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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:31 AM
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State Law: VVPB and VVPAT. Please Help Complete Resource
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 07:15 AM by Wilms



Thanks to WillYourVoteBCounted, tommcintyre, kurtyboy, ProgressiveConn, Amaryllis, & Bill Bored, on this thread:

Which States Have Existing Law or Pending Bills for VVP Ballots or Trails
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x348377

We've gotten this far putting together the list which I hope we can (once we get it in good shape) distribute to the state forums,
both to help them out and to attract new posters for this forum.

The list of Existing Laws are posted in the first reply, the Pending Bills in the second.


Please reply if you can help with the following:

1. Indicate if the law or legislation provides VVPB or just VVPAT (please see GaryBeck's reference below.)
2. Links to the law or legislation Summary Page
3. If you know of any states have been overlooked or are looking into VVPB or VVPAT or Mail-In- Ballot.
4. Any other relevant information.
5. Recommendations for reference material to include when the material is posted state forums.


Keep in mind, some states that currently have law, also have pending VVPB or VVPAT legislation.

Most imporant, no matter what THEY call it, use GaryBeck's reference to determine, in fact, whether it is VVPB or VVPAT.


Reference

For the "Gold Standard" explanation of the difference between VVPAT and VVPB, please see GaryBeck's article:

Election bills still allow unverified e-voting
Understanding the difference between paper ballots and paper audit trails
http://www.solarbus.org/election/articles/0313-ballots.shtml


FEC HAVA 2002 Page:
http://www.fec.gov/hava/hava.htm


Common Cause State Election Bill Tracker:
http://www.commoncause.org/site/pp.asp?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=473101


Status of VVPB Bills in the States
(note: This site uses the 'VVPB' whether or not it's really VVPAT.)
http://www.votersunite.org/info/statestatus.asp


State and National Election Reform Groups
Arnheims Reference still in progress

State Election Reform Groups
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=349433#349618

National Election Reform Groups
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=349433#349619

With a few other groups listed on that thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=349433


Compendium of Election News Sources (to be updated)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x345146

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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:33 AM
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1. States Currently Requiring VVPB or VVPAT
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 06:43 AM by Wilms
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:20 PM
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5. Arkansas, Illinois and Utah Law
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 04:40 PM by Wilms
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 06:36 AM
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2. State VVPAT or VVPB Legislation or Studies
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 06:51 AM by Wilms


State VVPAT or VVPB Legislation


Arizona

Voter Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 2491
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/DocumentsForBill.asp?Bill_Number=HB2491&image.x=15&image.y=7
An Act mandating a voter verified paper record be provided to electors who use an electronic voting system.
Sponsor: Rep. Downing
Status: In-Committee (House Government Reform)
prepared for 3rd reading

Senate Bill 1342
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/DocumentsForBill.asp?Bill_Number=1342
An Act relating to elections and electors.
Sponsor: Sen. Jarrett
Status: passed Senate


Arkansas

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 1360
http://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/ftproot/bills/2005/public/HB1360.pdf
An Act concerning direct read electronic voting machines and voter verified paper trails; and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep. Kidd, Rep. Surnpter
Status: signed by Governor, now Act 654


Colorado

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

Senate Bill 05-079
http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics2005a/csl.nsf/fsbillcont/51B91106B515902487256F5E0078CF5A?Open&file=079_01.pdf
An Act concerning the creation of a permanent paper record of each vote cast in an election.
Sponsor: Sen. Mitchell, Rep. Madden
Status: Dead

Senate Bill 05-198
http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics2005a/csl.nsf/fsbillcont3/902196947278857887256F4D0069B29F?Open&file=198_01.pdf
An Act concerning the creation of a permanent paper record of each vote cast in an election. Expands the list of photo IDs allowed for voter verification.
Sponsor: Sen. Gordon, Sen. Mitchell
Status: Amended to Senate Committee of the Whole

Connecticut

Senate Bill 1295
Senate Bill 55


Florida

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 713 (Senate Bill 504)
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/bills_detail.aspx?Id=16273&sBillSubjectText=Election&iSessionSelectedIndex=0&iChamberSelectedIndex=2
An Act requiring that electronic or electromechanical voting system be capable of producing voter-verified paper record that is suitable for manual audit.
Sponsor: Rep. Gibson
Status: 1st Reading

Senate Bill 504 (House Bill 713)
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/bills_detail.aspx?Id=15605&sBillSubjectText=Election&iSessionSelectedIndex=0&iChamberSelectedIndex=2
An Act requiring that electronic or electromechanical voting system be capable of producing voter-verified paper record that is suitable for manual audit.
Sponsor: Sen. Hill
Status: In-Committee (Senate Ethics and Elections)

House Bill 541 (Senate Bill 280)
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/bills_detail.aspx?Id=16008&sBillSubjectText=Election&iSessionSelectedIndex=0&iChamberSelectedIndex=2
An Act revising a requirement and provides additional requirements for voting systems that may be approved by the Department of State.
Sponsor: Rep. Seiler
Status: 1st Reading

Senate Bill 280 (House Bill 541)
An Act revising a requirement and provides additional requirements for voting systems that may be approved by the Department of State.
Sponsor: Sen. Klein
Status: In-Committee (Senate Ethics and Elections)


