Man accused of impregnating 10-year-old, charged with child rape

[Zgrrl]

Man accused of impregnating 10-year-old, charged with child rape

PORT ORCHARD - A man who is believed to have gotten a 10-year-old girl pregnant has been charged with first-degree child rape.

Jeremy Daniel Cockerham, 28, of east Bremerton, pleaded innocent Tuesday in Kitsap County Superior Court and remained in jail with bail set at $250,000. His trial was set for mid-August.

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Last month the girl gave birth, and DNA tests from a laboratory in North Carolina indicated with a 99.99 percent probability Cockerham is the father and ruled out the boy, who also was tested, police said. Further DNA tests at a state crime laboratory are pending.

The girl, now 11, is living with the baby boy and her mother.

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Link: http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050629/NEWS/50629002



Who decided that it was in the girl's best interest for her to give birth to her rapist's baby? Who decided that it's a good idea for a 10-year-old to have a baby? My head is spinning...

(note: edited to add link - sorry I forgot!)

[Stand and Fight]

1. Hey, my head is spinning too!

Where's the link though?

[Zgrrl]

3. Ooops, I just added the link

I added the link to the original post - mea culpa!

:hi:

[Stand and Fight]

22. Merci beaucoup!

:hug:

[elehhhhna]

2. 10 y/o Mother equals Extremely High Risk Pregnancy.

Just plain Ef'd up.

[Missy M]

4. What is this world coming to?

Raping a little 10 year old girl and then the mother of the girl allowing the pregnancy to continue. I hope the rapist spends the better part of his life in prison. This just makes me so sick.

[htuttle]

5. Shark attack!

I'm starting to think that global coverage of local tragedies like this are just an excuse for a lurid distraction from the real problems in the world.

[customerserviceguy]

What global coverage?

The only links I can find in Google News for this story are Washington media sources, and it is pertinent there. Other than being posted here at Democratic Underground, this doesn't seem to be a national story, much less a global one.

[htuttle]

12. Posting something in LBN presumes at least a national scope

Otherwise, this should have been in the Washington state forums.

[pansypoo53219]

10. unortunately this IS

happening around the world. LEGALLY and the 10 year olds elsewhere do NOT get the medical care this 10 year old had.

[htuttle]

15. Yeah, well how many 10 year olds were raped in Darfur last week alone?

I guarantee this thread will grow longer than any possible thread on the situation in Darfur.

This is a local story. When reported nationally, it's also red meat for rage addicts looking for something to get righteously angry about. Which is a shame, since there are plenty of existing issues to get righteously angry about that deserve our attention.

Watch this thread today and tell me I'm wrong.

[Ripley]

20. You want to know why?

See post 18.

You are correct that Darfur and even some atrocities in Iraq (recent one about the refugees from a city that the military is not allowing humanitarian aid and ambulances to enter) sink. I guess those are so overwhelming, people don't know what to say. :shrug:

But in almost every child rape thread there are a few people who claim the child wanted it. That is a very non-progressive viewpoint and it should not be tolerated at DU.

[donsu]

6. my head is spinning because a 10 old girl shouldn't have a

mature body that could produce a child.

it's the harmones, etc. that is in everything, that is making girl's bodies mature way before they should. before the age of man made harmones girls didn't start to bleed until age 13 to 16 with more toward the 14-15 yr. age.

how very unfair and tragic life in america is for girls. but not nearly as tragic as the life of girls in Afghanistan.

the rapist should never see the light of day again.

[napi21]

8. I was thinking the same thng. Just how did a 10 yr old able to get

pregnant? I admit, I'm old to most of you, but I sure didn't think it was even possible for a 10 yr old.

[Mz Pip]

14. Girls are becoming

capable of conceiving younger and younger.

I know a 4th grade teacher who always brings sanitary napkins along on overnight fieldtrips because she's had girls get their first periods on these trips.

There a a couple of theories as to why the age is dropping, diet being one of them. It's becoming more and more common.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[wakeme2008]

27. I remember a 8 yo getting pregnant

10-15 years ago...

[HockeyMom]

16. Women from Latin ethnic groups mature younger

I read statistics that prove it. My Mom was 11 when she got her period. Cannot fault hormones in food going back to 1931. I was 10 and my daughter was 11. Obviously, genetics has more to do with it.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think 10 or 11 year olds should have or be forced to have babies. I am just saying it is not uncommon for girls that young to be capable of it.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

23. For one thing, that'll compromise her bone development a lot.

And a few other organic dysfunctions. :banghead:

[Kraklen]

32. Nonsense.

Menarche in the modern united states occurs on average at 12, with a high standard deviation. So menarche at ten is hardly something to be surprised about. In many places around the world it occurs earlier, there's a number of west Africa tribes where the average age is nine or ten.

The youngest pregnancy on record was a pregnant six year old, in Latin America. That was some 60 years ago, well before the "age of manmade harmones (sic)." If you're curious, the child was delivered healthy by C-section, and raised as the girl's younger brother, they both did fine.

[MissB]

35. Well, then it is all good, isn't it?

[Ripley]

38. Yep, a 6 year old who raised her own baby did fine.

I'm sure she had a normal life with a loving husband. I'm sure she never had one physical, emotional or psychological problem.

What exactly don't people understand about the word PEDOPHILE?

[Kraklen]

42. You'd rather she have spent the rest of her life in an asylum?

Here's her story, if you're interested.

http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp

[MissB]

49. Everytime stories like this come up

I wonder about the statistics of pedophiles in any community, even ours.

[rocktivity]

7. "police were alerted in March

by...Child Protective Services workers who learned that the girl was pregnant...Last month the girl gave birth...The girl, now 11, is living with the baby boy and her mother."

If the pregnancy is discovered in March and the birth was only two months later, it was definitely too late for an abortion. I'm more concerned about the effect of growing up with her child will have. If I were the mother, I'd put the baby in foster care until the girl turned eighteeen. I don't think having a living, breathing reminder of what happened is in her best interests--she has a childhood to get back to.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Zgrrl]

13. Definitely too late for an abortion by the time CPS was notified

Clearly she was in the final trimester when CPS found out about the pregnancy, but I'm really wondering in whose care she was during the first two trimesters, and at what point somebody noticed she was pregnant. Maybe they just thought she was eating too many cookies.
(note - this really happened to someone I went to high school with...she got pregnant and didn't tell her family and nobody noticed, they just thought she'd been eating too much junk food).

I am also totally on board with the people who find it odd that a 10-year-old CAN get pregnant. That's a bit early to be getting one's period.

It's very tragic.

[racaulk]

9. A prime example of our "culture of life"

Our so called "culture of life" only covers people from the time they're conceived until the time they're born. Once you're born, your life is unimportant. Where's the outrage from these "culture of life" right-wing types? Why is it better for an 11-year old girl to be forced to raise a child that was conceived without her consent? I guess since she isn't in the womb her life is also unimportant.

This girl will likely be a grandmother before she's 30. What a sad and horrible situation for her, her baby, and her family.

Jeremy Daniel Cockerham doesn't deserve life in prison. Even the death penalty, if he receives it, would be too good for him. He should be castrated and forced to live out the remainder of his life as a eunuch, unable to repeat his horrible crime. What a fucking monster.

[Career Prole]

11. Seems Cockerham's been an a$$hole for a while...

Two men have been charged in Kitsap County Superior Court with beating the mothers of their children.

Jeremy Cockerham, 22, of Mariah Lane in Bremerton is accused of second-degree assault and felony harassment.

The mother of Cockerham's two children had a broken wrist and rib when she contacted police, according to the charge. He caused the injuries and also choked her and threatened to kill the two children and her two others, all on Dec. 6, it alleges.

http://tinyurl.com/aefhs
(Google cached page, story from December 1999)

[Vladimir]

17. Sick and wrong

as for the pregnancy being carried to full term - its an ethical minefield. Not so much because of abortion per-se, which I of course have no problems with whatsoever, but because one could validly ask if a ten year old girl is in a position to make this decision for herself, not least because at that age she is bound to be under a lot of pressure at home to do what her parents want her to anyhow. On the other hand, the idea of the doctor or indeed her parents deciding for her seems... well more than slightly unpalatable. So I just don't know...

[Name removed]

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[Ripley]

19. Yeah, it would be pretty normal for a 10 year old to want to fuck

a guy who is almost 30. She was probably just horny that day. Or maybe always dreaming of having a baby.

At 10 years old.

:sarcasm:

Never fails in these threads.

[MissB]

28. Thank you for saying it far more politely

than I would.

[geniph]

86. The concept of statutory rape seems to escape some folks

Let me spell it out for anyone who's Unclear on the Concept (not you, Ripley, I'm replying to the dolt who said she consented):

A CHILD CANNOT GIVE INFORMED CONSENT TO SEX, THEREFORE ANY SEX WITH A CHILD IS NONCONSENSUAL AND IS RAPE.

Is that clear enough? A child cannot comprehend the consequences of sex well enough to give consent. That's why we have statutory rape laws. Even should a child be "willing" (which I find not only doubtful, but rather repulsive in this case), it is STILL NOT LEGAL TO HAVE SEX WITH THAT CHILD.

[mac56]

25. "There's no evidence that she didn't say yes."

