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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:24 PM
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Michael Moore wants to hear from us!


Live webchat (Thursday at 6:30pm ET)

Link here on the main page: http://michaelmoore.com/

Anybody want to ask him about some election "issues"?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:26 PM
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1. no, but thanks for the heads up...n/t
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:27 PM
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2. LOL
I look at every oportunity lately, and I really like the guy.
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CFO6 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:26 PM
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14. I wanted to help with the Oscars but they sure don't listen to me
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 09:56 PM
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3. Can you send him this link
www.zonaeuropa.com/01467.htm
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:03 PM
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4. OMG! These are amazing.
Do you mind if I ask how you got these? Did a professional/journalist take them?
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #4
18. Someone
post the link on DU a few days back, but DU is so big with 25,000 articles a day it get lost. I am just spreading it around so all at DU can see it. Cause I think the message it important.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. I sent them to him
throught the address at his website. I've never seen them and will gladly circulate them if that's what you want.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:37 PM
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15. Thanks
Sometimes we forget what wars mean and the price we have to pay?

The pictures tells a story without any words.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:14 PM
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19. I am stunned.......
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leanin_green Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #19
98. I can't help but feel sooo sorry.
I think the one with the kid with the sign that said, "Democracy is not forcing others to follow USA," pretty much sums it up.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. I'm still looking at these and
am so pissed about this gd war.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. Amazing, indeed! And, has anyone sent MM the 'stolen election' ....
....video compilation that Faye and Dzika and others released yesterday?

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=304254&mesg_id=304254


BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION;24/7
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. I did,
but it wouldn't hurt for others to send it too.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. Nightline out to run those for a half hour as well.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #9
16. Really
It will be good if they do.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:19 PM
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10. I will send it. n/t
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. Thank You...
I sent that link to everyone on my list...Everyone. Regardless of their politics, they must share in what is going on. This will never show up on their TV. We need to feel this...I can not stop my tears...it is just...I don't have words...
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:28 AM
Response to Reply #12
36. At least
we still have love in our heart.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:25 PM
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13. I suggest the title "An Enduring American Legacy: The Children of Iraq" ..
....and urge the widest possible distribution.

If you think any of these folk consider America the provider of democracy they'll likely tell you that 'freedom on the march' means tank tread marks across their bodies.

The non-elected hoax-president and war criminal occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave needs to be indict, prosecuted and imprisoned for the remainder of his horrid life.


Peace.


BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION;24/7 -- Anyone got a problem with that?
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FloridaCrat Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #3
22. I just sent this to everyone in my address book, including repugs
that I have nothing in common with anymore.

Thank you, Understandinglife for the very appropriate title:
An Enduring American Legacy.

Very well said. I am still crying.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:18 AM
Response to Reply #22
35. I did too - we should MASS distribute this site
If this doesn't reveal the horror of war
NOTHING WILL

I have had goosebumps on my skin for the last
5 minutes. I'm shaking with disgust.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #35
49. Caption: "Is THIS how the U.S. brings FREEDOM to other countries???
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #3
26. I urge you to post this in the DU General thread and alert us when...
....you do so we can all nominate it for the front page.

Thank you.


Peace.

BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION; 24/7 -- ANYONE GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT NOW.........:grr:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:33 AM
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29. I've posted it at VR; here's the link...
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #3
27. The handiwork of the moral values crowd
who think that Bush is making the world freer and safer and that they're all going to heaven because they're so good and holy and they voted for Bush who prays a lot.

The only thing they're really good at is rationalization.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:35 AM
Response to Reply #27
30. We all know that when * says "freedom" most folk dive for cover (nt)
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 12:36 AM by understandinglife


BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION; 24/7 -- ANYONE GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT NOW.........:grr:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:15 AM
Response to Reply #30
32. I don't know if I have the nerve but
if anyone else does, perhaps we should send a packet to the churches, especially the ones that tell their faithfull to vote repuke because god is a repuke.

I've been listless lately, not even sending any emails, very worn out and don't think anyone listens. I may send some emails to the repuke congresspeople, not that they'll open the link but . . .
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:34 AM
Response to Reply #32
37. They do listen
every bit of light we can bring help. I always believe this saying

" I will pass this road but once, so let me do what ever I can, for I will never walk this road again."
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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #37
46. Please Oversea Visitor...
Can you make this link its own thread? These pictures are too powerful - - they need to be seen and passed on to others so everyone feels what we have felt viewing them.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #46
114. I did
but my timezone is different. I live on the otherside of the world. Day for you is night for me. Tis forum generate too many articles, not a complain but a post dont last long.
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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:28 AM
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28. This is so heartbreaking. n/t
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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:52 AM
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31. Please can you make this it's own thread so more people will see it?
I'm sending the link to my members of congress.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:16 AM
Response to Reply #3
34. oh my GOD -- this website is too powerful - Deserves its own thread
Every person in American
especially our congressmen
should be forced to look
at these pictures.

