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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:43 PM
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REGARDING BOXER
There are a lot of things up in the air right now, and none of the media sources that have reported have the entire story.

Now would be a good time to drop Senator Boxer a line. Be polite. "Discuss and highlight." Speak from the heart.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:44 PM
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1. It does truly seem like that our calls maybe the thing that tips the scale
n/t
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marc_the_dem Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:45 PM
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2. dare I say it...
will there be a Boxer Rebellion tomorrow?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:45 PM
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3. Kick. n/t
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darkworkz Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:45 PM
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4. give her the law.
the truth shall set her (and the rest of us) free. Thanks hootinholler:

Comes from Bush V Gore in Justice Breyer\'s dissent, when speaking as to why the Court should not have heard the case to begin with: (Emphasis mine)

To the contrary, the Twelfth Amendment commits to Congress the authority and responsibility to count electoral votes. A federal statute, the Electoral Count Act, enacted after the close 1876 Hayes-Tilden Presidential election, specifies that, after States have tried to resolve disputes (through “judicial” or other means), Congress is the body primarily authorized to resolve remaining disputes. See Electoral Count Act of 1887, 24 Stat. 373, 3 U.S.C. § 5 6, and 15.

The legislative history of the Act makes clear its intent to commit the power to resolve such disputes to Congress, rather than the courts:

“The two Houses are, by the Constitution, authorized to make the count of electoral votes. They can only count legal votes, and in doing so must determine, from the best evidence to be had, what are legal votes .... The power to determine rests with the two Houses, and there is no other constitutional tribunal.” H. Rep. No. 1638, 49th Cong., 1st Sess., 2 (1886) (report submitted by Rep. Caldwell, Select Committee on the Election of President and Vice-President).

The Member of Congress who introduced the Act added:

“The power to judge of the legality of the votes is a necessary consequent of the power to count. The existence of this power is of absolute necessity to the preservation of the Government. The interests of all the States in their relations to each other in the Federal Union demand that the ultimate tribunal to decide upon the election of President should be a constituent body, in which the States in their federal relationships and the people in their sovereign capacity should be represented.” 18 Cong. Rec. 30 (1886).

The way I read this, there is no requirement of evidence. The only requirement is a compelling enough argument. Once a challengable vote is in fact challenged, each Congressman is Duty Bound by thier oath of office to act in judgement of the acceptability of the electoral votes from that state.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:46 PM
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5. Dropped her an e-mail last evening...
live in California, so I hope she reads it!
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:48 PM
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6. Here is her contact info
Washington D.C.
112 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-3553

Sacramento
501 I Street, Suite 7-600
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 448-2787
(916) 448-2563 fax

San Francisco
1700 Montgomery Street, Suite 240
San Francisco, CA 94111
(415) 403-0100
(415) 956-6701 fax

Los Angeles
312 N. Spring Street, Suite 1748
Los Angeles, CA 90012
(213) 894-5000
(213) 894-5042 fax

Fresno
1130 O Street, Suite 2450
Fresno, CA 93721
(559) 497-5109
(559) 497-5111 fax

San Diego
600 B Street, Suite 2240
San Diego, CA 92101
(619) 239-3884
(619) 239-5719 fax

Inland Empire
201 North E Street, Suite 210
San Bernardino, CA 92401
(909) 888-8525
(909) 888-8613 fax
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:15 PM
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16. done
just called her office
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:48 PM
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7. We The People.....it always is about what we DO. (n/t)
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:48 PM
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8. Link to Boxer's email address
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:51 PM
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9. Phone/fax numbers for Senator Boxer
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 03:52 PM by seito
I just tried to call her local office, and the voice mail box it full.

Washington D.C.
112 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-3553

Sacramento
501 I Street, Suite 7-600
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 448-2787
(916) 448-2563 fax

San Francisco
1700 Montgomery Street, Suite 240
San Francisco, CA 94111
(415) 403-0100
(415) 956-6701 fax

Los Angeles
312 N. Spring Street, Suite 1748
Los Angeles, CA 90012
(213) 894-5000
(213) 894-5042 fax

Fresno
1130 O Street, Suite 2450
Fresno, CA 93721
(559) 497-5109
(559) 497-5111 fax

San Diego
600 B Street, Suite 2240
San Diego, CA 92101
(619) 239-3884
(619) 239-5719 fax

Inland Empire
201 North E Street, Suite 210
San Bernardino, CA 92401
(909) 888-8525
(909) 888-8613 fax


edit: opps, already posted, but it doesn't hurt to see it again :bounce:
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:04 PM
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13. KICK Does anybody have a DC fax number for her that works?
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:09 PM
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14. no- congress.org sends you to the San Francisco fax
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:20 PM
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17. just emailed her...
said there are millions of us out here and only a few of them in there, and we need someone to stand up for us. You know what? even if she doesn't believe there was fraud, she or someone should still stand up, JUST TO SHOW US WE ARE REPRESENTED. Otherwise, millions of us are disenfranchised and marginalized.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:57 PM
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10. KICK and working on it now
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m.standridge Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:01 PM
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11. Has anyone gotten her this file from New Zealand
with the "original" Mitofsky exit poll data?
It's in Japanese. It would help if it were in English, but in any case, it helps the case for Kerry. It seems to be the data referred to by Prof. Freeman in his first "Exit Poll Discrepancy" paper. He said at that time the data were not immediately available for mass publication, but perhaps the Senator would like to see these.
These might be persuasive to several senators, and also to the MSM?
It would need to be done in a hurry.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:02 PM
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12. What file in Japanese?
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:15 PM
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15. Got through to Fresno and LA, others busy. Keep calling!
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mountebank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:21 PM
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18. Just got FAX through (L.A. office) signed by 14 constituents!
Here is text:

Senator Barbara Boxer
312 N. Spring Street, Suite 1748
Los Angeles, CA 90012

5 January 2005

Dear Sen. Boxer,

As your constituents, we would like to request that you stand with Rep. John Conyers and others tomorrow to object to Ohio's slate of electors. Ample evidence exists that the voting process in Ohio was tainted from top to bottom, with widespread disenfranchisement of poor, urban voters and possible malfeasance in ballot tallying.

Please do not repeat the heart-breaking scene from 2000 when no Senator stood with the Black Caucus to object to widespread disenfranchisement of black voters in Florida.

We believe that a clean and fair election in Ohio would have produced a different outcome on Nov. 2. Regardless of this opinion, we believe that voting reform is necessary in Ohio and the rest of the U.S. Objecting to Ohio’s electors would send a powerful message that voting reform can no longer be ignored.

And as we see in Washington State, hard-right Republicans will stop at nothing to see that their candidate lands in office. There is nothing to gain by "unity" when the other side disdainfully views such gestures as a sign of the weak, furthering their desire to dominate us.

Sincerely,
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feminazi Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:26 PM
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19. her phone lines are busy, busy busy
so are feinstein's tho i wouldn't hold my breath waiting for her to stand up. guess i'll email them both.
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