Georgia




Hawaii

Senate Bill SB1325
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/site1/docs/getstatus.asp?...
Requires that electronic voting systems also generate paper ballots to ensure accuracy. Establishes auditing procedures. (SD2)
Sponsor: Hanbusa
Status: 3/8/2005 S Passed Third Reading, as amended (SD 2). Transmitted to House.
3/8/2005 H Received from Senate (Sen. Com. No. 266) in amended form (SD 2).
3/10/2005 H Pass First Reading.
3/10/2005 H Referred to JUD, FIN, referral sheet 30

House bill HB1740
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/site1/docs/getstatus.asp?...
Description: Prohibits use of electronic voting system unless the system generates a paper ballot that may be inspected and corrected, and unless every ballot is retained as a definitive record; allows the chief election officer to rely on electronic tallies created by electronic voting systems under certain conditions; establishes that every person who causes electronic voting systems to record, tally, or report votes inaccurately shall be deemed guilty of election fraud; appropriates funds for costs incurred in acquiring technology to create a paper trail for electronic ballots. (SD1)
Sponsor: Luke, et. al.
Status: 3/22/2005 S The committee(s) on JHW recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS.
3/24/2005 S Reported from JHW (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 1219) with recommendation of passage on Second Reading, as amended (SD 1) and referral to WAM.
3/24/2005 S Report adopted; Passed Second Reading, as amended (SD 1) and referred to WAM.


Maine

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

LD 456 (House Bill 334)
http://www.maine.gov/portal/government/legislature.html
An Act making disputed ballots in State Elections public.
Sponsor: Rep. McKane
Status: In-Committee (House Legal and Veterans Affairs)

Voting Standards Bills

LD 100 (House Bill 76)
http://janus.state.me.us/legis/LawMakerWeb/summary.asp?ID=280014619
An Act requiring the Secretary of State to develop voting systems standards.
Sponsor: Rep. Patrick
Status: In-Committee (House Legal and Veterans Affairs)


Maryland

Voter-Verified Paper Trails

House Bill 80
http://mlis.state.md.us/2005rs/billfile/hb0080.htm
An Act requiring that voting systems incorporate an adequate voter verification process that includes specified features.
Sponsor: Del. Cardin
Status: 1st Reading (House Ways and Means)

House Bill 107
http://mlis.state.md.us/2005rs/billfile/hb0107.htm
An Act requiring that any voting system that does not use a document ballot produce an accessible voter-verified paper audit trail of a voter's ballot choices and provide the voter with an opportunity to inspect the accessible voter-verified paper audit trail.
Sponsor: Del. Montgomery
Status: 1st Reading (House Ways and Means)

Senate Bill 9
http://mlis.state.md.us/2005rs/billfile/sb0009.htm
An Act requiring that specified voting systems produce a paper record of a voter's ballot choices and provide the voter with an opportunity to inspect the paper record.
Sponsor: Sen. Harris
Status: In-Committee (Senate Education Health and Environmental Affairs)


Minnesota

HF 1703
SF1666


Montana

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 297
http://laws.leg.state.mt.us/pls/laws05/LAW0210W$BSIV.ActionQuery?P_BILL_NO1=297&P_BLTP_BILL_TYP_CD=HB&Z_ACTION=Find
An Act requiring use of paper ballots in all elections.
Sponsor: Rep. Brady Wiseman
Status: passed House
In-Committee (Senate State Administration)


New Jersey

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

Assembly Bill 33 (Senate Bill 2400)
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2004/Bills/A0500/33_I1.PDF
An Act requiring that all voting machines produce a voter-verified paper record.
Sponsor: Rep. Reed Gusciora
Status: In-Committee (House Appropriations)

Senate Bill 2400 (Assembly Bill 33)
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2004/Bills/S2500/2400_I1.PDF
An Act requiring that all voting machines produce a voter-verified paper record.
Sponsor: Sen. Wayne Bryant
Status: In-Committee (Senate State Government)


New Mexico

Voter-Verified Paper Trail

House Bill 1026
http://legis.state.nm.us/lcs/_session.asp?chamber=H&type=++&number=1026&year=05
An Act requiring the use of voter-verifiable paper ballots; changing requirements for testing and certification of voting systems; declaring an emergency.
Sponsor: Rep. Mary Helen Garcia
Status: In-Committee (House Voters & Elections)

Senate Bill 962
http://legis.state.nm.us/lcs/_session.asp?chamber=S&type=++&number=962&year=05
An Act requiring the use of voter-verifiable paper ballots; changing requirements for testing and certification of voting systems; declaring an emergency.
Sponsor: Sen. James G. Taylor
Status: In-Committee (Senate Rules)


New York

Help America Vote Act Bills

Assembly Bill 5
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A00005
An Act enacting the voting systems standards act of 2005; includes electronic display within the definition of ballot; implements a statewide uniform voting machine; establishes the election modernization fund;
Sponsor: Rep. Wright
Status: passed Assembly
delivered to Senate

Assembly Bill 122
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A00122
An Act to provide for county board of elections control of voting machines and other functions relating to the election administration process.
Sponsor: Rep. Wright
Status: passed Assembly
In-Committee (Senate Elections)


Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

Senate Bill 1809
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=S01809
An Act prohibiting the use of punch card ballots after November 1, 2006; providing for the certification of voting machines by the state board of elctions; requiring such systems to produce and retain a voter-verified permanent record.
Sponsor: Sen. Flanagan
Status: passed Senate
In-Committee (House Election Law)


North Carolina

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 238 (Senate Bill 233)
http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2005&BillID=H238
An Act requiring that all voting systems permit all voters to verify their votes on paper.
Sponsor: Rep. Insko, Rep. Preston
Status: In-Committee (House Election Law and Campaign Finance Reform)

