Couldn't overcome the ring county's fraud, though...
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 05:53 AM
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16. Wrong-O: Rev. McMickle is working on voting issues in the black community
It was reported in the Plain Dealer when Blackwell came to Cle last month.

Who sponsors that site that your referenced? Cliff Arnebeck??
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:50 AM
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17. What is "wrong-o" as you say? Yes, Cliff Arnebeck sponsors the site.
You are quick to dismiss without explanation.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 09:01 PM
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18. Kick!!!(nt)
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 09:51 PM
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19. KICKIN
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 09:52 PM by FogerRox
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