Was Chuck Hagel involved?

[FreedomAngel82]

I'm watching an Alex Jones documentary and in the film he talks about our election system and how broken it is now. Cynthia McKinney is also guest featured in the film (she was also guest featured in "Road to Tyranny"). There's a woman who's talking about ES&S. According to this film Chuck Hagel has intrest's in with the company and he also is a twenty year old friend of the Bush family. He also ALMOST became our Vice President instead of Dick Cheney. I'm sure Cheney was chosen because of the oil and what's going on in Iraq now. Why else would a "conservative" canidate choose a vice president who has a gay daughter who's base hate's gay's? In Nebraska he won his seat for the Senate by a big land slide's twice. This state hasn't elected a republican Senator in over twenty-four years. Coincidence? I don't think so. 80% of his votes were counted by an ES&S voting machine. And we all know what happened with Georgia in 2002.

[tommcintyre]

1. It was a very familiar story

Hagel had one of those "surprising" upsets when he was first elected in the mid-nineties.

Also, later he denied his affiliation with ES&S; and only admitted it AFTER it was uncovered.

He is considered a front-runner for the 2008 GOP Pres nomination

Whether he was involved in the2004 theft, we can only surmise.

The best doc I've seen on this kind of stuff is "Invisible Ballots" (goes into a lot of Hagel stuff).

Listen to an interview about it here:

http://www.independentmediasource.com/evotingfraud.htm#Listen_Online
6-17-04 - Listen Online (52 minute interview) - INVISIBLE BALLOTS
Edward Griffin discusses electronic voting machines and how they will negatively affect our lives. (Source)

[FreedomAngel82]

2. Oh thank you

I think he's a key person too with all this. I was surprised when I first heard about this.

[FogerRox]

3. Was chuck involved with what?

Chuck IMHO wasnt really seriously considered for the VP spot.
The 1st head of Homeland Security Tom Ridge had more of a chance to be VP. AS did Rumsfeld, both Cheney and Rumsfeld knew each other from the Nixon admin.

Though Hagel is a (spelling?) Bliderberg attendee.

[TheFarseer]

4. Hagel was only a VP candidate for people

looking for something that made sense. As we know now, no bush appointees make any sense. The victory over Nelson was pretty unexpected. A popular governor vs. a carpet bagger who was kind of an unknown before the election season that year. I can't say he's done a bad job. He doesn't seem to listen to his constituents, but with this state, is that a bad thing?

[FogerRox]

5. Bilderberg Group/also mentioned on Majority report

From:
http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06?Na=HAGEL+CHUCK

Bilderberg Group. Meeting Participants. June 3-6, 1999 in Portugal.
The name "Bilderberg" came from the group's first meeting place, the Hotel de Bilderberg of Oosterbeek, Holland, in May 1954. Over the next 47 years the secret meetings have included most of the top ruling-class players from Western Europe and America. Until he was implicated in the Lockheed bribery scandal in 1976, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands served as chairman. By now Bilderberg is a symbol of world management by Atlanticist elites. Some observers, particularly those on the Right, feel that it borders on the conspiratorial, while the Left is primarily interested in its implications for what they call "power structure research." The Bilderberg participants from the U.S. are almost always members of the Council on Foreign Relations, and since 1973 Japanese elites have been brought into the fold through a third overlapping group, the Trilateral Commission.
This list of 111 participants from 24 countries was found on the Web. While discussions during the sessions are not reported publicly, the list of participants is usually available. Those attending are always careful to insist that they participate as individuals and not as representatives of their government. Since top leaders of major countries attend, it appears that this is a convenient fiction designed to sidestep public scrutiny.



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Name index for Bilderberg Group. Meeting Participants. 1999