Senate Bill 233 (House Bill 238)
http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2005&BillID=S223
An Act requiring that all voting systems permit all voters to verify their votes on paper.
Sponsor: Sen. Eleanor Kinnaird
Status: In-Committee (Senate Judiciary)


Oregon

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 2169
http://www.leg.state.or.us/05reg/measpdf/hb2100.dir/hb2169.intro.pdf
An Act prohibits secretary from approving voting machine unless
machine contains devices that duplicate votes cast by elector
onto paper record copy and allow elector to view paper record copy.
Sponsor:
Status: passed House
In-Committee (Senate Rules)


Senate Bill 1015


South Carolina

Voting Systems

House Bill 3347
http://www.scstatehouse.net/sess116_2005-2006/bills/3347.htm
State Election Commission to adopt one voting system to be used to conduct elections.
Sponsor: Rep. Scott et al.
Status: Read third time in House and sent to Senate 3/4/2005
In committee (Senate Judiciary)


Tennessee

Voter-Verified Paper Trail

House Bill 313 (Senate Bill 490)
http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/bills/currentga/BILL/HB0313.pdf
An act to amend Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 2, relative to electronic ballot software programs.
Sponsor: Rep. Lynn, Sen. Bryson
Status: In committee (House State & Local Government, Elections Subcommittee)
In committee (Senate state & Local Government)

House Bill 312 (Senate Bill 491)
http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/bills/currentga/BILL/HB0312.pdf
AN ACT to amend Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 2, Chapter 9, relative to voting machines.
Sponsor: Rep. Lynn, Sen. Bryson
Status: In committee (House State & Local Government, Elections Subcommittee)
In committee (Senate state & Local Government)


Texas

Bills Common Cause Texas Supports

Voter Protection Bills

House Bill 56 (Senate Bill 475)
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=00056
An Act relating to the offense of tampering with a direct recording electronic voting machine; providing criminal penalties.
Sponsors: Rep. Mary Denny, Sen. Rodney Ellis
Status: In-Committee (House Elections; action pending)
(Senate State Affairs)

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 166 (Senate Bill 94)
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=00166
An Act relating to the use of direct recording electronic voting machines.
Sponsor: Rep. Aaron Pena, Sen. Eliot Shapleigh
Status: In-Committee (House Elections, Senate State Affairs)

House Bill 1289
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=01289
An Act relating to the use of direct recording electronic voting machines.
Sponsor: Rep. Leibowitz
Status: In-Committee (House Elections)

House Bill 2259
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=02259
An Act relating to the use of direct recording electronic voting machines.
Sponsor: Rep. Baxter
Status: In-Committee (House Elections)

House Bill 3083
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=03083
An Act relating to the use of direct recording electronic voting machines.
Sponsor: Rep. Kolkhorst
Status: In-Committee (House Elections)

House Bill 3383
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=03383
An Act relating to the process for the approval of voting systems.
Sponsor: Rep. Rodriguez
Status: In-Committee (House Elections)

Senate Bill 1672
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=S&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=01672
An Act relating to the approval of voting systems and equipment.
Sponsor: Sen. Ellis
Status: filed


Bills Common Cause Texas Opposes

Voter-Verified Paper Trail

House Bill 2465
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=02465
An Act relating to a public hearing conducted by the secretary of state in regard to the question of approval of a voting system or voting system equipment for use in elections.
Sponsor: Rep. Denny
Status: In-Committee (House Elections)


Utah

Voter-Verified Paper Trail

House Bill 211
http://www.le.state.ut.us/~2005/htmdoc/hbillhtm/hb0211.htm
This bill amends election law and the duties of the chief election officer to require that voting equipment produces an auditable record of votes cast.
Sponsor: Sen. J. Dougall
Status: Passed House 2/17/2005
Passed Senate 3/2/2005
Sent to the Governor for consideration 3/15/2005


Virginia

House Bill 987


Washington

ENGROSSED SUBSTITUTE SENATE BILL 5395 http://www.leg.wa.gov/wsladm/billinfo1/dspBillSummary.cfm?billnumber=5395
Requiring voting devices to produce paper records.
Sponsor: Senators Kastama, et. al.
Status: Mar 8 First reading, referred to State Government Operations & Accountability.
Mar 11 Public hearing in committee.
Mar 25 Scheduled for executive session in committee. (Subject to change)



States Studying VVPB or VVPAT

Yellow Horse Reports Pennsylvania is studying reform on this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x350845

Pennsylvania Governor's Election Reform Task Force will be making recommendations.
http://www.dos.state.pa.us/election_reform/site/default.asp

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 01:41 PM
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3. Utah's HB211
The Governor signed it into law:


3/16/2005 Governor Signed

http://www.le.state.ut.us/~2005/status/hbillsta/hb0211s01.htm
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 07:36 PM
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7. Updated from Post 2: State VVPAT or VVPB Legislation
Updated from Post #2



State VVPAT or VVPB Legislation


Arizona

Voter Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 2491
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/DocumentsForBill.asp?Bill_Number=HB2491&image.x=15&image.y=7
An Act mandating a voter verified paper record be provided to electors who use an electronic voting system.
Sponsor: Rep. Downing
Status: In-Committee (House Government Reform)
prepared for 3rd reading

Senate Bill 1342
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/DocumentsForBill.asp?Bill_Number=1342
An Act relating to elections and electors.
Sponsor: Sen. Jarrett
Status: passed Senate