T
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:37 AM
Response to Reply #3
41. I couldn't keep from crying when I saw those pictures.
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 08:37 AM by fasttense
What a very sad testament to what the United States did and is still doing.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:19 AM
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43. oh my GOD
I am so heartbroken - I just can't stand this!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They could have been my children - I cannot imagine the horrid pain - we need to start a new thread for this.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #3
44. EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD LOOK at these pictures.....heart breaking
Thank you for this link......:cry:
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #3
48. As if my heart couldn't break more....
If that's Lance Cpl Boudreaux in the picture with his thumb up, he needs to be courtmartialed.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #48
50. Not sure about that one but if it's true
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #50
84. But
did anything come out of it. This is the original picture.
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #3
59. wow , everyone should see these.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #59
94. No one should see these - they shouldn't exist
This shouldn't be happening. This is so wrong in every sense of the word. We will have to pay for this, I'm sure of it.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #3
85. Look what the * government has done. I HATE BUSH!!!! nt
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:57 PM
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99. Can't foreign Governments arrest these War ciminals (* and cheney)
during visits? Try them for War Crimes! Do the world a great justice! I hear Cheney spoke at a ceremony commemorating the Liberation of Auschwitz today. Grab him! Give him to the World Court! Or better yet to the poor innocent civilations of Iraq. (Have you heard if he was booed? We do not have a free press in the US)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #99
100. I heared Rumsfeld
had to cancel his trip to Germany this February because of this.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:29 AM
Response to Reply #100
107. Great News! What about * and cheney? International War Criminals! nt
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:04 PM
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5. Does he want to ask us anything? n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 10:42 PM
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17. Did you send him the rawstory link?
MM might find that very interesting!
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. I sent that to him tonight. -- but others should send it too... n/t
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darkworkz Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:23 PM
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21. tell him to get his mail list on letter of the week!
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Lisabtrucking Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:46 PM
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23. This just gets me OUTRAGED! I just want to SCREAM! What the
Fu*k is wrong with America. How can the republicans condone this, and they condoned this when they went to the voting box. These religious Fu*k's. I'm printing these picture's and going to put them everywhere. I am mad as hell. These freak-en bush supporters. They need these picture,s shoved in their face.

So this is what we have come too.
America the Murderer of women and children.
America will never get over this.
This will live with us and our children for ages.
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Lisabtrucking Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. I'm not going crazy, should of been clearer.
I'm sorry. I went to the link Oversea Visitor posted and just made me a little unstable.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:38 AM
Response to Reply #24
38. Its ok
I am 49 and a male and I cry when I saw it.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #24
45. Not one, and that includes Boxer, mentioned all of the dead Iraqis.
The fact that our country has committed wholesale slaughter against innocents breaks my heart every day.

During the coronation Ron Reagan Jr. had the balls to mention it when Chris Matthews was talking about the victims of 9/11. Ron said that we have killed many more Iraqi children than all of the victims of 9/11.
At least someone was trying to get that point Out There.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #45
54. Yes, this bothered me, too. Our politicians frequently do this...
...mention the 1300 Americans dead, and 10,000 wounded, and leave out the 100,000 innocent Iraqis slaughtered by our bombs (according to a British doctors' report that came out just days before the election).
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. We had best 'never get over it'; and, I'm right there with you in your....
....outrage. I've sent these images to many folk in the past two hours and I'm just getting started. These images should appear everywhere, all the time, forever; that is the only way we will ever begin to regain our sense of justice, compassion, and the true understanding of the meaning of 'freedom.'


Peace.

BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION; 24/7 -- ANYONE GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT NOW.........:grr:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #23
88. This is what I do with my anger...
I put signs in my car window so that all the MFing, SUV driving, * voting, selfish stepford wives are forced to face some real issues.
Examples:
OUTSOURCING JOBS NEEDED TO SUPPORT BUSH'S WAR MACHINE
0 WMD
ASK YOURSELF IF YOU ARE WILLING TO SEND YOUR KIDS
JOBS NOT WARS

and

0 WMD = LIES
IMMORAL WAR
FAMILIES GRIEVE
WHILE BUSH DANCES

and this one was purchased:
BUSH/CHENEY '04
Proudly Marching toward WWIII
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:50 AM
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33. We need to start a campaign...here and now...
...these pictures must be put EVERYWHERE across the United States.

They need to be printed off, blown up and plastered everywhere across the country: On roadways, overpasses, bridged, sides of busses, billboards, buildings...

The time for action is now.

We have to galvanize and rise up....NOW.

I am so heartbroken and angry at this administration right now. Bush is a war criminal. He should be lacking the very freedom that he claims he wants to instill around the world.

The media won't show us pictures like these, so we have to show America what they signed on for---when they elected this president and now sit in silence as this evil, sick war marches on--and threatens to spread into other nations.

We're at critical mass, folks. We must not tolerate this for one more minute longer!!
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:43 AM
Response to Reply #33
39. The Vets knows
that why so many of they are stress out.

230,000 of them. So many rather run away then go back, some willing to face court martial. They might not have pictures but they will have nightmares, pictures burn into their brain forever.

I read an article here about a marine.