AGNELLI UMBERTO (4)
AGUIRRE Y GIL DE BIEDMA ESPERANZA (4)
ALLAIRE PAUL ARTHUR (4)
ASLUND ANDERS (4)
BALSEMAO FRANCISCO PINTO (4)
BANCK MAJA (8)
BARNEVIK PERCY N (4)
BAYH EVAN (D-IN) (4)
BEATRIX QUEEN (6)
BERNABE FRANCO (4)
BILDT CARL (4)
BLACK CONRAD M (4)
BOYD CHARLES GRAHAM (4)
CLARKE KENNETH (4)
CLEMET KRISTIN (4)
COLLOMB BERTRAND (4)
CORZINE JON S (D-NJ) (4)
CRAVINHO JOAO CARDONA G. (4)
DAVID GEORGE A (HELLENIC BOTTLING) (4)
DAVIGNON ETIENNE (4)
DE CHASTELAIN JOHN A.D. (GEN) (4)
DE GRAVE FRANK H.G. (5)
DE MELLO VASCO (6)
DE PURY DAVID (6)
DE WAAL LODEWIJK J (8)
DO AMARAL JOAQUIM F (4)
DODD CHRISTOPHER J (D-CT) (4)
DONILON THOMAS E (5)
ERCEL GAZI (5)
ERGIN SEDAT (5)
ESTARREJA JOAO A (8)
FARREN MICHAEL J (8)
FELDSTEIN MARTIN S (5)
FISCHER STANLEY (5)
FRESCO PAOLO (5)
GIAVAZZI FRANCESCO (5)
GODSOE PETER (5)
GRAHAM DONALD EDWARD (5)
HAGEL CHUCK (R-NE) (5)
HALBERSTADT VICTOR (4)
HEDELIUS TOM C (5)
HEGGE PER EGIL (5)
HERRNDORF PETER A (5)
HOAGLAND JIM (5)
HOEGH WESTYE (5)
HOLBROOKE RICHARD C.A. (5)
HUYGHEBAERT JAN (5)
ISSING OTMAR (5)
JORDAN VERNON E JR (5)
KAMOV NIKOLAI (5)
KASTNER DIEMUT (8)
KIRAC SUNA (5)
KISSINGER HENRY A (5)
KOPPER HILMAR (5)
KRANIDIOTIS YANNOS (6)
KRAVIS MARIE-JOSEE (6)
LESCHLY JAN (6)
LIIKANEN ERIKKI (6)
MACLAREN ROY (6)
MACMILLAN MARGARET O (6)
MANDELSON PETER (6)
MARCAL GRILO EDUARDO C (5)
MATHEWS JESSICA TUCHMAN (6)
MCDONOUGH WILLIAM J (6)
MCGINN RICHARD A (6)
MICKLETHWAIT JOHN (8)
MITYUKOV IHOR (6)
MOISI DOMINIQUE (6)
MONTI MARIO (6)
MURTEIRA NABO FRANCISCO (6)
NASS MATTHIAS (6)
ODDSSON DAVID (6)
OLECHOWSKI ANDRZEJ (6)
OLLILA JORMA (6)
PADOA-SCHIOPPA TOMMASO (6)
PERGER WERNER A (6)
PORRITT JONATHAN (6)
PROFUMO ALESSANDRO (6)
RANDA GERHARD (6)
RATTNER STEVEN LAWRENCE (6)
RICHARDSON BILL B (D-NM) (6)
ROCKEFELLER DAVID SR (7)
RODRIGUEZ INCIARTE MATIAS (7)
ROJAS MAURICIO (7)
ROLL ERIC (LORD OF IPSDEN) (7)
ROSENGREN BJORN (7)
SALGADO RICARDO E.S. (7)
SAMPAIO JORGE (7)
SANTOS NICOLAU (EXPRESSO) (7)
SANTOS SILVA ARTUR (7)
SCHEEPBOUWER AD J (7)
SCHENZ RICHARD (7)
SCHOLTEN RUDOLF (7)
SCHREMPP JUERGEN E (7)
SEIDENFADEN TOGER (7)
SHAPIRO ROBERT B (MONSANTO COMPANY) (7)
SHEVTSOVA LILIA (7)
SOLBES MIRA PEDRO (7)
SURANYI GYORGY (7)
TAYLOR J.MARTIN (7)
THOMAN G RICHARD (7)
THORNTON JOHN L (GOLDMAN SACHS) (7)
TRENIN DMITRI V (7)
TRICHET JEAN-CLAUDE (7)
TYSON LAURA DANDREA (7)
VANHALA MATTI (7)
VARTIA PENTTI (7)
VASELLA DANIEL L (8)
VEREMIS THANOS M (8)
VRANITZKY FRANZ (8)
WOLF MARTIN (8)
WOLFENSOHN JAMES DAVID (8)
WOLFF VON AMERONGEN OTTO (8)
WOOLDRIDGE ADRIAN (8)
YUCAOGLU ERKUT (8)
ZANTOVSKY MICHAEL (8)
ZIMMERMANN NORBERT (8)

[tommcintyre]

9. KISSINGER HENRY A - ain't going no more ;)

I heard he's afraid to go overseas anymore, for fear of getting arrested for war crimes.