Colorado

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

Senate Bill 05-079
http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics2005a/csl.nsf/fsbillcont/51B91106B515902487256F5E0078CF5A?Open&file=079_01.pdf
An Act concerning the creation of a permanent paper record of each vote cast in an election.
Sponsor: Sen. Mitchell, Rep. Madden
Status: Dead

Senate Bill 05-198
http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics2005a/csl.nsf/fsbillcont3/902196947278857887256F4D0069B29F?Open&file=198_01.pdf
An Act concerning the creation of a permanent paper record of each vote cast in an election. Expands the list of photo IDs allowed for voter verification.
Sponsor: Sen. Gordon, Sen. Mitchell
Status: Amended to Senate Committee of the Whole


Connecticut

Senate Bill 1295 http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillstatus/cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill&bill_num=1295&which_year=2005
Senate Bill 55 http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillstatus/cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill&bill_num=55&which_year=2005&SUBMIT.x=12&SUBMIT.y=15


Florida

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 713 (Senate Bill 504)
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/bills_detail.aspx?Id=16273&sBillSubjectText=Election&iSessionSelectedIndex=0&iChamberSelectedIndex=2
An Act requiring that electronic or electromechanical voting system be capable of producing voter-verified paper record that is suitable for manual audit.
Sponsor: Rep. Gibson
Status: 1st Reading

Senate Bill 504 (House Bill 713)
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/bills_detail.aspx?Id=15605&sBillSubjectText=Election&iSessionSelectedIndex=0&iChamberSelectedIndex=2
An Act requiring that electronic or electromechanical voting system be capable of producing voter-verified paper record that is suitable for manual audit.
Sponsor: Sen. Hill
Status: In-Committee (Senate Ethics and Elections)

House Bill 541 (Senate Bill 280)
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/bills_detail.aspx?Id=16008&sBillSubjectText=Election&iSessionSelectedIndex=0&iChamberSelectedIndex=2
An Act revising a requirement and provides additional requirements for voting systems that may be approved by the Department of State.
Sponsor: Rep. Seiler
Status: 1st Reading

Senate Bill 280 (House Bill 541)
An Act revising a requirement and provides additional requirements for voting systems that may be approved by the Department of State.
Sponsor: Sen. Klein
Status: In-Committee (Senate Ethics and Elections)


Georgia

HB58O http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2005_06/sum/hb580.htm

HB 790 http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2005_06/sum/hb790.htm


Hawaii

Senate Bill SB1325
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/site1/docs/getstatus.asp?...
Requires that electronic voting systems also generate paper ballots to ensure accuracy. Establishes auditing procedures. (SD2)
Sponsor: Hanbusa
Status: 3/8/2005 S Passed Third Reading, as amended (SD 2). Transmitted to House.
3/8/2005 H Received from Senate (Sen. Com. No. 266) in amended form (SD 2).
3/10/2005 H Pass First Reading.
3/10/2005 H Referred to JUD, FIN, referral sheet 30

House bill HB1740
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/site1/docs/getstatus.asp?...
Description: Prohibits use of electronic voting system unless the system generates a paper ballot that may be inspected and corrected, and unless every ballot is retained as a definitive record; allows the chief election officer to rely on electronic tallies created by electronic voting systems under certain conditions; establishes that every person who causes electronic voting systems to record, tally, or report votes inaccurately shall be deemed guilty of election fraud; appropriates funds for costs incurred in acquiring technology to create a paper trail for electronic ballots. (SD1)
Sponsor: Luke, et. al.
Status: 3/22/2005 S The committee(s) on JHW recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS.
3/24/2005 S Reported from JHW (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 1219) with recommendation of passage on Second Reading, as amended (SD 1) and referral to WAM.
3/24/2005 S Report adopted; Passed Second Reading, as amended (SD 1) and referred to WAM.


Idaho

House Bill 283 http://www3.state.id.us/oasis/H0283.html


Illinois

Senate Bill 1683 http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1683&GAID=8&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=19870&SessionID=50&GA=94


Kansas

House Bill 2254 http://www.kslegislature.org/bills/2006/2254.pdf


Maine

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

LD 456 (House Bill 334)
http://www.maine.gov/portal/government/legislature.html
An Act making disputed ballots in State Elections public.
Sponsor: Rep. McKane
Status: In-Committee (House Legal and Veterans Affairs)

Voting Standards Bills

LD 100 (House Bill 76)
http://janus.state.me.us/legis/LawMakerWeb/summary.asp?ID=280014619
An Act requiring the Secretary of State to develop voting systems standards.
Sponsor: Rep. Patrick
Status: In-Committee (House Legal and Veterans Affairs)


Maryland

Voter-Verified Paper Trails

House Bill 80
http://mlis.state.md.us/2005rs/billfile/hb0080.htm
An Act requiring that voting systems incorporate an adequate voter verification process that includes specified features.
Sponsor: Del. Cardin
Status: 1st Reading (House Ways and Means)

House Bill 107
http://mlis.state.md.us/2005rs/billfile/hb0107.htm
An Act requiring that any voting system that does not use a document ballot produce an accessible voter-verified paper audit trail of a voter's ballot choices and provide the voter with an opportunity to inspect the accessible voter-verified paper audit trail.
Sponsor: Del. Montgomery
Status: 1st Reading (House Ways and Means)

Senate Bill 9
http://mlis.state.md.us/2005rs/billfile/sb0009.htm
An Act requiring that specified voting systems produce a paper record of a voter's ballot choices and provide the voter with an opportunity to inspect the paper record.
Sponsor: Sen. Harris
Status: In-Committee (Senate Education Health and Environmental Affairs)


