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lthuedk Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:04 AM
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Avoiding the use of the word FASCIST is not good for your health
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 12:08 AM by lthuedk
The madness gripping our country must be outed. Hiding behind the cross, Bushists are transforming a once benevolent God-fearing country into unadulterated, thoroughbred fascism which seeks absolute global domination through militant corporatism and irrational mythology.

Below, find a few of my images that portray my overview of the general picture.

http://www.light-to-dark.com/rapture_rejected.html

http://www.light-to-dark.com/bushworm.html

http://www.light-to-dark.com/beware_of_false_prophets.html

http://www.light-to-dark.com/she_died_for_neocon_schemes.html

http://www.light-to-dark.com/scolding.html

http://www.light-to-dark.com/dubyas_commandments.html

http://www.light-to-dark.com/chimp_&_mobius.html

http://www.light-to-dark.com/george.html

http://www.light-to-dark.com/sign.html

http://www.light-to-dark.com/bushcroft.html

Many of us already know what is going on. But reticence won't get things moving in the democratic direction. We are not a theocracy dominated by lunatics who kill for a myth created by mortal but insane individuals.

True Christianity is beautiful. Bushist theofascism is a paranoid's delusional fantasy.

Keep the pressure on for change until we get our country back! Please do read Madsen's well researched article. Lets simply and completely purge the insane End Dayers before they manage to destroy the planet.

Very truly,

Stephen Pitt
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:37 AM
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1. I agree- and say or write the word fascist at least once a day!
Sometimes more and it is important for all of us to stay focused on this as a reality. People often look shocked when I say it- but I say it anyway because - well frankly it is shocking but it is also a fact. We must and we will get our country back. Watch the film at www.theocracacywatch.org if you haven't done so yet. It's important and makes things very, very clear about who these people are and what their intentions are....

Is one of these links to the Madsen story?
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:17 AM
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2. Did you see the American Conservative article on fascism?
Pat Buchanan's magazine has published a warning about the religious right-wing nut cases, likening it to fascism.

HUNGER FOR DICTATORSHIP:
WAR TO EXPORT DEMOCRACY MAY WRECK OUR OWN
by Scott McConnell
The American Conservative (2/14/2005) -- Students of history inevitably think in terms of periods: the New Deal, McCarthyism, “the Sixties” (1964-1973), the NEP, the purge trials—all have their dates. Weimar, whose cultural excesses made effective propaganda for the Nazis, now seems like the antechamber to Nazism, though surely no Weimar figures perceived their time that way as they were living it. We may pretend to know what lies ahead, feigning certainty to score polemical points, but we never do.
Nonetheless, there are foreshadowings well worth noting. The last weeks of 2004 saw several explicit warnings from the antiwar Right about the coming of an American fascism. Paul Craig Roberts in these pages wrote of the “brownshirting” of American conservatism—a word that might not have surprised had it come from Michael Moore or Michael Lerner. But from a Hoover Institution senior fellow, former assistant secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration, and one-time Wall Street Journal editor, it was striking.
Several weeks later, Justin Raimondo, editor of the popular Antiwar.com website, wrote a column headlined, “Today’s Conservatives are Fascists.” Pointing to the justification of torture by conservative legal theorists, widespread support for a militaristic foreign policy, and a retrospective backing of Japanese internment during World War II, Raimondo raised the prospect of “fascism with a democratic face.” His fellow libertarian, Mises Institute president Lew Rockwell, wrote a year-end piece called “The Reality of Red State Fascism,” which claimed that “the most significant socio-political shift in our time has gone almost completely unremarked, and even unnoticed. It is the dramatic shift of the red-state bourgeoisie from leave-us-alone libertarianism, manifested in the Congressional elections of 1994, to almost totalitarian statist nationalism. Whereas the conservative middle class once cheered the circumscribing of the federal government, it now celebrates power and adores the central state, particularly its military wing.” …



The invasion of Iraq has put the possibility of the end to American democracy on the table and has empowered groups on the Right that would acquiesce to and in some cases welcome the suppression of core American freedoms. That would be the titanic irony of course, the mother of them all—that a war initiated under the pretense of spreading democracy would lead to its destruction in one of its very birthplaces. But as historians know, history is full of ironies.

Full article at: http://www.amconmag.com/2005_02_14/article.html
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:29 PM
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9. Hadn't seen this one
thanks for posting
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lthuedk Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:10 AM
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3. My normal mean of communication is graphical, and so the links.
However, Madsens' article...

http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm

...gives a thorough analysis of the crisis confronting this country. This should not be taken lightly.

