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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:27 PM
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I still believe we are going to see a bombshell on the 6th
Yes I may be a cockeyed optimist, but I have read too much about too many people inside the government that desperately want these bunch of thieves hung out to dry. If so, this is their time to let fly. Where it will come from and what it will be is of course unknown to us. But, I truly believe that Conyers is in possession of evidence that will "seal the deal". I guess the good news is that there is so much out there that it wouldn't take all that much to bring it to the surface, especially in a meeting in which the whole country and media is watching. So I say bring up the lights, raise the curtain and let the show begin! Let's just hope it is a blockbuster.
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dobegrrrl Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:28 PM
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1. I am going to let my government class watch
with hopes that WONDERFUL history is made.
:bounce:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:13 AM
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:19 PM
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58. What wonderful idea!
Do you teach in K-12 or is it a college course?
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:29 PM
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2. I hope you are correct!
:toast:
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:29 PM
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3. I hope so too!!!!!!
My fingers/back/neck are screaming from all of the typing I did in a short period of time tonight. More Dem Senators need straight e-mail...webforms are torture! I got every Dem Senator though...asked them to stand.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:30 PM
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4. i hope to god you are right
i have the same optimism, but i have very bad luck, so i don't always take my optimism seriously :evilfrown:
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:40 PM
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12. Faye you always make me smile. n/t
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:30 PM
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5. I like your optimism!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

I hope its a BALL-Buster!
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dalloway Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:33 PM
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6. kick it up for us optimists!!! n/t
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Blossom Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:37 PM
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9. I pray that you are right!
Love your optimism! Let us pray that you are right. I also believe that Conyers has evidence that he has not made public. Let's hope it is a bombshell!!!!!!!!!!!!!YES, There is a smidgen of HOPE!
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:38 PM
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11. Go Optimists! n/t
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Dark Secret Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:35 PM
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7. Dream on.... n/t
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:35 PM
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8. Yes! Let the play begin
and let it get rave reviews from all!
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:38 PM
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10. Optimists are so adorable. n/t
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:42 PM
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13. I start to feel this way
then here people on AAR say no one will challenge there chickens bla bla bla

I cant help but feel that BB is going to do it
and when this information got out.....
They had to say, well maybe it could happen . :shrug:

The weirdest thing is
Clinton saying she does not know anything about it on the radio
(from another post here at DU)
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Ugnmoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:48 PM
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14. I just don't buy this b.s. that Clinton doesn't know
I think they are all covering their asses just in case things don't go as planned. But I do believe they all know pretty darn well what is going down. They just don't want it look like it was well orchestrated. They want to say that the evidence presented to them was so compelling that they just had to take action!
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mary195149 Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:53 PM
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16. That right there is to strange,
how could Hilary Clinton not have heard anything? There has got to be some works behind closed doors. Or none of it even makes sense.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:06 PM
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24. yes i agree , it sure look like what you are saying
I cant imagine her being that "out of touch with reality"
She could have said she is looking into it and not sure what she will do.
.keep it open

but his ...adah dunno makes her sound foolish
I guess thats what politicians do to keep the focus of them
but this was over the top.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:27 AM
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41.  But elsewhere she said she sent a legal team to the Conyers hearing!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:31 AM
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43. There Is NO Excuse for Any Elected Democrat NOT to Know
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 04:32 AM by leftchick
WTF is going on with the Election process in the USA... Send every single one of them this thread!!

:grr:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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bywho4who Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:49 PM
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15. If The little
Prick (43) Goes down Daddy will get mad and blood will be shed. sure as the wind blows.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:54 PM
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17. I agree with you about the government insiders.
A lot of them are "lowly peasants" though according to *Co. I would be THRILLED to see some of the ones I know vindicated. A lot of Gov't workers are EXTREMELY fed up with this administrations antics! If you don't already know the gridlock in the federal government branches is outrageous and people are leaving in droves.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:56 PM
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18. I still believe...
...I've got a shot with Beyonce.