Sucide by cops. About how he kill and wounded some cops so they will hunt him and shot him.
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:10 AM
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40. HERE YA GO MICHAEL.... DIEBOLD IS THE PROBLEM..
check out the ongoing investigation of election rape (I mean fraud) in GA... it's ongoing and it's only getting worse over time....

hot off the presses... Georgia's sticky history with Diebold and
how we're fighting back.....
http://www.solarbus.org/stealyourelection/articles/0128-georgia.pdf

Diebold is the problem
Diebold is the problem
Diebold is the problem

write it 2000 times, Michael, for all to see, then apologize to your loyal following for saying to 'get over it'.... jeesh...

it just takes an honest seeking person and a fax machine to expose these idiots..let's all get those Open Requests working for us... work it !
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:07 AM
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42. We should all be there asking about election fraud is we can
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:18 PM
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47. kick it for MM at 6:30 ET n/t
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:07 PM
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51. if anyone actually gets to tlak with him please mention
http://thankyoupatriot.com perdy perdy please?! Ive written four letters to his site over the past 2 weeks and just cant seem to get a presonse of any kind...

help please!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #51
53. I just mentioned it
:)
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #53
102. no way! what did ya say? or did he give a response?!!!
or anything???
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:34 PM
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52. You can submit questions NOW...
...just go to http://www.channel4.com/film/

click on "Enter Webchat," and log in. They're taking questions ahead of time.

I asked Michael to dump electronic voting machines into Boston Harbor (and I said why).

I also asked him what he thought about doing another film on the order of "F9/11," called "F11/2," which would start with the TV networks changing the exit polls on everybody's TV screens (which showed a Kerry win) --"adjusting" them to fit BushCon electronic tabulation "results" (Bush won)--then going to Ohio for the outrages there, covering other parts of the election farce, then ending with the assault on Fallujah the following week.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:53 PM
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55. I'm guessing the live chat will be at 3:30 pm Pacific (Calif.) time...
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 05:55 PM by Peace Patriot
...anybody know for sure?

Edit: Yes, the web says it's on in about an hour.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. I think I'm in!
Are you guys only seeing comments from the moderator?
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. I got this message when I entered.
"After the UK premiere of Fahrenheit 9/11 on Channel 4, director Michael Moore will be joining us for a live webchat for one hour from 11.30pm GMT on Thursday 27th January to answer your questions on all aspects of his film-making, opinions about the US government and what his future plans are."

I just lost my connection, but seem to be in again...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #56
62. MelissaB - yes! That's all there is right now. About 5 mins. to go.
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 06:29 PM by Peace Patriot
They just put up this comment as well:

A transcript of the live webchat will be available tomorrow at:

http://www.channel4.com/community

I don't know if this means we won't get one now. A bit confusing...

Edit: It may just mean, don't worry about grabbing it now, as it happens. They'll post the whole thing tomorrow.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #62
63. Sh*t! I keep getting knocked off. Do you?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #63
64. MelissaB: No, I've had a steady connection for about an hour. nt/t
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #64
68. Thanks for the info.
I lost connection probably 3 times, and now can't get in.

Has it started?
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:19 PM
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58. My first question:
How do we get a "fair and balanced" main stream media? If this isn't possible how can we create a strong alternative media that will compete with the MSM?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:24 PM
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60. To those who are upset about these photos: I want to confess...
...something. I have not been able to read ANY news article about Iraq, nor look at any photos, since 11/2. It is just too upsetting and disempowering, since I can do nothing about it.

If I am not willing to go to Iraq and personally intervene, at the risk of my life, nor go on a hunger fast, nor incinerate myself like the Buddhist monks did in Vietnam during the Vietnam war, nor pour my own blood on military hardware and otherwise present myself for arrest--as people like Frs. Ted and Daniel Berrigan, and others, did, during Vietnam, and like some Catholic Workers are still doing today--personally putting their bodies and lives on the line as witness against atrocity--then...

...I have to do what I can do. And that is Election Fraud and Election Reform.

The American people rejected this fascist regime and its war. They still reject it--by nearly 60% in recent opinion polls. But their will was not done. It was defied, and the election stolen.

So, this is not so such a matter of Americans' callousness. Yes, some are callous. But a majority are not, and they said "NO"! It's a matter of POWERLESSNESS--and to some extent despair and feelings of helplessness.

I want to do everything I can to enforce that "NO!"--to help people know what happened to their vote, and to empower them with something specific they can do--something doable.

They need to know WHY it's still going on, and why they're now spoiling for MORE invasions, more destruction. The "why" is election fraud.

Yesterday, only 13 members of Congress were willing to represent the MAJORITY of the people on this matter (on rejecting Condoleeza Rice, the architect of this slaughter). I praise them. I think that's progress. But 13? --with so many Americans against the war.?

Why is that? The "why" of that is Election Fraud.

Anyway, that's where I'm at, emotionally. I just wanted to say this for those who may be feeling something similar--especially activists.

I do NOT mean don't circulate the photos as widely as possible--not at all! The callous need to be stirred, and the forgetful reminded. Some portion of Americans DO tend to be oblivious. And it was pictures from Iraq at the BBC and other news sites that got ME into the election campaign. After Dean got hit (who was so right on about everything), I wasn't crazy about Kerry (because he voted for the Iraq war, when many others in Congress--124 of them--more savvy than he, better informed, and less political, did not). But I could see that we MUST get Bush out, and put a decent, intelligent man in--the kind of man who might be moved by these horrors, and would work to stop them.