Are you serious?!

[bluestateguy]

21. This guy should be castrated publicly

In the town square for all to see.

[wakeme2008]

24. Before you say anything about the girl,, it could have been

her choice to have the baby. If it was I have no problem with her going full term....

[mac56]

26. Her choice?!

Ten. Years. Old. For chrissake.

[DemBones DemBones]

34. Yes, ten years old, and still entitled to HER choice.

I'm pro-life but if I read a story about someone having an abortion, I don't post that she shouldn't have aborted.

Why do pro-choicers get so annoyed when someone doesn't choose abortion?

[mac56]

40. "Why do pro-choicers get so annoyed when someone doesn't choose abortion?"

Why do anti-choicers always assume that carrying the baby to term is the only possible virtuous decision?

Ten. Years. Old.

Edited to change "pro-lifers" to "anti-choicers".

[DemBones DemBones]

63. As a pro-lifer, I believe that killing is wrong,

including the killing done in war, the killing done by governments called "capital punishment," and the killing done by medical personnel called "abortion." I don't think abortion should be used as birth control.

However, if this story had said the girl had become pregnant and had an abortion, I would NOT be criticizing her parents or her for that CHOICE.

You, however, are sure that you know best what should have been done -- that you know better than the girls' parents and the social workers who actually know the girl and her medical situation, not to mention the girl herself,

So just who is anti-choice?

[mac56]

65. Thanks ever so for telling me what I think.

Glad that Vulcan Mind Meld is working so well for you.

Sheesh.

[MissB]

66. Part of being pro-choice

is allowing adults to make their own choices. Even if they use abortion as birth control.

I'm sure Mac56 and I would both have preferred that this child have an advocate earlier in the pregnancy- before she was 7 months along.

Being appalled that a ten year old went through a high risk pregnancy does not make us evil baby killers.

[mac56]

68. Very good response.

Thank you.

[ProfessorGAC]

30. Maybe You Should Wake Up Before You Post

This sleep posting is not working out well.
The Professor

[MissB]

31. Nicely done.

Personally, I'm sitting on my fingers.

[wakeme2008]

72. I was awake and it was still her CHOICE nt

[geniph]

87. A child that age has no idea of the consequences

of trying to raise a baby. I find the whole thing disgusting and sad. And I cannot imagine allowing a child of ten to become responsible for an infant; it is not fair to either the child or the infant. A baby deserves an adult parent. A child deserves a childhood.

[Singular73]

41. You do realize that pro-choice doesn't always mean

that people will choose an abortion.

[DemBones DemBones]

29. Exactly how would killing her child have helped this girl?

I don't think 10 year-old girls should have babies but, please, focus your anger on the man who made her pregnant. He should never have had sex with this child.

This article gives no evidence that anyone "decided that it's a good idea for a 10 year-old to have a baby." It does say that the girl initially claimed that a 10 year-old boy was the baby's father. Doesn't that sound as if she knew the real father committed a crime by having sex with her? We don't know if he coerced or threatened her into lying or if she chose to protect him. If she knew enough to try to protect the real father, whether by choice or at his urging, it seems likely she knew enough to realize abortion was an option. Giving birth may have been her choice.

There have always been girls who entered motherhood soon after puberty -- and girls who entered puberty before they were 10. It's unfortunate but it does seem that social workers will be keeping an eye on this family to see how everything goes. She's not too young to help raise her child; many girls her age and younger care for their younger siblings.

[MissB]

33. Do you know a lot of 10 year olds that are having sex?

Do you know a lot of 10 year olds that understand the process of giving birth (and its implications on her too-young body) and know enough to choose an abortion?

She. Was. 10. Years. Old. It wasn't in the best interest of her growing body to produce a child at this age.

[DemBones DemBones]

39. I know that many elementary school kids have sex.

They shouldn't, but they DO.

I agree that it wasn't a good thing for her to have a baby but she did. It's a done deal.

Why do pro-choicers howl so much when someone does not choose abortion?

[MissB]

43. Frankly, it was the way you phrased your post.

You asked how killing her child would have helped - as if any child who found herself pregnant at 10 years old should just go ahead and have the baby, regardless of the consequences to her health.

In this case, by the time the authorities were involved it was likely too late for an abortion, so it is a moot point.

I do not believe that a TEN year old girl has the ability to decide that giving birth is okay. It should be up to her parents, or in the case of questionable parenting, up to the authorities. She isn't even a pre-teen. She's 10 freakin years old. She is a child.

[mac56]

44. Thank you, missb, for responding to this more politely than I would.

nm

[Singular73]

45. Yeah they government should be able to force people to have abortions.

Wonderful party line. Where can I get the bumper sticker????