But I certainly hope you're right...
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:56 PM
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19. I love optimists. I hope you are right. It would truly change history.
and save us from 'four more years of hell' btw.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:58 PM
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20. I am praying you are right, I believe we all would be happy to see it
:kick:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:01 PM
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21. This is my fervent prayer!!!
Let 'r rip!!!!! :nuke:


WHAT ARE THEY HIDING??? :think: :think: :think:
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:02 PM
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22. Could be why
Kerry chose now to go to the Middle East...be out of the country, so therefore he didn't instigate it.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:08 PM
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26. Kerry cannot be involved with this
Whatever one thinks of Kerry and his concession at this time, it was/is a very wise move for him to be out of the country.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:04 PM
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23. Either a bombshell or a bomb
But both will be worth checking out. One can hope for the best.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:08 PM
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25. Kick!!!!!!!1
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
for optimism.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:41 PM
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27. Kick again for optimism - it sure beats the alternative
:kick:
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:47 PM
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28. Dayton is meeting with CASE tomorrow
to review the evidence of fraud. He was out of the country and is not up on it all. Hopefully he'll be one of our heros!
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m.standridge Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:58 PM
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31. I'm trying to be hopeful
there are things that can be done.
Electors voting for people besides Bush, for example, might be one.
But as long as it appears Bush has this huge Popular vote lead, many are intimidated.
It's so sad these heavy academics about the exit polls, are getting NO MSM exposure at all.
I wish we could change that overnight.
Obama, Hillary, Boxer, Dayton are the names I keep hearing.

And Sen. Byrd. Or maybe Kerry himself. Some of them seem to be overseas. What does that mean?
That one of the pitiful little bodies found in the muck of Indonesia, may be the body of US democracy?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:26 AM
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42. you mean Walternative?
i couldn't help it ! !
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:49 PM
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29. A good movie starts with a dark theater.
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 11:50 PM by bleever
That was either Confucius, Aeschylus, or...Maybe us?

(Cue sound of popcorn popping.)



edit: sp, dang
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:51 PM
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30. Is that fresh popcorn I smell? I like mine with butter no salt. n/t
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:18 AM
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39. OMG
Now you have made me want popcorn!!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:02 AM
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32. I so hope you are right. Keeping the faith here. n/t
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:39 AM
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33. I keep thinking of two things Kerry said during the campaign
I don't remember exactly what he said and don't have links but the two things were these: In regard to the potential for Republican dirty tricks and cheating in the election, he said something like "They better not try it." He also said something like "they're the crookedest bunch" that ever was or that he ever saw.

Neither of those are the kind of things that politicians say. The first would be like daring them to, and he better be prepared to back up his implied threat. The second, although many may think it, they just don't say things like that into microphones. Maybe he was ready to back it up; maybe he already had whistleblower spies in Diebold, Triad, etc.

But why wait so long? Bush has pardon power till Jan. 20. Better to wait as long as possible to reveal anything, so they have less time to react. Even then reveal as little as possible.

A couple more things:

I haven't seen any mention of this on DU, and I'm a little surprised that there's no speculation about it. In prep school, Kerry played on lacrosse and hockey teams captained by Robert Mueller, current head of the FBI. They crossed paths again during the BCCI investigation. I haven't found any indication of any friendship between them, and Mueller seems to be a fairly typical repub stooge, but maybe he has a shred or two of integrity. I seem to remember during his nomination hearings that there was some suggestion of that. Anyway, the number of Google hits on -- "John Kerry" "Robert Mueller" -- is increasing fairly rapidly. A week ago it was 6660 hits, tonight is 7010. I don't know what to make of that.

Odd stuff is happening: Hilary says she doesn't know anything about a challenge. Yeah, right! Other senators saying odd things and seeming to contradict themselves. Kerry being out of the country now. It's still odd that he sent all those lawyers back to Ohio to prove that Bush won fair and square; still doesn't make any sense. There's still no sniping at Kerry as a candidate from Dem insiders; plenty here on DU but insiders aren't bashing him; that always happens. Something weird is going on.

Also a couple very subjective and wu-wu things: I've just unaccountably gotten a good feeling during the last day or so; I've been alternately devastated, angry, and depressed since an hour after the polls closed on the east coast and now suddenly I feel good. My unaccountable shifts in feelings and attitudes often correspond with external reality.

Tonight the team from one of the bluest of the blue states (USC) whomped on the team from one of the reddest of the red states (Oklahoma) for the college football national championship. An omen? I can hope.

Finally, take this with many grains of salt or else just ignore it: About a month before the election I did a remote viewing session about who would beome president Jan. 20. I deliberately avoided framing it as who would win the election because I already suspected Diebold et al would try to steal it if it looked like they'd lose, so asking that question invited ambiguous and weird answers. The answer to my question was that Kerry would, because of help from some Republican, and it seemed like something that would happen after election day; I thought of McCain as possibly the Repub but that seemed to be my own analytical overlay. Make of it what you will, if anything.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:26 AM
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37. And don't forget that the Packers beat the Skins, 28-14.
Late 4th quarter, it looked like the Skins had won. But their touchdown was called back on a penalty. On the next play, they were intercepted, which soon led to a Packers touchdown. Then one more for good measure - and what had looked like certain defeat, turned into a convincing victory.

We may still see it happen here, too.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:25 AM
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40. To be a criminal
you got to commit a crime.
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:33 AM
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44. What is a remote viewing? n/t
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:46 PM
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59. Remote viewing = psychic spying
Like the CIA used to do. There are now lots of courses in how to do it, from former members of the CIA program and also outsiders. I was using one of those techniques. (That's why all my disclaimers about grains of salt, etc.)
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Democrat Dragon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:51 AM
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34. I kinda doubt it
but there is still hope in the air. Especially with that big protest in front of the Capitol.

KEEP HOPE ALIVE!

:bounce: :bounce: :kick: :thumbsup: :headbang: :party:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:56 AM
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35. It will happen. And, for weeks, for example, we had all kinds...
....of rants of "where's Michael Moore"; "Michael Moore is traitor"; "that &%$#(*&^^$ Moore saying that stuff on Leno, in that suit, what at *&($#((#) he is"; and ...................

Well, just a bit earlier today (4 Jan 2005) lookie what appears on Michael Moore's 'front page' -- timing is everything:

First, check the photo of Congressman Conyers:

http://www.michaelmoore.com /

Does that look like a person you want to know that you disenfranchised countless voters and committed all kinds of other illegal actions?

Now, read the letter:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=...

And, please do what Michael requests. And, do send the letter to every person you know, in the next 12 hours.

Peace.

"We Have NO Election"
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:08 AM
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36. I believe it, too
It's going to be a fascinating day! :toast:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:53 AM
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38. I do too.
I just hope the media covers it. And that C-Span's coverage of it isn't "pulled" if it gets dicey.

Keep hope alive! We're almost there!
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swami Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:04 AM
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45. Do you people have any idea--ANY idea-....
...how far removed from reality you are?
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Darknyte7 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:09 AM
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47. Hey there!
Let me be the first to welcome you to DU! :hi:

But to answer your question, no we don't know just how far removed we are from reality. Can you fill us in?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:16 PM
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:27 AM
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51. Please! Tell me more! I am all ears! n/t
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bmoney07 Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:07 AM
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46. get your popcorn ready
and maybe the champagne!

:)
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:23 AM
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49. KEEP THE FAITH, GET THE POPCORN n/t
.
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krrywon Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:23 AM
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48. keep
dreaming!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:24 AM
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50. hmm
your name+that comment :shrug:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:28 AM
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52. Now where did I put that category list of yours?
:toast:
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Darknyte7 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:57 AM
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53. The catagory list WAS tight!
I hadn't had a chance to thank you for that Faye.

:)
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nmoliver Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:03 AM
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54. Why I am hopeful
I am hopeful because the Senators who intend, or who may intend, to contest the electors are apparently holding their cards close to their chests until tomorrow morning, as William Pitt reported regarding Sen. Boxer.

People like Nelson, Kennedy and Leahy have already announced their positions. It's a nice safe move for them, no harm can come except from people like us, who of course don't count very much.

The Senators who "haven't decided yet", i.e., haven't announced yet, give me the hope I hold on it.
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neek Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:29 AM
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56. I don't know what to think anymore

up and down and up and down and up and down


:crazy:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:47 PM
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60. Jan 6th? -- Either way it's going to be a "bombshell" !!!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:24 PM
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61. I agree Ugnmoose, something is brewing here and the
anticipation is so thick.
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