Minnesota

HF0874
http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/revisor/pages/search_status/status_detail.php?b=House&f=HF0874&ssn=0&y=2005

SF0290
http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/revisor/pages/search_status/status_detail.php?b=Senate&f=SF0290&ssn=0&y=2005


Montana

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 297
http://laws.leg.state.mt.us/pls/laws05/LAW0210W$BSIV.ActionQuery?P_BILL_NO1=297&P_BLTP_BILL_TYP_CD=HB&Z_ACTION=Find
An Act requiring use of paper ballots in all elections.
Sponsor: Rep. Brady Wiseman
Status: passed House
In-Committee (Senate State Administration)


New Jersey

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

Assembly Bill 33 (Senate Bill 2400)
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2004/Bills/A0500/33_I1.PDF
An Act requiring that all voting machines produce a voter-verified paper record.
Sponsor: Rep. Reed Gusciora
Status: In-Committee (House Appropriations)

Senate Bill 2400 (Assembly Bill 33)
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2004/Bills/S2500/2400_I1.PDF
An Act requiring that all voting machines produce a voter-verified paper record.
Sponsor: Sen. Wayne Bryant
Status: In-Committee (Senate State Government)

Assembly Bill 2627
http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/revisor/pages/search_status/status_detail.php?b=Senate&f=SF0290&ssn=0&y=2005

Assembly Bill 1583
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2004/Bills/S2000/1583_I1.HTM


New Mexico

Voter-Verified Paper Trail

House Bill 1026
http://legis.state.nm.us/lcs/_session.asp?chamber=H&type=++&number=1026&year=05
An Act requiring the use of voter-verifiable paper ballots; changing requirements for testing and certification of voting systems; declaring an emergency.
Sponsor: Rep. Mary Helen Garcia
Status: In-Committee (House Voters & Elections)

Senate Bill 962
http://legis.state.nm.us/lcs/_session.asp?chamber=S&type=++&number=962&year=05
An Act requiring the use of voter-verifiable paper ballots; changing requirements for testing and certification of voting systems; declaring an emergency.
Sponsor: Sen. James G. Taylor
Status: In-Committee (Senate Rules)

House Bill 1063
http://legis.state.nm.us/lcs/_session.asp?chamber=H&type=++&number=1063&year=05

Senate Bill 678
http://legis.state.nm.us/lcs/_session.asp?chamber=S&type=++&number=678&year=05


New York

Help America Vote Act Bills

Assembly Bill 5
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A00005
An Act enacting the voting systems standards act of 2005; includes electronic display within the definition of ballot; implements a statewide uniform voting machine; establishes the election modernization fund;
Sponsor: Rep. Wright
Status: passed Assembly
delivered to Senate

Assembly Bill 122
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A00122
An Act to provide for county board of elections control of voting machines and other functions relating to the election administration process.
Sponsor: Rep. Wright
Status: passed Assembly
In-Committee (Senate Elections)

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

Senate Bill 1809
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=S01809
An Act prohibiting the use of punch card ballots after November 1, 2006; providing for the certification of voting machines by the state board of elctions; requiring such systems to produce and retain a voter-verified permanent record.
Sponsor: Sen. Flanagan
Status: passed Senate
In-Committee (House Election Law)

Senate Bill 1669
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=S01669


North Carolina

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 238 (Senate Bill 223)
http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2005&BillID=H238
An Act requiring that all voting systems permit all voters to verify their votes on paper.
Sponsor: Rep. Insko, Rep. Preston
Status: In-Committee (House Election Law and Campaign Finance Reform)

Senate Bill 223 (House Bill 238)
http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2005&BillID=S223
An Act requiring that all voting systems permit all voters to verify their votes on paper.
Sponsor: Sen. Eleanor Kinnaird
Status: In-Committee (Senate Judiciary)


Oregon

Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 2169
http://www.leg.state.or.us/05reg/measpdf/hb2100.dir/hb2169.intro.pdf
An Act prohibits secretary from approving voting machine unless
machine contains devices that duplicate votes cast by elector
onto paper record copy and allow elector to view paper record copy.
Sponsor:
Status: passed House
In-Committee (Senate Rules)


South Carolina

Voting Systems

House Bill 3347
http://www.scstatehouse.net/sess116_2005-2006/bills/3347.htm
State Election Commission to adopt one voting system to be used to conduct elections.
Sponsor: Rep. Scott et al.
Status: Read third time in House and sent to Senate 3/4/2005
In committee (Senate Judiciary)


Tennessee

Voter-Verified Paper Trail

House Bill 313 (Senate Bill 0490)
http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/bills/currentga/BILL/HB0313.pdf
An act to amend Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 2, relative to electronic ballot software programs.
Sponsor: Rep. Lynn, Sen. Bryson
Status: In committee (House State & Local Government, Elections Subcommittee)
In committee (Senate state & Local Government)

Senate Bill 0490
http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/bills/currentga/BillCompanionInfo.asp?BillNumber=SB0490


House Bill 312 (Senate Bill 0491)
http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/bills/currentga/BILL/HB0312.pdf
AN ACT to amend Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 2, Chapter 9, relative to voting machines.
Sponsor: Rep. Lynn, Sen. Bryson
Status: In committee (House State & Local Government, Elections Subcommittee)
In committee (Senate state & Local Government)


Senate Bill SB0491
http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/bills/currentga/BillCompanionInfo.asp?BillNumber=SB0491


Texas

Senate Bill 94
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=S&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=00094&SORT=Asc


