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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:43 AM
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The 2004 Election Is Unconstitutional
http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft_essay_2005_01_04_voting_rights_tuesday_the_2004_election_was_unconstitutional.asp


US Constitution, Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The Fourteenth Amendment was adopted on July 28, 1868. This post-Civil War amendment was to undo Black Codes passed in states such as Mississippi which treated blacks (mostly newly freed slaves there at that time) differently from whites.


But in the 2004 election, blacks in Ohio were treated differently than whites.


There were fewer voting machines-per-citizen in black neighborhoods than in white neighborhoods ("Hearings on Ohio voting put 2004 election in doubt" by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman, November 18, 2004.)


This was to suppress the black vote.


The diversion of voting machines from black neighborhoods to white neighborhoods was engineered by Republican Matt Damschroder of Ohio.


Matt Damschroder is the Franklin County Board of Elections Director


Some blacks in Ohio could not vote if they could not wait in line for seven hours. Most white voters could vote in less than an hour.


This violates the Equal Protection Clause of the US Constitution.


There should be a new vote in Ohio in which black and white citizens have equal access to voting machines.


From the Ohio Free Press ("None dare call it voter suppression and fraud" by Bob Fitrakis, November 7, 2004):


The Columbus Dispatch confirmed an Election Day Free Press story that far fewer voting machines were present in predominantly black Democratic inner-city voting wards than in the recent primary election and the 2000 presidential election, with their lighter turnouts. The reduced number of machines caused voters to wait up to seven hours and wait an average of approximately three hours. One Republican Central Committee member told the Free Press that Damschroder held back as many as 200 machines and dispersed many of the other machines to affluent suburbs in Franklin County.

On January 6, 2005, US Senators will have a chance to challenge Ohio's electors. I'm not expecting any Senators to do so.


I'm not expecting the courts to help, either. No matter how crooked an election is, no judge is willing to order a new election.


The sad reality is that Republicans can violate the US Constitution with impunity.


People involved in crooked elections are rewarded, not punished. Katherine Harris, who suppressed the black vote in Florida in 2000, is now a US Congressperson. Florida Governor Jeb Bush was re-elected in 2002.


I wonder if Matt Damschroder of Ohio will be rewarded by the Republican Party.

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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:45 AM
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1. This is right on!!!
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gmoses Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:48 AM
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2. kick for civil rights
Dems have to tell their elected reps - we're proud to be the party of civil rights - so represent us already!
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:18 AM
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12. Yea right. Dems are the party of the Patriot Act.
Not civil rights anymore.
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gmoses Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:40 AM
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23. so we agree
where the dems should be
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SicTransit Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:48 AM
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3. The Franklin county Board of Elections chairman is
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 12:55 AM by SicTransit
William A. Anthony Jr., who is also the chairman of the Franklin County Democratic Party - and he says the person who was responsible for the allocation of machines was a Democratic supervisor.

http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2004/11/27/20041127-B1-02.html

"Board of Elections Chairman William A. Anthony Jr. said he’s offended by accusations from "a band of conspiracy theorists."
Anthony, chairman of the Franklin County Democratic Party, said long lines weren’t caused by the allocation of machines — a process controlled by a Democratic supervisor, he added — but by higher turnout, the overall lack of voting machines and a ballot that included more than 100 choices for some voters.

He said board members discussed renting punch-card machines to supplement the county’s 2,886 electronic voting booths, but they decided against the idea upon advice from Blackwell. LoParo said Blackwell would not have given such advice. "I doubt that was the case," he said yesterday.

A second type of machine would have been confusing, Anthony said, and the controversial punch cards likely would have brought objections from those asked to use them.

Anthony said he is personally offended by the allegations.

"I am a black man. Why would I sit there and disenfranchise voters in my own community?" he said. "I feel like they’re accusing me of suppressing the black vote. I’ve fought my whole life for people’s right to vote."
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:58 AM
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5. Perhaps they don't want to believe Blackwell did any harm...
From 1998 over 1700 Ohio precincts were lost while we've gained over 800,000 voters.... (see thread here http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x230311 )
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:59 AM
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6. Right. It was Matt and Ken. n/t
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:08 AM
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8. There were fewer voting machines per citizen in black
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 01:08 AM by Eric J in MN
neighborhoods than white neighborhoods.

Of course that is a matter of allocation of the machines.

Ohio and every other state had access to millions of dollar in HAVA funding.

Why didn't Franklin County Elections Director Matt Damschroder use that money to buy enough voting machines?

This is suppression of the black vote.

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SicTransit Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:12 AM
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10. I repeat -
The Franklin county Board of Elections chairman is William A. Anthony Jr., who is also the chairman of the Franklin County Democratic Party - and he says the person who was responsible for the allocation of machines was a Democratic supervisor - as quoted in the article the URL to which I gave above.

You're claiming that the chairman of the Franklin County Democratic Party, who also happens to be black, suppressed the black vote. That is a pretty outrageous accusation.



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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:21 AM
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13. Well, Zell Miller is supposedly a democrat, too.
And Blackwell is black, but still wanted the black vote to be suppressed. You can still be crooked as a black dem.
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:28 AM
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17. So you think he's a criminal too?
Assault is a crime, too. How could one not know that the dems would show up in big numbers? He's an idiot at the very least.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:31 AM
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:35 AM
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20. Well, has he officially apologized yet?
Or called for a revote since it wasn't fair? Seems he would do something to make up for his mistake if he really gave a damn.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:25 AM
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16. I'm not accusing William A. Anthony Jr of anything,
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 01:26 AM by Eric J in MN
other than being wrong in attributing the distribution of voting machines to a Democrat.

I trust the Bob Fitrakis articles which say that Republican Matt Damschroder, the Director of the Board of Elections, was resposible.

Bob Fritakis is a lawyer and a Ph.D in political science.

Your own excerpt from your article has William A. Anthony Jr saying Republcan and Ohio Sec. of State Ken Blackwell told him NOT to get more machines.

It hardly makes the case against Republican suppression of the black vote.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:35 AM
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21. Public officials want to reassure the public that everything
is ok and there was not malice.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:38 AM
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:46 AM
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24. I think that Matt Damschroder is responsible because
I trust the reporting of Bob Fritakis.

I think William A. Anthony Jr is shifting the focus, per the usual message of public officials that all is well and there was no malice.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:50 AM
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:53 AM
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29. I'll comment more after I've read the full article you're referring to.
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 01:53 AM by Eric J in MN
I can't access it right now because of the registration requirement.
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SicTransit Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:01 AM
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30. There is a web site out there that gives logins to
almost every news site so you can see the articles - I forget the name. Maybe someone passing by will know it.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:03 AM
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31. My last comment of the evening here is that more than one
person can be involved in allocating voting machines in a county, and so no lying is required for Matt D. and someone else to have been involved.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:27 PM
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34. And you are clinging to the idea that Bob Fritakis just
made up the multiple articles he wrote for the Ohio Free Press in which he describes Republican Matt Damschroder's involvement in diverting and witholding voting machines to suppress the black vote.

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SicTransit Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:09 PM
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35. Once again - when I see a Democratic official who is
in charge of Franklin county BOE, who has no reason to lie, contradict Fritakis on matters of Franklin County BOE business, yes, I would assume Fritakis is wrong. That's the most logical assumption.
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chorti Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 07:10 PM
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39. I recall reading that Anthony said
that the distribution of machines was based on a report and recommendations by a consultant hired by Damschroder. The method of distribution seemed fair so it was approved by Anthony and the Board, as well as both REP and DEM staff.

But the method was anything but fair. See my (old) analysis <http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/12/1708672.php>.
We need to see the consultant's report.

But I can tell you this. I could write a report recommending the allocation of machines that would seem completely perfectly fair, based on the allocation made in Franklin County, yet was anything but fair. That's what a good consultant does. S/he fools the Democrats on the Board and the Deputy Director.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:39 AM
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44. SicTransit, I am a little concerned about your motives.
This is the second thread today that I have witnessed you aggressively arguing with someone who suggests the possibility of suppression of the black vote in Ohio, which as most of us know, is widely believed to have happened. There is VIDEOTAPE of black voters having doors slammed in their faces at the polls.

Earlier today you confronted me for suggesting this was a concern. Now you are aggressively attacking this point again. Of all the theories floating around about what exactly happened in Ohio on Nov. 2, suppression of the black vote has been MOST clearly demonstrated with overwhelming amounts of evidence to support it.

You can sit on these threads and tell us that it never happened until you are blue in the face.

I suggest instead you tell that to the thousands of black voters in Ohio who stood in the freezing rain for hours on end and never got to vote.

What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Your arguments seem a little too vehement to be considered casual objections.
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SicTransit Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:08 AM
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45. I never argued that there were no
ridiculously long lines, that there was no lack of machines, that people did not stand in lines for hours and hours etc. Those things are facts, and it would be ridiculous to argue against them. If that is what you call "suppression of black vote" - of course it happened.

To me, though, "suppression" implies malicious intent. Of that, I see no evidence whatsoever, considering that the people who are responsible for ordering and allocating the machines are both R and D, and in Franklin county's case the direct responsibility for allocation of machines to precincts falls on a Democrat. I know it may make you warm and fuzzy to feel that it was the evil Republicans causing all this, but if you and others continue thinking so, there will be no fixing the actual problem, which is not "evil Republicans" but apparently just an appalling lack of planning and disorganization on the local BOE level in some places.

This is not a "casual objection". This is the truth, and, unlike some people here, I support what I post with cites. I seriously dislike people spreading disinformation, it is a quirk of mine, and when I see it, I try to correct it. You may not want to see the facts - then I suggest you put me on ignore.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:04 AM
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48. I don't need to ignore you...
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 06:06 AM by Vektor
Nor can I be assured that what you are saying is "the facts." I am not unwilling to hear what you have to say - but I think it may be possible that you are being a bit closed-minded yourself. Just because you have a firmly rooted opinion that there was no malicious intent does not mean it didn't happen.

I seek no comfort in "blaming evil Republicans."
You are simplifying everyone who suspects malicious intent with one blanket statement...that we are looking for someone to blame.

Not the case. I am sure many people besides myself believe the disenfranchising may very well have been deliberate, though we wish it wasn't so. Perhaps completely refusing to accept the possibility that this was more than just "bad planning", as you are doing, might not be helping the investigations either.

I think your posts sometimes seem to be attacks, which is why I was concerned. To disagree is normal, but you seem to want anyone who doesn't agree with you to abandon their viewpoint, but you don't seem to want to be flexible with yours.

ANYTHING could have happened in Ohio on Nov. 2. We don't know all the facts, so we should keep an open mind while the matter is investigated.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:36 AM
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46. It's funny how I can still see what's going on after
I've put certain people on ignore. These types never quit haranguing the people who use LOGIC to come to the conclusion that fraud and suppression DID happen. :hi: HI, TRANSIT. GLAD I CAN'T SEE YA :hi:
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:56 AM
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47. from other discussions of the election....you refuse to see any problem
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:38 PM
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36. The "machine buying" business has a nice footprint in the media.
There were a few choices:
--buy new machines, like the ones that are used, knowing that they'll be disposed of before the next election and there won't be replacement money; Anthony called this fiscally foolish (my paraphrase, not a quote, I don't think).
--replace the current machines, i.e., with those with no paper trail (we wouldn't like that option)
--and I believe the Franklin board was deadlocked over the issue--they couldn't decide ... which means Blackwell would have decided; instead they tabled the purchase for a while; and we wouldn't like *that* option.

Anthony took responsibility for it. And, truth be told, I'd have done exactly the same thing that he did: ensuring equal numbers of voters per machine is a utopian vision, and as long as different communities turn out in different ratios in different elections, it's not gonna happen. You try to proportion machines based on turnout in the past, with some upper limit on the # of registered voters per machine. And you always keep a few machines in reserve (in Anthony's case, a very few) for those rare instances in which a precinct has all its machines die.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 06:57 PM
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38. They c ould have bought optical-scan machines, or used
plain paper ballots.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:49 AM
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27. I haven't read the article you are quoting yet beyond your excerpt
becasue it's for registered people only. I'll comment more after I've read it.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:06 PM
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40. Democrat In Name Only
The answer is his question is, "Because you're just another oreo!"
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:52 AM
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4. kick!
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gmoses Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:06 AM
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7. what the NAACP sez
"Suffice it to say that it is the belief of the NAACP that problems with our nation ’s electoral system remain, and that we are committed to seeing them eliminated. It is further disturbing to us that Americans of color continue to suffer *disproportionately* from the myriad of problems that continue to plague or electoral system."

Read more at:

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/voteforum.html
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:11 AM
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9. This is always what I've maintained. The fraud may not be easy to prove
(although I'm sure it happened ) but the civil rights and 14th ammendment violations are blatantly clear. Conyers did say 'I know the law as well as you do' I think this is his compelling evidence. Equal protection under the law and written into the Constitution. Really very simple grounds for contesting, and I think they must have proof of this.
I'm still going to remain hopeful.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:18 AM
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11. There are *no* degrees of equal protection...
It is 'equal protection of the law'.

Therefore, a remedy to correct this inequality is mandatory.

Failure to uphold *any* clause of the Constitution of the United States is Treason.

Allowing treason to occur is an over-throw of our government.


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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:08 PM
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41. That's Like Being A Little Bit Pregnant
Right on! Laws must apply to everyone or they mean nothing!
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Lydia Guerra Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:24 AM
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14. An Illinois Letter to the Senators - Civil Rights are Key!
I've posted this elsewhere on the DU - but I'm tellin' ya, Civil Rights are at stake here. So, our IL delegation to Washington, DC is hand delivering the following letter - this week - to our own Representatives and Sen. Obama and Sen. Durbin. We will also hand deliver to other state's reps and sens. Remember, Civil Rights:

Coalition of Concerned Illinois Citizens
Seeking to Contest the November 2, 2004 Election

January 5, 2004

Dear Senator and Representative of the 109th Congress,

As fair-minded citizens seeking justice, we urge you neither to accept nor to certify the votes cast by the Electoral College when these are submitted to the United States Congress on January 6, 2004. We will support your efforts in making this challenge.

We are convinced that the civil rights of African Americans and other people of color, college students, Democratic and Third Party members were violated on election day, November 2, 2004. Voter suppression and intimidation occurred. These acts constitute conspicuous election fraud. Based on eyewitness accounts, we believe fraud has occurred in many states including Ohio, Florida and New Mexico, with peak levels reported and exemplified in Ohio. We make this request citing ten verifiable factors outlined by The Redefeat Bush Campaign (http://www.redefeatbush.com/downloads/tenquestions.pdf) that must lead any fair-minded person to question the "official" tally and to challenge certification of the Electoral College results.

1. Systematic, widespread voting machine irregularities.
2. Highly irregular intervention by federal authorities.
3. Impossible vote totals: Franklin County, Ohio results gave Bush 4,258 votes to Kerry’s 260 votes in
Precinct 1B while records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct.
(http://www.columbusdispatch.com/election/election-president.php?story=dispatch/2004/11/05/20041105-A6- .html)
4. Openly partisan election officials.
5. Openly partisan and untrustworthy vendors of election machinery.
6. According to Dr. Freeman, PhD, Univ. of Penn, the odds of all three of the statistical anomalies between the
exit polls and actual votes in Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania occurring together are 662,000-to-one.
http://www.appliedresearch.us/sf/Documents/ExitPoll.pdf
7. Unreliable, inadequate numbers of voting equipment in poor and working class (non-Republican) areas.
8. Anomalous and atypical voting pattern changes from 2000 to 2004.
9. Uncounted ballots, double un-matching sets of tally tapes and uncooperative officials in many areas.
10. Widespread illegal voter suppression activities.

Because of widespread complaints, public hearings were held in Columbus, Ohio, November 13, at the
New Faith Baptist Church, and November 15, at the Franklin County Courthouse. The hearings were convened by Bob Fitrakis, PhD, J.D., legal advisor for the Ohio Election Protection Coalition; panelists included Ohio State Rep. Larry Price and Columbus City Council Member, Charleta Tavares. Courageous Ohio citizens stepped forward to report their experiences as voters, election volunteers and judges. On December 8, in Washington, D.C. and December 10, in Columbus, Ohio, further testimony was heard by Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee, led by Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), and other invited panelists such as Rev. Jesse Jackson.

Many of us endorsing this letter witnessed these events in person, saw videotape or broadcasts from C-Span or read testimony on the internet. We saw and heard evidence of voter disenfranchisement that is in violation of constitutional guarantees afforded American citizens by Constitutional Amendments 14, 15, 19, 24 and 26.

We are aware of correspondence between Rep. Conyers and Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell and, between Rep. Conyers and the President and Field Representative of Triad GSI. We are aware of Rep. Conyers’ repeated requests for the raw data on exit polls conducted by Mitofsky International and Edison Media for ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, and the Associated Press. These media outlets refuse to release this data to Rep. Conyers citing a need to wait for final reports. What possible threat could there be by releasing raw data? Unless and until the outstanding questions posed by the democratic members of the House Committee on the Judiciary are addressed and answered, the Electoral Votes presented on January 6, 2004 must not and ought not be accepted or certified.

In addition to conspicuous acts of election fraud manifested by civil rights abuses, other acts of fraud were allowed to occur as a result of Congressional inaction and Presidential neglect.

On October 12, 2002 the Republican-controlled Congress ratified the Help America Vote Act of 2002 (HAVA). This act was designed to correct the civil rights abuses that occurred during the 2000 presidential election. However, not only did this act not help America vote, in the end, it hindered Americans from casting votes and permitting votes that were cast not to be counted:

• The Bush Administration has nullified the Help America Vote Act by stalling the implementation of the Election Assistance Commission (EAC) and cutting the funding to the EAC and the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) from the 2004 Budget.
• Therefore, there is no operational organization to set any standards, evaluate or certify the plans which were proposed and implemented on the state level to replace punch cards and lever machines with electronic machines.
• Further, H.R. 2239, the Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act, which would have required a voter-verified paper record for use in manual audits and recounts, has been tied up in a Republican-controlled committee for nineteen months.
• The rights of the voters in Florida and Ohio will not be defended by their own state governments. Widespread suppression of African American votes through racial profiling and other disenfranchisement techniques in 2000 and 2004 has been clearly documented. (Voting in 2004: Report to the Nation on America’s Election Process, Judith A. Browne, 12/7/04; http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/brownevotestmt12804.pdf).

It is important to raise the issue of civil rights and voter suppression in the context of the November 2, 2004 elections. In defense of civil rights in the country, we urge you, our Senators and Representatives, to challenge the Electoral College Votes presented to Congress on January 6, 2004. We assure you our unconditional and ongoing support in this endeavor, and will remember your courage to act with integrity at this crossroad in the history of our nation. The American People and the world will respond with gratitude, elation and political support of your efforts.

Thank you for your kind attention and dedicated service.
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:48 AM
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26. KICK!! :) n/t
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:03 AM
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32. Sounds good to me!
I wonder what would have happened though if most people of color were registered Republicans?

BTW, NPR just had a story from Columbus on the hourly news. Well done!
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smartone Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:59 PM
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37. Bush V Gore
Bush Supreme Court Victory was pretty much based on the fact that by counting the florida votes with different and evolving standards you Changed the rules of an election after it takes place.

You can't just brush off a coordinated effort to curtail the number of voting booths in minority districts - this is a blatant violation of the voting rights act. the voting rights act is part of the rules in which we conduct our elections in the US .

In other words by blowing off an obvious violation of Voting Rights Act We have Changed the rules of an election after it takes place.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 10:16 PM
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42. I wonder...was Jeb REALLY RE-ELECTED? There is a bit of a
credibility issue here!

WHAT ARE THEY HIDING???:think: :think: :think:
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:20 AM
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43. Thanks for the summary. n/t
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