Blackwell said Ohio's election O.K.. NYT

[Botany]

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/032205X.shtml

but .....

In Perry County you had precincts with greater than a 100% turn out

In Trumble County more absentee ballots cast than absentee ballots
requested.

In Miami County a precinct reported 99.4% turn out. Miami County
also had 19,000 votes added after the close of voting.

In Franklin County 62 extra voting machines were loaded on trucks
and driven around the county on election day w/ their #s blacked
out from official roosters. Many voters in democratic districts
had waits over 5 hours.

In Mahoning County voters reported a vote for Kerry resulted
in the machine lighting up the * name.

In Claremont, Warren, & Butler Counties vote totals that put *
over the top the results were held until the Cleveland vote was in
and the # of votes needed by * was ascertained.

In Toledo a couple that had first voted for Kennedy in 1960
and were still living in the same house found that they were
no longer registered as voters. They voted provisionally.

In Delaware County precincts that had more registered democrats
than in 2000 and had gone to Gore in 2000 went to * in 2004.

In Greene County precincts that had over 3,500 registered voters
around 2 Black Colleges recorded only 50 votes.

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I could go on and on ....... It seems to me that every time
that a "glitch" in the system happened it favored *. Random chance?

This is not :tinfoilhat: stuff. I live in Columbus, Ohio and saw and heard
election fraud 1st hand. Where do we go from here? I hope Dr. Dean
puts some muscle into looking into Ohio and election reform.

[Harlequin]

1. thanks for that.

Dean isn't going to make a name for himself by overthrowing the system. Somehow, it's like everyone has an iron vice on their 'nads about declaring this president a fake from Day 1.

doens't make sense.

[MadSal]

2. The last paragraph gave a quote from Blackwell which said

"It would have taken the collusion of 176 Democratic leaders. It's silly on its face to think there was some kind of bipartisan conspiracy," Blackwell said.
Can anyone well me how this happened? Did the Dems really have observers there? If so what do they say? Does anyone know?

[Iceburg]

3. What happened in Ohio was flying below well below the radar

of the observers (Voter suppression tactics aside).

"Did the dems have observers there" is akin to asking a scientist to count the strands of DNA without the aid of an electon microscope.

In time, with the assistance of many compu-sci and stats folks, the DNA of the Ohio election will be revealed to all.

[Botany]

4. Democratic membership doesn't mean they are clean

BOE democrat member in Delaware, County fought the recount.

Bottom Line the #s in Ohio do not add up. The only thing the repugs can
say, "Well, the democrats were there too." but "they" do not address the
underlining facts of the case. Too much stuff happened not to have
causative agents behind the actions.

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KEE501A.html

[abbiehoff]

5. People are not necessarily what they seem

I know people in my county who are registered Republicans who have never voted Republican in their lives. The thing is, my county is so red, that if you want to be involved in politics at all, you must be with the party that runs the county. I suspect that in Democratic counties there are non-Democrats registered as Democrats so that they can have some influence in local politics. These people could easily be the "Democratic" observers or those who approved the number of machines each precinct needed.

[Wilms]

6. Makes sense to me.

With all the slime out there, it would not surprise me that Repub "plants" have been groomed over a long period of time.

[roseBudd]

8. Dem BoE officials are not observers of computer tabulation...

there is nothing to see. A rigged tabulation program can be triggered and CAN pass pre-election testing.

Computers count the votes so no one can see
They claim Bush won I say prove it to me

[roseBudd]

7. Since you live in Columbus perhaps you can investigate...

the Mighty Texas Strike Force. They stayed in a Hilton around the corner from GOP headquarters. Interview maids, valets, bartenders, cab drivers. Where did they go to celebrate on Nov. 2? Did they ask for advice on strip clubs to visit? Did they get drunk and brag to strippers? What rooms were they in, who paid for the rooms? Did they make any calls from the rooms? They were seen using pay phones in the Hilton. Has anyone ascertained who they called. If not why? Has the Columbus PD done any investigation? If not why? African American cops would be your best bet for contact on that issue.

[LatePeriduct]

9. Didn't Blackwell also say....

That Diebold delivered the best performance among voting in a long time, and turn his back on the staffers giving them a salute.

Is Ken Blackwell really mr Money?