Bills Common Cause Texas Supports

Voter Protection Bills

House Bill 56 (Senate Bill 475)
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=00056
An Act relating to the offense of tampering with a direct recording electronic voting machine; providing criminal penalties.
Sponsors: Rep. Mary Denny, Sen. Rodney Ellis
Status: In-Committee (House Elections; action pending)
(Senate State Affairs)


Voter-Verified Paper Trail Bills

House Bill 166 (Senate Bill 94)
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=00166
An Act relating to the use of direct recording electronic voting machines.
Sponsor: Rep. Aaron Pena, Sen. Eliot Shapleigh
Status: In-Committee (House Elections, Senate State Affairs)

House Bill 1289
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=01289
An Act relating to the use of direct recording electronic voting machines.
Sponsor: Rep. Leibowitz
Status: In-Committee (House Elections)

House Bill 2259
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=02259
An Act relating to the use of direct recording electronic voting machines.
Sponsor: Rep. Baxter
Status: In-Committee (House Elections)

House Bill 3083
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=03083
An Act relating to the use of direct recording electronic voting machines.
Sponsor: Rep. Kolkhorst
Status: In-Committee (House Elections)

House Bill 3383
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=03383
An Act relating to the process for the approval of voting systems.
Sponsor: Rep. Rodriguez
Status: In-Committee (House Elections)

Senate Bill 1672
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=S&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=01672
An Act relating to the approval of voting systems and equipment.
Sponsor: Sen. Ellis
Status: filed


Bills Common Cause Texas Opposes

Voter-Verified Paper Trail

House Bill 2465
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/db2www/tlo/billhist/billhist.d2w/report?LEG=79&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=02465
An Act relating to a public hearing conducted by the secretary of state in regard to the question of approval of a voting system or voting system equipment for use in elections.
Sponsor: Rep. Denny
Status: In-Committee (House Elections)


Virginia

House Bill 987
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?051+ful+HB987

House Bill 1549
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?051+ful+HB1549


Washington

ENGROSSED SUBSTITUTE SENATE BILL 5395 http://www.leg.wa.gov/wsladm/billinfo1/dspBillSummary.cfm?billnumber=5395
Requiring voting devices to produce paper records.
Sponsor: Senators Kastama, et. al.
Status: Mar 8 First reading, referred to State Government Operations & Accountability.
Mar 11 Public hearing in committee.
Mar 25 Scheduled for executive session in committee. (Subject to change)

Senate Bill 5395
http://www.leg.wa.gov/wsladm/billinfo1/dspBillSummary.cfm?billnumber=5395&year=2005

House Bill 1025
http://www.leg.wa.gov/wsladm/billinfo1/dspBillSummary.cfm?billnumber=1025&year=2005


States Studying VVPB or VVPAT

Yellow Horse Reports Pennsylvania is studying reform on this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x350845

Pennsylvania Governor's Election Reform Task Force will be making recommendations.
http://www.dos.state.pa.us/election_reform/site/default.asp
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PeterPan Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #7
26. and Iowa too
Excellent work!!
Please add:

Iowa

SF 351 is currently in subcommittee.

Summary (from the state legislature's site):

This bill rewrites the Code section relating to requirements for voting machines in use in the state by listing the requirements for voting machines generally and listing the requirements that apply specifically to direct recording electronic devices. The bill also requires that a voting machine that is a direct recording electronic device shall be capable of producing an individual paper record for review by the voter before the voter's ballot is cast. The bill provides that the individual paper records are to be preserved by the county commissioner of elections for 22 months following federal elections and for six months following all other elections and shall be considered as evidence in cases of a recount, manual audit, or machine malfunction. The bill also provides that until the federal elections assistance commission adopts standards for direct recording electronic devices that are capable of producing paper records, the state board of examiners for voting machines and electronic voting systems shall contract with a testing authority to examine the
machines for purposes of certification for use in the state.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. Peter, Thank You!
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:19 PM
Response to Original message
4. quick question
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 04:20 PM by Bill Bored
if I understand Gary correctly, isn't he saying that it's only a VVPB if it's hand counted? I don't know if ANY states have that, or have a bill that requires it. If so, we should make a separate category.

If you mean paper ballots, marked by hand, counted by Op Scan, that's another story. Please set this straight once and for all.

I.e.:
1. VVPB, machine counted
1a. Precinct Count
1b. Central Count

2. VVPB hand counted

3. VVPAT

What do you think?

(And I'm sure there will be some that allow more than one of these.)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. if that is the case
remove Utah from the list. We got our trail but it's useless unless there is a recount. Still, we're still fighting here in utah to keep the machines out altogether!
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Details, details!
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 08:57 PM by Bill Bored
In NY, the bills say to only use the VVPAT for the 3% mandatory random audits and for full recounts. This could be a good thing if they mandate full recounts in the case of any discrepancies in the audits, but so far this is not the case. It's left up to the BOE or the courts. At least we don't have an SOS in charge of elections here though. It's an actual bi-partisan BOE. Our SOS has nothing to do with elections really.

But in the case of machine failure, they would use the VVPAT as the official count. But machine failure is not well-defined. How would they know if a machine has failed to count votes correctly for example? We are trying to ban the DREs and go precinct count Op Scan. We don't have either yet to any great extent.

I heard that UT was NOT going to have VVPATs. Was this premature or did I misinterpret it? And what was that story about an amendment to the state constitution to allow DREs??? I'm confused! Will UT have mandatory manual random audits at least?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:54 AM
Response to Reply #8
15. The devil is in the detail.
For one, the less rigid the standard, the easier to administer.