I believe the fundamentalist belief system to be rife with hypocrisy and so is vulnerable. End Dayers don't realize they are being manipulated by those with long term plans that stretch far beyond any projected Armageddon.

The key, I believe, is educating not only the fundamentalist to such empirical dishonesty and betrayal, but the general public.

Look, these lunatics have presented vulnerabilities in logic and form. I think we should take care of business when given the opportunity.

Stephen
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 05:43 AM
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4. For the meek, you can use "neo-fascism"...or...
as Stephen offers "theofascism."

Beyond that, you can describe certain acts, or proposals, as virtual(ly) fascism(ist).

The point is to get the meme in. It will travel.

Just be sure to take it a small step beyond your comfort level. Our core values of tolerance and kindness can be a liability. One that the fascists are relying heavily upon.

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www.thedeanpeople.org
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 09:32 AM
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5. proper useage ex- "fascist media"
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 09:33 AM by tinanator
with the convenient nature of partisan conflict, one side or both shouting fascism wont go as far as we would like. Applying the term where it can do some good, to a fourth party like the US corporate media will paint the fastest picture to its unknowing victims. Attacking the Republicans from a pro Democrat pov is fodder for deaf ears. HAMMERING and openly confronting the crooked (masquerading as inept) corporate media is the only way I can think of to productively utilize the word "fascist" strategically.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:28 AM
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6. Certain words are like switches....
Fascist is one of them. Personally I believe it is only useful when preaching to the already converted. For those especially older people who remember WWII personally, they will hear nothing after the word. The Corporatista Junta is counting on this to suppress the truth, that they are in fact fascist.

The Fundies aren't really fascist, they are just along for the ride to bring thier greater glory vison to fruition.

I'm trying to find the switch word that will turn on the use of fascist. That will let them broach the subject.

-Hoot
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:33 AM
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7. You both make the case for increased use
We need to do more "preaching" to the choir.

And we need not be shouting fascism for media fodder.

Our target for rhetoric is anyone slightly to the right of ourselves. This would include our supposed "allies" in the Dem party, particularly the "leaders," as well as the great apathetic masses.

In fact, the word can be quite useful by simply being overheard.

The general point is to break the habit of euphemism. That in itself is the slipperiest of slopes.
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www.thedeanpeople.org

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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 11:45 AM
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8. A gov't doesn't need concentration camps in order to be "fascist"
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 11:48 AM by TexasLawyer
Mussolini defined "fascism" as "corporatism"-- giving a country's corporations the ultimate political power, rather than the country's citizens.

A must read is the short essay: "Fascism Anyone?" by
Laurence W. Britt, detailing the 14 characteristics of fascism.

<snip>

http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm

For the purpose of this perspective, I will consider the following regimes: Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Franco’s Spain, Salazar’s Portugal, Papadopoulos’s Greece, Pinochet’s Chile, and Suharto’s Indonesia. To be sure, they constitute a mixed bag of national identities, cultures, developmental levels, and history. But they all followed the fascist or protofascist model in obtaining, expanding, and maintaining power. Further, all these regimes have been overthrown, so a more or less complete picture of their basic characteristics and abuses is possible.

Analysis of these seven regimes reveals fourteen common threads that link them in recognizable patterns of national behavior and abuse of power. These basic characteristics are more prevalent and intense in some regimes than in others, but they all share at least some level of similarity.

1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism. From the prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins, the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was usually coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on xenophobia.

2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. The regimes themselves viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda, the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.

<snip>

8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. Unlike communist regimes, the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the ruling elite’s behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and opponents of the “godless.” A perception was manufactured that opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.

<snip>

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lthuedk Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 03:14 PM
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10. The media is a tough nut to crack.
http://www.light-to-dark.com/democracys_end.html

We may have to out money current advertisers, because...

...unless their advertisers are financially hobbled by consumers, they won't respond. That's why a new network that incorporates a Fairness Doctrine is so vital. Challenge the right's honesty ourselves and preempt their moves.

Soros, Turner: Where are you?

And on the voting machines: How many believe any real changes will actually happen before 2006...2008? ...........I thought so. The need for new manufacturers who undersell and challenge their competitor's honesty could be effective. At the very least, sales to states open to fairness could paint an ugly picture of contrasting and dishonest red state results.

Right now, class action suits are under attack. Why? Fascist vulnerability. Not only are commercial interests exposed but more importantly, so are junta's principals. It wouldn't bode well for the Bushies to be sued by 60 million Americans. If the fed is corrupt, its up to the trial lawyers. Their very livelihood is at stake.

Stephen

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