Rove contradicts himself re fundi turnout

[DoBotherMe]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x974607

Saying "this will be the last presidential campaign I'll ever do," Bush strategist Karl Rove sat down with reporters Tuesday and offered his take on the election victory that he helped to forge, attributing the president's re-election to a handful of big issues and to Bush's "personal attributes" as a leader.

Rove also had this diagnosis of the Democrats' defeat, one shared by some members of that party: "I'm not sure the Democrats ever were able to, in this campaign, offer a concise and clear image of where they wanted to take the country."

Speaking over lunch to a few dozen journalists, Rove said cultural issues and evangelical voters played an important role in Bush's victory but said "this is a broader and more subtle issue" than some have suggested.

Rove noted that exit polls showed no rise in the share of voters in 2004 who attended church one or more times each week. He also said that while about a fifth of voters cited "moral values" as the key to their vote, it's difficult to compare that to 2000 since that choice wasn't offered voters in the exit polls.

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/special_packages/...

Cynics all!

[Sparkly]

1. Why is ANYbody citing exit polls as credible data on anything, while still

claiming they were way off in the simple question of "Who did you vote for?"

Edited to say I'm talking about the media and reporters who talk about the exit polls, quote Rove talking about the exit polls, etc... -- not talking about you, Dana! :)

[MelissaB]

5. I hope Zogby

eats Rove while he is still squiming. Here is a reposted link, too, from the Zogby site.

We have a Watergate story here that could give the media a post election explosive news story that could make the 2000 Florida vote debacle look like small potatoes. We need to get the media to see that votergate 2004 is huge news and we need to quickly fund the investigation and get Democratic leaders behind it.

Sheldon Drobny is CPA and Venture Capitalist and co-founder of Air America Radio.

(11/9/2004)

http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=10385

[orwell]

2. A Little Help from my Friends

Rove also said that he...heh heh...would like to thank Microsoft, Dell, Diebold, ESS and some very gifted hackers in the employ of Roger "Orgy" Stone for providing that extra little margin of victory that kicked them over the top.

"I couldn't have gotten a little twerp like this elected without them," he said stuffing a raw pork chop into his fat face.

Life is good...

[Straight Shooter]

3. bush and rove are setting everybody up

I'll repost from another thread:

The fallacy of having your exit poll cake and eating it, too:
Rove continues to quote the polls on moral issues, the War, and terrorism. Have you noticed? He said blatantly the voters are most concerned with the war in Iraq and terrorism, and that's why they voted for bush. (I believe this was from an interview featured in a post-election article on yahoo.)

The morals issue is a smokescreen, and the lip service evangelicals can't see through it.

So the question is: Why are the polls considered reliable on the issue of why they voted, but not reliable on the issue of for whom they voted?

IMHO, he's setting everyone up. By claiming Iraq is the number one concern, and with Iraq in increasing turmoil thanks to the incompetence of the handling of this war, it's only a matter of time before they shove the draft down our throat. There will be no other way to "win" the war, and Rove will claim it's because that's what the people wanted when they voted for bush. Supporting a draft will drain our social services even further, gutting more and more programs to finance this ill-begotten war on terrorism.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Ok Karl what is it? DId they or dind't they? RE: EVANGELICALS?

Yuo cannot have it both ways Karl