This report was just posted by griffy:

"The United States continues to operate an election system administered by too many state and local officials who tolerate serious flaws, inconsistent rules, unaccountability and high error rates that would be intolerable in any other important enterprise, such as banking or even Las Vegas casinos. "

http://www.carnegie.org/reporter/10/lessons/index.html


I looked at the new Utah law.

It does require VVPAT but doesn't seem to have language about recounts or audits.

http://www.le.state.ut.us/~2005/bills/hbillenr/hb0211.htm

It's a little :scared: that we do have all these bills going on and perhaps most don't really get us anywhere.

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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #15
22. Listen, if the paper is there, it's a great step forward.
Even if the courts have to order the audits or recounts, at least it will be possible to do them. It might cost the candidates some money but that's what campaign contributions and GELAC funds are for. This is not an ideal solution but it's better than not even being able to recount.

The Dems raised a lot of money last year. There was plenty for recounts. They just didn't do them! I think this and the paperless machines were the real tragedies of 2004.

There should be some court cases demanding recounts based on the fact that paperless machines are completely unverified. We have to change the paradigm from one of trust to no trust in the system. If that happens often enough, the public might get educated. We can do this by demanding these recounts, even at random if necessary, no matter how great the margins are in the initial count. All it takes is paper, some money and a judge. This is something Howard Dean might be able to spearhead in his new role.

What do you think?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:24 AM
Response to Reply #22
23. LandShark will like the paper record.
There's no doubt that VVPAT gives us an advantage. So would open software.

And this is a step in the right direction.
AND it'll be a nice day when DRE's are banned. :argh:
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. not exactly
hey Bill, you said:

if I understand Gary correctly, isn't he saying that it's only a VVPB if it's hand counted?

answer: no. please check the article/graphic I created and you'll see this text:

"VVPB: may be counted by hand or machine"

and at the end note:

"Legislation that requires a VVPB can still allow for computerized machines to count the paper ballots and central tabulators to total the counts, unless these things are also specifically prohibited in the bill."

(the article is here:
http://www.solarbus.org/election/articles/0313-ballots.shtml )

the VVPB does one thing: it means that the machine can not CAST YOUR BALLOT. The piece of paper is the ballot that is counted in the first count of the election.

This might explain better; if you can understand the difference between an electronic ballot marking device and a DRE, you got it.

The two might look exactly the same, and both could print a piece of paper. As a voter, you might not even knwo the difference.

But with the DRE, your actual vote was sent by the computer you voted on to a tabulator somewhere. The printout is used for recounts.

With the electronic ballot marking device, the computer only prints the paper. Your vote is cast by that piece of paper. Someone has to take all the ballots and count them somehow. It can be done with a optical scanner or by hand. But the distinction is that the piece of paper that you looked at is used to count the votes. In the DRE VVPAT scenario the computer cast your vote and the paper is not used in any way unless there is a recount.

I hope that helps?

gary
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. Yes it's perfectly clear now.
The major advantage of the VVPB over the VVPAT is that the vote is cast with the paper ballot.

The counting is still a gray area however and so is the auditing.

We could say that a hand count is a 100% manual audit.

The machine counts still require at least some partial hand audits to verify the accuracy of machines, whether the machine counts the VVPB or not.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. ok, and..
you said--

"The machine counts still require at least some partial hand audits to verify the accuracy of machines, whether the machine counts the VVPB or not."

reply--

that is only if people care about verifying the accuracy of their machines. in the last election, no one apparantly did.

here in vt, we have paper ballots, and lots of opscans. there were no hand audits. evidently the powers to be don't think they're necessary.

however, it still qualifies as a VVPB because I filled out the ballot myself, and stuck it into a box which was later run through a scanner.

I tried to make it clear in the article, that VVPB doesn't mean all hand and no computer. it just means that DREs are not allowed.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:20 AM
Response to Reply #12
14. I care Gary! nt
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:00 AM
Response to Reply #12
16. Two question I pose here…to your knowledge…
a. are VVPAT from DRE's ever OpScan (for audits and recounts)?
b. Are DRE's ever 'Precinct Tallied' in any way?

(I need outlines and diagrams to understand stuff, so here's an outline…how am I doing?)

CAR

Count


1. Hand Counted VVPB

2. Machine Counted - VVPB (OpScan)

a. Precinct Tally
b. Central Tally

3. DRE - VVPAT

a. Precinct Tally
b. Central Tally


Audit (Mandatory or Triggered)

1. Hand Counted VVPB or VVPAT from DRE

2. Machine Counted - VVPB (OpScan)

a. Precinct Tally
b. Central Tally


Recount

1. Hand Counted VVPB or VVPAT from DRE

2. Machine Counted - VVPB (OpScan)

a. Precinct Tally
b. Central Tally


Does that all seem correct?


A comment about this statement in your post:

"the VVPB does one thing: it means that the machine can not CAST YOUR BALLOT. The piece of paper is the ballot that is counted in the first count of the election." (italics-mine)

The machine you're referring to is the DRE, but not the OpScan that might get used for Voter Verification. Correct?
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-05 02:37 AM
Response to Reply #16
30. I'll try
a. are VVPAT from DRE's ever OpScan (for audits and recounts)?


This is technically possible but I'm not sure if it's every been done. The whole VVPAT technology is new, and you have to look at each vendor and how they propose their VVPATs to be counted in the case of an audit or recount. Naturally, they must have the capability of being hand counted, or they wouldn't be a VVPAT. If they can be visually verified by the voter, the can by nature also be hand counted without a scanner.