So, for those who are asleep, or callous, or oblivious, yes, of course, circulate them. And also just for WITNESS. That this happened. That this is what it means.



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myschkin Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:26 PM
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61. Please

give him the exit polls studies of Baiman and Freeman...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:34 PM
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66. Okay, I'll try to do that. I have the urls handy. I put my email in a...
...question (yikes! ) and mentioned DU 2004 Election Forum.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:41 PM
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70. I sent the following in the question box:
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 06:43 PM by Peace Patriot
FYI, Michael Moore. Here are urls to expert analysis of '04 Election. All call the result into serious question. Dr. Freeman (U/Penn.) & Dr. (U/Chic.) are especially good.

All of these discuss the 2004 election Exit Polls:

Dr. Steven Freeman 1st study: http://www.truthout.org/unexplainedexitpoll.pdf
(also at: http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/11/Expldiscrpv00oPt1.pdf)

Dr. Steven Freeman 2nd study: http://www.appliedresearch.us/sf/epdiscrep.htm

Dr. Ron Baiman: http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/997

Dr. Webb Mealy: http://www.selftest.net/redshift.htm

Jonathan Simon:http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00142.htm

130,000 to 230,000 phantom votes for Bush in FLA (paper vs. electronic voting)
Dr. Michael Haut & UC Berkeley stats team: http://ucdata.berkeley.edu

Johns Hopkins report on electronic voting: http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00196.htm#5

Ohio vote suppression: http://www.bpac.info

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Edit. Oh, crap! I think the site went down before they got this info.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:13 PM
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103. Freeman's second paper is not available on the link you give...n/t
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:05 PM
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110. Ojai Person, I checked the Freeman links. They seem okay.
The Applied Research link (for 2nd paper) gets you to BOTH Freeman papers.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:34 PM
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65. is the site down for you too?
I think we may have crashed it :( too much traffic
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:36 PM
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67. I can't connect.
:cry:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:40 PM
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69. I can't connect either. n/t
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:44 PM
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71. It's back up. It's accepting questions again. I sent the Freeman, etc.,
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 06:47 PM by Peace Patriot
...info.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:46 PM
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72. Not for me!
:cry:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:47 PM
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73. me either n/t
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:48 PM
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74. This link says the chat is at 11:30 p.m. E.T.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:51 PM
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75. MM site says 6:30 eastern
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:51 PM
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76. NOT ET
GMT
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:52 PM
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77. We're 20 mins. into the scheduled webchat, and nothing new happening yet.
The site seemed to accept my question (the Freeman etc. urls) and cleared the form, but their text still says they're starting in about an hour, at 11:30 pm GMT. Am I right that that means 3:30 pm Pacific (Calif) time?

Maybe Michael is late.

It seems to me they acknowledged my other questions. Their set text still says "keep the questions coming."
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 06:54 PM
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78. I'm in!
Besure to click

http://www.channel4.com/community/launch_chat.jsp?chat=C4

and then choose the MM chat room
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #78
80. bad link
never mind. They aren't accepting any new ones
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:23 PM
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113. To those just joining this thread...
The Michael Moore webchat interview at England's Channel 4 yesterday was hacked by rightwing groups, according to the producers, and the live chat could not go on as scheduled (See MelissaB, below.)

But the interview went forward (they got some 4,000 questions). Here's the transcript:

http://www.channel4.com/community/showcards/F/Fahrenheit_911.html

I looked through it anxiously for any sign that Michael Moore is aware of the massive evidence of election fraud--and I found none. In his answers, he tries to explain why Bush "won." I am very dismayed. How could he be so clueless? And, if he makes a film about the election (I suggested the title "F11/2"--but I think my questions and info. got lost in the wave of questions), will his film be based on the misinformation that Bush "won"?

I am very concerned about this. See my posts below. IS THERE NO ONE WHO CAN GET ELECTION FRAUD INFO TO MICHAEL MOORE?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:01 PM
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79. Yeah, their site seems to have gone down.
In the page I had open, I sent a query about site going down, in the question box. It seemed to accept the query, and cleared the form--but their set text remains the same.

I opened a new window and tried another load of the webchat site. It won't load at all.

I'll keep an eye on it.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:06 PM
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81. Could somebody go here...
http://www.channel4.com/film/reviews/feature.jsp?V=10&SV=-1&id=112617

...click on "technical" (towards bottom of the text in the middle), and report their Michael Moore webchat is down.

I can't do it, for various reasons. Explain later.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:16 PM
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82. done! n/t
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:18 PM
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83. There is now a note
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 07:21 PM by MelissaB
that says, "Sorry, we are not accepting anymore logins due to sheer demand. Please come back later for a transcript."

