Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Right-wing politicians support Breivik

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » Places » United Kingdom Donate to DU
 
non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:15 AM
Original message
Right-wing politicians support Breivik
Refresh | 0 Recommendations Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:42 AM
Response to Original message
1. Sickening.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
oldironside Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 11:44 AM
Response to Original message
2. The Glenn Beck effect...
... is working in Europe too.

Can you imagine the reaction 20 years ago if a right wing nutter had killed 60 kids? Now these bastards are quite happy to defend this. It's enough to make any sane person vomit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 06:11 PM
Response to Original message
3. Please let us not emulate the freepers and the UK tabloids
Edited on Wed Jul-27-11 06:21 PM by fedsron2us
There are bits and pieces of ideas in Breiviks huge rambling manifesto that are shared by people all across the spectrum of the political right including the Northern League. Distasteful and badly timed as the Italian politicians comments may be, the fact that they agreed with some of this killers expressed views is not the same as endorsing his mass murder. The truth is that there are quite a sizeable minority of people all over Europe who have some elements of opinions and beliefs similar to Breivik. If we go down the road of denying them any freedom of expression to then we are setting up a society every bit as closed as Breivik and others desire. The truth is that Liberty is indivisible. It means living with ideas and cultural attitudes you dont necessarily share or like. Banning the nasty people from talking on the subjects we dont like wont make their attitudes disappear even though the last Labour government was under the delusion that this was the solution to the problem. Indeed a quick glance at the comments columns on a lot of UK papers following the Norwegian massacre would suggest that the policy has had no impact in removing underlying religious and racial hatreds within the wider population.

I am keen as anyone to determine whether there was a right wing plot behind Breiviks actions. Unfortunately, all we are seeing at the moment are suppositions and post event rationalisations.

http://www.leftfootforward.org/2011/07/what-do-we-know-... /

The people of Norway appear to have onfronted this national tragedy with enormous restraint, courage and dignity. Sadly they have put English speaking world to shame. Here far too many of us on the left have been too eager to exploit the victims of this tragedy as an excuse to put the boot in on right wing individuals and organisations that we despise. I can understand why the Norwegian poster Lars777 was so often moved to anger and frustration by some of the comments on LBN (including regrettably one of my own pieces of speculation).
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. With respect, Feds, these are not speculations but actual comments .....
... from politicians regarded as mainstream in their own country.

While totally respectful of the great and personal loss suffered by our brothers and sisters in Norway, I have, like others on this board and elsewhere, been concerned that a great fear many of us have shared - that the re-emergence and new "respectability" of far-right ideas might begin to trigger extreme violence in some of its adherents - has, tragically, now come to pass.

To express concern at this and disgust at the apologists for Breivik has nothing to do with "emulating freepers and UK tabloids" (I read neither so I have no idea of their views) and everything to do with compassion for fallen comrades and concern at worrying and threatening trends.

Could I respectfully suggest that you might have a little more faith in your fellow DUers' opinions and motives?

Thanks.

The Skin
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. Good piece from Seumas Milne ....
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Neither Freepers nor tabloids but MSNBC, heaven help us!
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr 20th 2014, 09:57 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Places » United Kingdom Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC