Let's do it again.......

[Old and In the Way]

Screw the Republican controlled media...let's conduct our own vote.


Have Howard Dean and the DNC do a "Who Did You Really Vote For in "04"
Audit....Big time....make it a very big deal. Require everyone who wishes to "vote again" to sign an affidavit. Make it really, really worth something.

America's Revotes This time, we control the terms of the vote. I'd do it....in a heartbeat. Let's see if the results are the same. Let's compare a Democraticly-controlled vote vs. Republican controlled voting. You know what? I think we are into honesty and if Bush wins....so be it. Let's find out. Republicans are, of course, welcome to participate.

I'm a "vote again"-typr of Democrat.

[Carolab]

1. Signing an affidavit is not a guarantee they will tell the truth.

After all, how can anyone prove how they voted?

[Old and In the Way]

3. Who cares?

The point is....lets see if 60MM people will attest to voting for Kerry. Let's see wht that tells this crimanal/fraudulent/hypocritical/incompetent administration and the Republican Rubber Stampers in Congress.

Think how Democrats would feel if they knew 60MM other people want to say they voted Kerry? Let the MSM and the RNC try to spin that.

Fuck 'em.

[Carolab]

5. Oh, they'd find a way to spin it, of course.

They always do.

But, then, I guess it couldn't hurt...how to handle the logistics is an issue, I'd say, though.

Would it be a mail-in campaign? How'd you do it?

[Vektor]

2. I'm game!

I'd be happy to vote for Kerry AGAIN!

[Old and In the Way]

4. Why not?

Where's the rulebook the Republicans are using? Why can't WE ask ourselves...instead of taking the MSM/RNC word on who won?

Best thing for this countrey would be for the Democrats to control the voting....if people REALLY wanted Bush, so be it. At least we have peace of mind and we know that we still have wrk to do.

How can we make this a grass roots initiative?

Revote 04

[LatePeriduct]

7. I think this would be easier than some realize....

You would officially have to canvas and call people over the phone similar to what happened after the Ohio recounts started...

They are going to do another Ohio recount once they have decided the legal guidelines I have heard. Why could you not just conduct another canvas, mainly in the states and cities that show the most fraud?

After all it would go a long ways to at least identifying what happened with the minorities.....

Lets say fraud is shown in more than several states, using a re-canvas (and using the original names on the board of elections)

That would go a long ways to identifying who did what and could be presented at Nashville conference and onward, as evidence. Like Divestiture is doing we still don't know which fraud program was installed where. Clint Curtis software is most likely in there, but first you have to force the voting companies to divest their source code for analysis.

It has to be brought to full attention, because then there would be far more people taking to the streets.

[Old and In the Way]

8. Forget Ohio

Do the whole damn country over.....

[seriousstan]

6. Exactly how do you contact over 120 million voters?

Who is going to pay for it? Are they going to include return postage?(this makes a huge difference in response)How do you develop the reputation of trust necessary to get someone to tell you how they voted?

This is right up there with the "million vote march" ideas. Pie in the sky that goes no further than a message board. I have become disillusioned with the "take the streets" mantra. I have stood at too many protests with the same hand full of people. The VAST majority of people don't care or don't believe. I think we are doing a grave disservice to our cause by looking like the unrealistic fringe.

Perhaps the correct place to channel the energy is in working the polls and becoming active in the REAL voting process. Learn the system, advance inside of it and direct change from within.

You want to make sure ever vote counts, be the one counting the vote.

You want to keep the voting machines honest, be the ones choosing them.

Don't be the ones broadcasting about your million man march that is attended by 10,000.

Don't be the ones reporting the results of nation wide re-vote that 30,000 people participated in.

[Carolab]

9. In other words, PARTICIPATE.

Democracy is PARTICIPATORY government.

Run for office, or support a progressive candidate who IS. Get involved at the community/precinct level, petition your representatives, contact them about what needs to happen to reform our voting system, etc.

[emlev]

10. I'm Karl Rove and I approved this message:

Sure, go ahead. Do it. We'll just:
-stuff the ballot boxes
-claim you stuffed the ballot boxes
-make sure there's no media coverage
-discredit your methods so no one believes you
-do other stuff I won't mention here

Okay, now I'm not Karl Rove. I'm not trying to discourage you, but to point out areas where you might hone your thinking. How will you prevent these strategies (and similar ones) from interfering with this plan?

[LatePeriduct]

11. Important point....

These dominionists of the order aren't so stupid as some think...

"-stuff the ballot boxes"

Take photographic evidence of the ballot boxes, video recording etc. like Divestiture already has.

"-claim you stuffed the ballot boxes"

Take photographic evidence and/or video of the ballot boxes themselves.

"-make sure there's no media coverage"

Like Nashville, simply bring our own media presence. Robert Koheler and all the many newspapers/radio stations to broadcast.

"-discredit your methods so no one believes you"

Show the truth on the internet and air videos of it. Brad and the rest avoided a 13 day smear campaign done by Tom Feeney, to try to make Clint Curtis look insane. Then from there, they pummeled Tom and his corn squad until they went into hiding.

Everyone can do that now, presence is no longer a factor. The internet medium provides maximum exposure and outlet.

"-do other stuff I won't mention here"

Sargetti tried the same things. Just take a tape recording of it when nobody's noticing, send it to all the judges in the courts. All those "pesky" activist judges on both party lines.