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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:41 PM
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86. Did you guys bother to check
www.zonaeuropa.com

If you want to feed the medias a more friendly media. This site give you links to all of them in many countries.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #86
87. Hey, Oversea Visitor! Thanks for this web site.
I'm checking it out right now.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:00 PM
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90. OK
Time to get my sorry butt to office. 9.00 am here. Have fun there.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:38 PM
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95. Great link!
Thanks so much!
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:04 PM
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97. Has anybody else here seen this link?
It could be VERY useful, and I don't know if others (especially those media blasters) have seen this.

Also, if this is new it needs a thread on it's own so everybody can see it.
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Mr. Progress Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:00 PM
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89. From the Website
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 08:56 PM by Mr. Progress
Not sure is this is against rules, but here is a snippit from website right now.

Online Chat:

Moderator said: Thanks so much for all your questions - in excess of four thousand of them! We are so sorry we were delayed at the start due to circumstances beyond our control - we'll let you decide which conspiracy theory you want to atribute to it. That said, we were so grateful to Michael for hanging around and answering so many questions and staying on for the extra hour. Michael has now left the chat. Dont forget, a transcript of this event will be available tomorrow at www.channel4.com/community Thanks and goodbye from all at Channel4.
politics student wants to know: "I know I feel scared when I think about where this world could be heading. Whats your biggest fear or hope for the future?"
Michael Moore said: That people will educate themselves because information is the fear killer. Information, knowledge, enlightenment reduces fear level and helps you make rational decisions and that's my biggest hope.I know that watching the film tonight it must have been especially hard and pajnful knowing what we didn't know before we made the film - even the audience knew the outcome of the election in Nov and to think that this administration is going to put the world through another 4 years of this... is enough to make anyone sick. I feel on some level that the film did a lot of good in educating millions of americans as to what was going on - we got 7 million more peoiple to vote for kerry than voted for gore 4 years ago, but it's not the movie's name on the ballot it's the candidate and he wasn't everything we had hoped for. I have to be honest and say that i feel that i and others who worked around the clock to remove George W Bush that our sense of having failed weighs on us greatly because we didn't just fail ourselves and our country we failed you and the rest of the world, you were counting on us to get the job done and we didn't get the job done. I don't know what to say other than i'm not giving up and neither are millions of americans and i'm counting on you to not give up so that we can stop blair and bush - we owe it to the world and people of iraq. I remain cautiously optimistic that the people of each of our countries will rise to the occasion and do the right thing.
Ruben P. wants to know: "Right now, most networks in the USA seem rather.. biased. Insufficient or incorrect information is given a lot of times, How can that ever be changed?"
Michael Moore said: It can be changed by people constantly exposing their lies and half truths - their biases. It can be changed by people creating their own media by using the net to share information with each other.
matt wants to know: "hey micheal. Have you ever thought of running for President?"
Michael Moore said: No - there's a weight limit at the white house ;)
Sue Jolliffe wants to know: "Michael, in your opinion, why do you think the US public voted George Bush in again for a second term."
Michael Moore said: As the film says - fear works. Bush and his people did a masterful job of scaring US people into believing that if they didn't vote for him they would die. Crazy as that sounds - that's the magic that they worked. Fear will transcend everything.
James Watterson wants to know: "Do you think the UK government tried to bully the BBC news coverage over the "sexed up" dossier for war and after the Hutton report?"
Michael Moore said: 34. Oh absolutely and the BBC should not be backing down - whatever minor mistakes were made they pale in comparison to the tragic mistakes made by the Blair govt. No Brit has died as a result of what the BBC has done.
Oskar P. Einarsson wants to know: "Can you name at least one good thing (as agreed upon by all sides) that George W. Bush has done for U.S.A. since Jan. 2001?"
Michael Moore said: He's kind to his pets and he has raised two beautiful daughters.
anthony wants to know: "Had 9/11 not happened...would Bush of won a 2nd Term?"
Michael Moore said: No I don't.
Jeremy wants to know: "Hey Mike, I heard that you are going to make a Fahrenheit 9/11 2 is that true?? Take care and keep up the good work! Jeremy, Hopedale MA"
Michael Moore said: We'll have to see.
FrenchStudent wants to know: "When did you begin making Fahrenheit ? "
Michael Moore said: Like I said I started thinking about a week after sept 11th - the actual work on it took about a year and a half.
Ross Murray wants to know: "do you think that GWB could be held accountable in the future for his actions in Iraq?"
Michael Moore said: In a just world he would be but I don't see that happening. Unfortunately i think it's the american people who will pay the price for his deeds.
Phil G wants to know: "Do you think that the success of Mel Gibson's The Passion Of The Christ, a film based around Christian beliefs told us more about how the American public would vote rather than your own Farenheit 911?"
Michael Moore said: Yes.
James Watterson wants to know: "Do you think Bush really intends to attack Iran given the chaos and death toll in Iraq ?"
Michael Moore said: Yes i do but I don't think they won't do it the same way, I think they have learned their lesson but there are other ways for them to create havoc in Iran and in other countries.
Sabrina wants to know: "Did you get any good election fraud footage that you intend on using for a new documentary? We love you Michael Moore!!!!"
Michael Moore said: I don't usually talk too much about what I'm doing when i'm doing it. I'll just leave it at that :)
stuart c. wants to know: "why did so many democrats vote to confirm condoleeza rice? why was this such a slam dunk for her?"