I think that will be Bush's fate after 2008. But he never liked to travel anyway. He was only out of the country three times before stealing the presidency.

[suziedemocrat]

11. Meeting Participants. 1999 -- Evan Bayh?? n/t

[Carolab]

14. Yup. And some think HE should be the Dem candidate.

Sheesh.

[Bill Bored]

17. Bill Richardson?

He didn't do anything to help the NM recount, which could have gone to Kerry, although a lot of those machines were paperless I believe.

And IA and NV were also very close. They would have tied the electoral collage had Kerry won all 3 states. Only a 20,000 vote swing was required all together.

[Peace Patriot]

24. Christopher Dodd. Hm-m. A key player in the promotion of...

...unverifiable elections.

Chuck Hagel. Early testing out of unverfiable elections.

Bill Richardson. Stopping election verification in New Mexico.

Interesting trio of US actors at Bilderberg.

[FreedomAngel82]

6. It's just showing how faulty the machine's are

And he has intrest's in the company. Why would a state who's NEVER elected a republican senator NOW elect one?

[FogerRox]

7. Interests? may be an understatement

Maybe I should do an Edgars search on him,

[tommcintyre]

8. He DID oppose invading Iraq, but...

considering his "coincidental" affiliation with ES&S, and his attempt to hide the fact - I trust him about as far as I can throw him.

What's Bob Kerry think of him?

[TheFarseer]

10. Not sure, he didn't seem to have a problem with Chuck

I think he was losing interest in politics at that point though. That was an AWESOME team if you like moderate maverick senators, which I do.

[FreedomAngel82]

12. I agree

Anybody who is affiliated with these machine companies I don't trust. You know they have personal intrest in them for some reason.

[kansasblue]

13. For a free book on Hagel and ESS see:

Www.blackboxvoting.org. there on the right about 1/2 way down the page are chapters to a book on voting machines.

[FogerRox]

15. ahhhh no --just get chapter 8

http://www.blackboxvoting.com/bbv_chapter-8.pdf

[Chicago1]

16. Chuck Hagel is toooooo close with the Bushies

When it comes to the White House I always apply the theory, where there's smoke there's fire. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo, it doesn't surprise me that Chuckie Hagel might be involved with ES&S and the voting machines.


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[Amaryllis]

18. Go here for all the dirt:

http://www.publicaccountability.org/election.html

[FogerRox]

19. they should update the diebold section to incude the firing of Bob

Urosevich--after Andys dumpster diving routine

[Amaryllis]

20. I didn't know he got fired! Do you have a link?

[FogerRox]

22. diebold site doesnt list him any longer

Andy's dumpster diving incident is what got him fired--it seems-- was all over AAR, and this has been mentioned at DU many times--but no I dont have a link.

Standard & Poor may have published their corporate directory for 2005. And Dun & BRadstreet also may have the 2005 edition out. I'm sure they would be up to date.

[Amaryllis]

26. Are you talking about Volusia County with the dumpster diving?

[Time for change]

21. Bev Harris' book on Black Box Voting talks about this

A whole chapter is devoted to Chuck Hagle, ES&S, and his surprise win to become Nebraska's Senator.

[FogerRox]

23. SO does David Allens book see the link to chapter 8 in my post above

[rigel99]

25. READ THE PICTURE

you'll find that Hagel was involved thru his ownership percentage in a company called the McCarthy Group and Investor in both ES&S and Diebold...

Hagel was the first one put into office, so in a sense NEbraska was #1 fraud state, but GA was not far on its heels....

Hagel however, someone pointed out is starting to break ranks with republicans.. I don't know if that's accurate, but he'd be the ultimate whistleblower...

I'm inclined to think his Bilderberg and Trilateral commission membership makes him the real connection to the money and the foreign control and pretty much tells us our government is in the hands of global arms companies moreso than some bushie rich guys..

that brings the OH MY GOD WE'RE SCREWED factor up a few notches...

methinks the only way to win this game is engage some other very rich families (who I don't even know , maybe soros) in wrestling control back of the US to the people....

[KerryReallyWon]

27. Hagel gave machines birth there, but could not run because....

It would drum up the Nebraska "Franklin CoverUp". The scandal they squashed would have been pounded. Too bad. I am working on educating FLA on the NE coverup. They did not have Internet then!

New bumper sticker:

JOHNNY GOSCH GO HOME!