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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 12:14 AM
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Hearing in Jacksonville Tuesday at 6:00 on Election Fraud & Irregularities
I've updated my info on NE Fla. area. I had forgotten to put my Volusia County and Brevard county info on the web site, so added them. Lots of dirty tricks, suppression, etc. there just like in Duval. I also added more on Duval. But the biggest problems were in S. Fla. & Tampa/St Pete area.
Statewide problems: http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

The file http://www.flcv.com/EIRSFLa2.thml has all of the Florida County non- vote machine problems on it
http://www.flcv.com/EIRSFLa.htm has the vote machine fraud problems

http://www.flcv.com/volusiao.html and http://www.flcv.com/brevard.html and http://www.flcv.com/duval.html

http://www.flcv.com/dirtytrf.html has Florida dirty tricks

http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html summarizes all of the problems all over the state; with links to similar problems in Ohio and New Mexico

http://www.flcv.com/ussumall.html has documentation on vote machine fraud, dirty tricks, and suppression of minorities in over 20 states.



Also don't have Clay county on my web site, EP not as active there but similar problems reported:


Clay County (Dirty tricks, long lines, and suppression)


019677 11/01/04, 6:06 AM PST Absentee-ballot related problem
clay County, Florida Caller is in the military, requested an absentee ballot, but hasn't received it.
044919 11/02/04, 3:02 PM PST Other polling place problem
Pinewood Presbyterian Church 500 Knight Box Street, Orange Park, Clay County County, Florida A lady at the polling place said the voter wasn't on the rolls)l Voter said she registered to vote at DMV. She asked for a provisional ballot, and the lady said she could not have one. (F/U notes indicate she registered on 04/19/02.)
049167 11/02/04, 5:45 PM PST Registration-related problem
Chestwick Oak, Orange Park, Clay County, Florida Goes to school in Talahasee but is registered to vote in Clay County. The register dropped her for the lsit. She believes she was fraudulentlhy re-registered when she signed a petition.
050243 11/02/04, 6:39 PM PST Early closing , Clearwater, Clearwater County, Florida At polling place at 7:00am, only 3 machines running. Voter left and returned later to find 5 machines running, but was told that the poll closes at 7:00, and if he had not voted by then, he would not be allowed to vote.
057963 11/15/04, 7:07 PM PST Absentee-ballot related problem; Registration-related problem Fleming Island High School, Fleming Island, Clay County, Florida She received an absentee ballot, although she did not ask for one. She was turned away from voting. Found the absentee ballot.

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candle_bright Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 12:20 AM
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1. Duval
I just clicked on the link for Duval County (the 6th link in your post) and it didn't work.

Is there a way to fix the link?
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 01:36 AM
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2. I'd like to talk to someone who'll be at this meeting
Please PM me if you're planning to go.

Thanks.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 02:50 AM
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3. berniew1 this is a little bit off the point, but would you take a look at
what CA's Kevin Shelley did with the e-vote machine on election day, and tell me what you think? The report may or may not give you some additional thoughts for FL.

here is the link to the pdf file. It is very big and slow to download, but as an overall picture as to what can be gleaned from this audit may be interesting.

under the title: November Parallel Monitoring Program

http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/touchscreen.htm

this is what he says in the Summary:

Members of the Secretary of State Elections Division staff, along with
independent consultants from the consulting firm of R&G Associates, LLC (R&G),
developed the Program to implement the Secretary’s directive. The Program
provided for the random selection of DRE voting equipment to be set aside for
use by experts to test on Election Day, simulating actual voting conditions, to
determine the accuracy of the machines to record, tabulate, and report votes.
Program Purpose
Current federal, state, and county accuracy testing of Direct Recording Electronic
(DRE) voting systems occurs prior to elections and does not mirror actual voting
conditions. The March Parallel Monitoring Program was developed as a
supplement to the current logic and accuracy testing processes. The goal was to
determine the presence of malicious code by testing the accuracy of the
machines to record, tabulate, and report votes using a sample of DRE equipment
in selected counties under simulated voting conditions on Election Day.
Notwithstanding this additional level of testing, there are forms of malicious code
that could affect the accuracy of a voting system that would not be detected by
federal, state, local or parallel testing. Other detection methods, such as the
Accessible Voter Verified Paper Audit Trail (AVVPAT), are necessary to expose
these types of election tampering.
The Program results provide a “snapshot” of a specific system’s behavior on
Election Day. Thus, the value of the results is limited to the November 2, 2004
Election Day.

Ultimately, he concluded the machines performed with 100% accuracy, and wherever there were discrepancies is was tester error. I do see it to be open for discussion.
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