Michael Moore said: It was a disgusting sight and indicative of who the Democrats are - they are lazy and they're cowards and I'm just hoping that the more they continue to act like that the more it will encourage Americans to run against them and put the US back in the hands of the working class where it belongs.
Cheryl Iantorno wants to know: "How best can we help the process of bringing the troops home, besides thanking those brave representatives?"
Michael Moore said: We need a massive anti-war movement that has to come from the US and UK, unlike the 60s it's impetus will not be from our campuses but rather it will come from our returning soldiers and the mothers and fathers of those who have lost their children in this war - they will become the core of the anti-war movement.
raymond danford wants to know: "Do you think Bush will finish out his second term or do you think one or more of the many scandals will catch up with him?"
Michael Moore said: You've just recited my nightly prayer thank you amen - we can only hope!
Debra Egan wants to know: "As a member of the military want to thank-you for all your hard work and devotion to helping the troops. Its too bad our government does not listen. "
Michael Moore said: Thank you for saying that and thank you for your service to your country and my deepest regrets that you and others who offered up this gift to us to defend us, if neccesary. it has everything to do with lining the pockets of the benfactors of George W Bush and Tony Blair.
Richard wants to know: "I know you may not have asked for this, but due to your courage in fighting for the truth, you have become a leader in the fight for justice in this country. Do you ever feel overwhelmed by this responsibility?? "
Michael Moore said: Not until you just said that - ohhh my back!!! Wait a minute argh there! I'm ok now :)
Greg (United States-IL) wants to know: "Hey,Mike-Are you going to expose the truth of the corrupt American tobacco companies, and if so, are you interviewing a CEO, in your next movie, "Sicko"? (That I'm highly anticipating)!"
Michael Moore said: No I think everyone knows the truth that they are corrupt already and i need to make films about things that people aren't quite aware of yet.
Harry Whittingham wants to know: "Michael, how did you respond to being made a suicide bomber in Trey Parker's recent film Team America? It seemed a tad unjust and targetless in whom it poked fun at. Cheers."
Michael Moore said: I have't seen the movie.
Graeme B. wants to know: "Michael you have been accused of manipulating/editing to show various facts/people in a negative light, whats your response to these aligations?"
Michael Moore said: I'm sorry you must have me confused with the sun! What's that other horrible one...the telegraph?! That's the one that tries to look like they re respectable right? All of the facts in my fils are irrefutable and you are welcome to go to my website where i have back up for each one and you can log on and see for yourself. The opinions in my movies are my own. I happen to think they are right because they are mine. I may not be, Yours may be right. It's to stimulate conversationm and debate and I hope I have done that.
Matt wants to know: "What do you make of the recent events showing British troops abusing Iraqi prisoners?"
Michael Moore said: In the words of the great george michael the poodle learns well from the master. The war itself is an act of immorality so every act by brit and american troops is an act of abuse and i feel very badly for those young men and women inthe UK and american armed forces who are there. as i said in the film - the larger immoral act begets many of the smaller immoral acts. Once we correct the larger imoral act and bring these kids home, the better. They are in the middle of a dispicable situation and I'm sure many of them have lost their moral compass and it makes me very sad. These kids who join up to serve in the Brit military - they volunteer to give up their lives, if necc to defend the UK and they should only be used in endeavours that have something to do with defending the lives of the british public and Iraq was not a threat to great britain and neither are the poor on Falls roads. Oops! Stick to the subject!
RM wants to know: "WHY DON'T YOU GO TO CANADA AND LIVE!!!"
Michael Moore said: I already live in something that resembles Canada it's called the State of Michigan - your governor here was born in canada and I always enjoy questions like this from people who somehow believe that they are more American than myself or others who question what's going on. But, you know don't knock the canadians alright? They're good people they believe that if you get sick it's a human right the you see a doctor and hey they still have the queen on the money!The canadians knew that you brits that you would just get bored with them and leave! They've got their own country without firing a gun! LOL The brits ar eleaving and they're going can we keep the queen on the money?!
J Alexander wants to know: "do you feel a moral superiority over individuals who do not think like you, isn't that what you want people to do?"
Michael Moore said: No, I do not. I respect all people including and especialy those who have an opposing viewpoint to mine i believe debate is healthy and discussion is good. It would be a scary world if we all operated with one mind. I don't believe that I have a moral superiority and not only that but I am constantly questionning my own morality. My feet are never in cement I'm always looking for ways to challenge how I see the world.
Mia Goodall wants to know: "Do you think there is any hope that the rest of the world will ever respect the United states again ?"
Michael Moore said: Yes, i think as soon as we get the white house back in the hands of the majority of this country. It's a majority who does not believe in the Bush administration, but unfortunately too many of them don't vote. I think that the US owes an apology to the Iraqi people and we need to make a commitment to make reparations to the damage they have done and British government would do well to join in.
wants to know: "Mr. Moore, If you are so concerned about helping our troops in Iraq, why don't you donate 100% of the money from your movies to that cause?"
Michael Moore said: I haven't seen a dime from this movie! My question then to you is what are you doing to try and stop this war I will promise you that i will donate as much of my time as i can in the coming months to see that anti Bush movement transfornms itself into a massive anti war movement so we can bring these troops home.
upyourego wants to know: "A lot of British people took a major interest in the presendential election in the US and as far as I can work out the next BIG chance to cause any change is in our general election in a few months. Which party are you backing, should Tony Blair and the Labour party be given 'one more chance' or is it really time for change?"