However, they could be set up to be read by scanners.

But this is where the legislation comes in. Some of the legislation (I think) states specificially that the audit has to be manual hand count. Recounts are different too. In some cases, if there is a recount, a certain percentage would have to be hand counted and the rest could be recounted other ways. One question yet unanswered is whether or not the non-hand count portion of the recounts could be done by re-running the memory cards in the DRE machines, or if the VVPATs have to be used, and if so, if a opscan could be used for that.

sorry... I asked more questions than I answered....


b. Are DRE's ever 'Precinct Tallied' in any way?

It is technically possible but I don't know if it's done. I would ask rigel, she's in an all DRE state and I'll bet she has some insight on this.



hope that helps.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. I had a feeling those questions were still questions.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:03 AM
Response to Reply #12
18. The last line of post 16 should have read...
The machine you're referring to is the DRE, but not the OpScan that might get used for Voter Verification and for Opscan Tallying. Correct?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. Thanks for that outline.
Could you expand it? It would be good to include categories for:

- Count
- Mandatory Audit
- Recount


Ideally this 'compendium' would include all of this. However, there's a lot of legislation to go through.

So your treatment, along with GaryBeck's essay on VVPAT/VVPB would help people (either in the state forums, or here) chip in and sort through this stuff.

Note that neither Common Cause, nor VerifiedVoting's compendiums are complete. I've relied quite a bit on there info to do this so there could be holes here, as well.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:18 AM
Response to Reply #10
13. For NY Only (and the law is not final yet)
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 02:22 AM by Bill Bored
Mandatory manual random audit (MMRA) of VVPARs of 3% of machines in each jurisdiction.

Additional audits or full recount at the discretion of BOE, but they will have to publish uniform statewide regulations about how/when to do this. Also can be court ordered in case of election contest.

Official Count is the VVPAR count in cases of FULL hand counts only, otherwise it's the machine count.

In case of machine "failure", a partial VVPAR count becomes official, but of course the term "failure" is a bit vague.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:03 AM
Response to Reply #13
17. Equipment List
Bill, in these latter two scenarios (see post 16), is it correct that there is an OpScan for Voter Verification and then a different OpScan for tallying? Or are they the same unit?


2. Machine Counted - VVPB (OpScan)

a. Precinct Tally
b. Central Tally


3. DRE - VVPAT

a. Precinct Tally
b. Central Tally

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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. Here's what I think:
It's not a recount or an audit unless it's a hand counted. Computers count the same way every time unless they run out of memory or something so what's the point of a machine recount? Run Excel 1000 times and you still the same results right? I don't think this should even be considered. It's junk auditing!

Both recounts and audits use VVPBs or VVPATs counted by hand.

A recount is just a 100% audit.

VVPATs are not scannable AFAIK.

DREs count at the precinct level but totals can be uploaded to GEMS. Same for precinct count Op Scans.

So I'd say your thing should like this:

CAR

Count

1. Hand Counted VVPB

2. Machine Counted - VVPB (OpScan)

a. Precinct Tally
b. Central Tally

3. DRE - VVPAT

a. Precinct Tally


Audit (Mandatory or Triggered)

1. Hand Counted VVPB or VVPAT from DRE


Recount

1. Hand Counted VVPB or VVPAT from DRE


What do you think?

And where will all this be posted?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #21
29. What do YOU think?
Edited on Sat Apr-02-05 04:50 PM by Wilms
LOL!

Re:

"VVPATs are not scannable AFAIK."

I think the OVC system might be one exception. Do you agree?


As for Audits and Recounts, are you saying that they are NOT done with machines (OpScans), or just that they shouldn't? The latter point makes sense to me, but I'm unknowledgable about the first.


As far as posting this stuff, I'm hoping GaryBeck can put up a page, HeddaFoil asked about using it for Vote Trust USA. And I think the National Ballot Integrity Project is in here somewhere. I've been in touch with Verified Voting, and perhaps Common Cause will respond to an email I sent. ElectionLine.org is another, and I'm open from there.

Thing is, I'd like to get the info into the hands of the State Level Election Reform Groups, as well as the nationals.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:13 PM
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19. Cross check with this list from Verified Voting.org
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 10:20 PM
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20. Thanks Hedda.
In fact, Will Doherty and I have exchanged email over this.

He's looking into a number of them we have posted here, but aren't on the VV site.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 11:23 AM
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25. Great Wilms!
Realizing that neither the Common Cause nor the Verified Voting pages were complete, we were just getting ready to pull all this info together for Vote Trust USA when you magically appeared with this research thread. I hope you don't mind if we rely on it with HUGE thanks for the fantastic research efforts of the great DU team and an even HUGER thanks to YOU!

hedda :hi:
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:21 PM
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28. You're welcome!
And my head is about to explode!

I've listed, so far, 80! pieces of legislation across 26 states.

Our more current thread is here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x348377


But I might start a new one to post an updated list. Please look for it and provide counsel (I need it!). I'm a bit nervous that I haven't specifically searched out...

1. Bills relating to election system software and tampering.

2. The handling of provisional and absentee ballot (they are closely related to VVPAT/VVPB in way that perhaps bears inclusion.

Perhaps you'll comment on the more recent thread.

Thanks, Hedda.


....................Wilms
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 02:45 AM
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24. OK I just got a VVPB and a VVPAT
headache, there has got to be a simpler way. P.B.H.C. less complicated,Right ?
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