Michael Moore said: The labour party shold remove Tony Blair. As an Americam I don't really have a right to say any of this as it's your problem but it affects the rest of the world too. I wish there was an alterantive so that you wouldn't have to put a stamp of approval on what Blair has done. Did the liberal democrats ever get their shit together?
Andrew Burt wants to know: "Hi Mike, Well done at the People's Choice Awards, but do you regret pulling out of best documentary to run for Best Picture at the Oscars?"
Michael Moore said: Not at all, i had to pull our of best doc because the rules would not allow me to show fahrenheit 911 on TV before the nov election and that is what i wanted to do. I wanted as many americans as possible to see this film before voting and so by putting it on tv the film was disqualified by the rules of the academy. I just found out today that the academy has now changed the rules and will no longer prohibit a documentary from being aired on TV. It was more important to me to remove Bush than getting my second oscar.
George Ramirez wants to know: "What do you feel to be the biggest concern we should have about the policies that will be put forth by the Bush administration over the next four years?"
Michael Moore said: They are going to try and shift as much wealth from the middle class to the upper class as they can in these next 4 years - turning the middle class into the working poor. Number two they are going to attempt various acts of aggression against other countries around the world they will not all take the form of a ground invasion like they did in Iraq they have seen the folly in that so they will try other means to commit acts of violence and overthrow govts. Maybe they'll go back to the old way when saddam was their friend and just write cheques its a lot less bloody! LOL
Moderator said: You should be seeing Michaels answers appearing here.
Moderator said: We are currently running, after serious technical issues outwith our control.
Marc wants to know: "Before the showing of Farhenheit 911, you mentioned you had footage of the plane hitting the Pentagon and that you would show it on the film. To date, I have not seen the actual footage. Do you still have it and if so, why haven't you shown it to the world. Thank You. "
Michael Moore said: Just the opposite. I said that I don't have and no one has seen it and isn't it strange that no one saw it. We saw the twin tower planes a thousand times over. Having filmed at the petagon and noticed how the roof and parking lot - there must be a 100 cameras surrounding it at least if not more. There is footgae from numerous angles and we have never seen that. Why is that? I'm not suggesting there wasn't a plane i'm saying there is a reason why the governemtn doesn't want the world to see the plane hitting the pentagon and I'd like to know why that is.
ElectrO wants to know: "What are your views on how Bush used Religion to get the vote of the people as well as using all the negative campaigns against Kerry?"
Michael Moore said: Bush and the republicans have no shame and will resort to anything in order to win. The democrats show up to a gun fight with a butter knife and thus they lose.
David Haddrell wants to know: "Do you think there is a chance Jeb Bush will stand for presidency in 2008 and if so will you join me in hibernating deep in the Swiss Alps?"
Michael Moore said: Me laughs - why go to switzerland when freezing your ass off in canada is so close? I think he will yes. The deomcrats are going to have a very hard time winning the next election the republicans have a number of star players and the democrats have a lot of wimps and losers.
Nick Hill wants to know: "Do you ever fear for your personal safety? Have you ever had a run-in with a particularly irate Republican?"
Michael Moore said: The only tike I fear for my safety is when I think about stopping at McDonald's - the big mac will kill me long before those who have hacked and stopped this webchat tonight.
Chris Marsh wants to know: "If you had a short interview with George W. Bush, what would be the most important thing for you to ask him?"
Michael Moore said: Would you kindly pee in this cup?
Jeremy Dumkrieger wants to know: "Michael At what point did you say to yourself, I have to make Fahrenheit 9-11, I have to tell the American people the truth. "
Michael Moore said: Before I take this first question, I want to say that I feel really bad that Channel 4 innocently thought "wouldn't it be nice if had a film maker do a webchat" and unfortunately people of Channel 4 don't live in the US and didn't anticipate that certain americans when they learned of this webchat did not see it as a webchat with a film maker but with the devil himself and they discussed throughout the week how and what they could do to stop it. So my apologies to the Britsh audience who logged in thursday night to have this (the only one I have agreed to do this year) only to be prohibited to having this discussion with thanks to the lunatic right wing in the US. In answer to Jeremy's question . . .it was probably on a drivbe back across the country the week after sept 11th listening to Talk radio and people's response across the country and realising that americans didn't quite understand how the world felt about us.
Moderator said: We are solving the technical issue we are having with the chat.
Moderator said: We have been having serious issues with the chat and will give more information as we have it.
Moderator said: We are edging closer to our start time of 11:30pm... the chat will last around an hour.
Moderator said: There will be a transcript of this chat available on the http://www.channel4.com/community website tomorrow.
Moderator said: We will be starting the chat in 30 minutes, it should last around an hour.
Moderator said: Only an hour to go... we will be starting the chat at 11:30pm GMT.
Moderator said: Keep the questions coming, we will be starting a 11:30pm.
Moderator said: Thanks for entering the chat room. Michael will be joining us as planned at 11.30pm GMT - look forward to seeing you back here later.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:04 PM
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91. Thank you so much!
I'm still reading what you posted, but I wanted to say welcome to DU :hi:
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Mr. Progress Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:09 PM
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92. Thanks MelissaB, Im glad to be here
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:15 PM
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101. Thanks again for the chat!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:06 AM
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108. best part
Sabrina : Did you get any good election fraud footage that you intend on using for a new documentary? We love you Michael Moore!!!!

Michael Moore : I don't usually talk too much about what I'm doing when I'm doing it. I'll just leave it at that :)

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:11 PM
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93. Here's the url once again to get the transcript tomorrow:
http://www.channel4.com/community

Well, I think we got some good questions in there. We'll see what he has to say. I hope my Dr. Freeman etc. info. got through. That seemed to be the thing that broke the site (just kidding--obviously it didn't--it wasn't that long). I'm GLAD to see he had "too much traffic." High interest!

Could anybody figure out where this Channel 4 was located? Why do I think it's England?
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Smoochie Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 08:50 PM
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96. You're right, Channel 4 is a TV channel in the UK.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:10 AM
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104. He knows about the election fraud, was the feeling I got.
The other thing that got my attn. was having * pee in a cup.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:00 PM
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109. Unfortunately, I don't think he has a clue about election fraud...
Read these quotes:

Sue Jolliffe wants to know: "Michael, in your opinion, why do you think the US public voted George Bush in again for a second term."

Michael Moore said: As the film says - fear works. Bush and his people did a masterful job of scaring US people into believing that if they didn't vote for him they would die. Crazy as that sounds - that's the magic that they worked. Fear will transcend everything.

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Phil G wants to know: "Do you think that the success of Mel Gibson's The Passion Of The Christ, a film based around Christian beliefs told us more about how the American public would vote rather than your own Farenheit 911?"

Michael Moore said: Yes.

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ElectrO wants to know: "What are your views on how Bush used Religion to get the vote of the people as well as using all the negative campaigns against Kerry?"

Michael Moore said: Bush and the republicans have no shame and will resort to anything in order to win. The democrats show up to a gun fight with a butter knife and thus they lose.

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Moore: i think as soon as we get the white house back in the hands of the majority of this country. It's a majority who does not believe in the Bush administration, but unfortunately too many of them don't vote.

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DOESN'T ANYONE HERE HAVE AN AVENUE FOR GETTING INFO TO MICHAEL MOORE?

I'm afraid my questions suggesting that Michael do an action throwing electronic voting machines into Boston Harbor, doing a new film called "F11/2," and providing him the urls to the Freeman, Baiman and other reports, got lost in the 4,000 questions they received.

If Michael is doing a film about the election, how can we prevent him from putting out the mis-information that Bush "won"?

Let's have a DU contest: WHO CAN GET DR. STEVEN FREEMAN'S REPORTS (ETC.) TO MICHAEL MOORE???
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:11 PM
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111. I've been sending information about Ohio since the first week of
the election. He did start supporting Conyers by putting links about Ohio when they came out. After the election, when interviewed and asked "what happened" he says "Bush got more votes" and he is technically correct (according to the certified results). I'm not so sure that he doesn't believe, but that he's playing their game (yes, this could be an idealistic dream of mine) -- of telling people (mainly Republicans) what they want to hear.... "nothing happened" The "religious vote" overshadowed everyone else, "long lines" are just an election-day problem we need to deal with...

That said, you could keep e-mailing him (I love your e-machines into the Boaston Harbor) -- or send him stuff via snail mail. I read on the General Discussion board a couple of weeks ago that he was supposedly supporting a Billboard campaign -- and that there was a committee meeting about this these billboards -- does anyone know about it here? I'm sorry I don't remember what day it was.... my suggestion -- keep feeding him and his staff information -- it can't hurt, and.... you just never know.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:13 PM
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112. url for full Michael Moore webchat interview...
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:54 AM
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105. Email from Channel 4
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 07:01 AM by MelissaB
Dear Melissa,

Thanks for your email - please accept our apologies for the disruption to our webchat last night. The servers were brought to a halt by a group of anti-Michael Moore activists whose entire aim was to bring down the webchat. We did manage to overcome the technical issues we had with security and carried out the webchat an hour after the publicised time.

A transcript of this webchat will be on http://www.channel4.com/film for you to read later on this afternoon.

Many thanks and please accept our apologies on behalf of Michael Moore. We hope to see you back in our chatroom for future live events.

Regards,

channel4.com/film
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Gary173 Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:53 AM
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106. The truths of war
These photos are not for those who would refuse to see how inhumane this war, just as the one I fought in Vietnam, really is.

http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_page1.htm
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #106
115. Welcome Gary173!
I see that we live in the same state! :hi:


Also, is anybody collecting all the links for pictures that have been posted lately? I'm not sure what we could do with them, but it would be nice to have them all in one place.
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RockStar Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:22 AM
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116. Cant wait till his next movie
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