/head explodes

[MissB]

48. I don't know why you'd have a problem with Children's Services

making the decision for the child to have an abortion. If the parents were messed up enough that they allowed or encouraged the 30 year old to have sex with their ten year old, then I don't think any judge would allow the parents the right to make the decision over Children's Services. There isn't anything remotely non-progressive about that stance.

That's just an example, since you seemed to have a hard time wrapping your head around why the parents might not be the best people to decide whether a *child* should remain pregnant. There are some seriously messed up parents out there that use their children in horrible ways.

I'm not saying that is the case in this girl's case. Hopefully Washington's version of Children's Services has intervened with this family. It isn't acceptable for a 10 year old child to become pregnant. I'd never be convinced that it was the 10 year old's choice to have sex at that age.

She wasn't even a preteen. She was (and still is) a child.

[Singular73]

50. Thats a lot of assumptions made of whole cloth....

I haven't read that they encouraged this guy to have sex with their daughter.

I haven't read that actively allowed this.

Where does it say that?

If the child is a WARD OF THE STATE, then sure, who else would make the decision?

But that's not the case here.

[MissB]

52. If you'd clearly read the first sentence of the third paragraph

of my post, you probably wouldn't have typed five of the six lines in your post.

[Singular73]

55. Nah, I read it...

Its just that since its purely hypothetical, and not based in any kind of reality here, it has absolutely no relevance.

You can't use that in order to justify your arguement. Thats what I'm saying.

I understand your compassion for this girl, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[MissB]

60. Glad to hear you read it.

I'm sure we're on opposite sides of the argument on this girl. You don't get why I find it appalling to think of a child of 10 carrying a child to term. I don't get why you don't find it offensive. I don't see how any parent would put their child at risk- that being said, if it was her parents' choice, then great. I'm sure Children's Services is involved, even if it is a wee bit late for the child.

I've given birth twice. One of my two pregnancies was a high risk pregnancy. It wasn't fun. I don't wish a high risk pregnancy on anyone - certainly not a child.

The road to hell comment goes both ways. The ramifications of going through a high risk pregnancy at age 10 shouldn't be dismissed.

[mac56]

56. "Actively allowed"?

A thirty year old scumbag raped their ten year old daughter. The daughter they are responsible to protect.

Somehow, on some level, through negligence or whatever, they allowed these circumstances to occur. Even if they didn't specifically encourage it.

How "active" does the "allowing" need to be for you?

[Singular73]

58. Yes, this is clearly the parents' fault.

:silly:

[mac56]

71. Well, yes, in large part it is.

They permitted circumstances to occur so that a 30 year old got dangerously close to their 10 year old daughter, and he raped her. They then ignored the evidence of her pregnancy for seven months instead of taking early steps to intervene and seek an advocate. So yes, a great amount of the fault is theirs.

And don't minimize this with that insulting :silly: smilie bullshit.

[countryjake]

81. The guy was her step-father! He lived in the same house with her!

He regularly beat up on the family! So now she is bound to this monster for the rest of her life, by reproducing his progeny! The max he will probably get is six years in this state, maybe only three, but who's gonna keep him away from his "kid" once he is free to abuse this poor girl some more?!

[mac56]

82. Step-father? Where did I miss that?

I didn't see that in the article.

[countryjake]

84. It was all just reported on our local news. Sorry!

[DemBones DemBones]

54. I wonder why you seem to assume that a young girl

would not be damaged more psychologically by a third-trimester abortion than by giving birth. She'd probably have had to have one of those grisly procedures where the baby's head is delivered just enough to suction its brains out and collapse its skull. :scared: Children often find the concept of abortion quite disturbing, just as they are disturbed by cats or dogs being killed. Why liberal DUers are disturbed by the killing of cats, dogs, American troops, and Iraqis but not by the killing of unborn babies is a mystery to me.

I agree that she is a child chronologically but her body is likely rather adult since she was able to conceive and bear a child. Emotionally, who knows? I hope she is mature for her age.

I'm sure her mother was involved in her decision and could have forced her to abort. I'm also reasonably sure that the state could have appointed a guardian for her or otherwise legally sought a way to force her to abort if they had determined that giving birth would harm her.

Anyway, it's a done deal. She had her baby and she and her mother are caring for him. And now the adult man who impregnated her will be punished. Time for us to move on.

[MissB]

69. You're making different assumptions about her family than I am

See, I don't know of any parent that would allow their child near a 30 year old, and miss any sign of pregnancy up until 7 months, when the authorities found out that the child was pregnant.


I'm pro-choice.

"Why liberal DUers are disturbed by the killing of cats, dogs, American troops, and Iraqis but not by the killing of unborn babies is a mystery to me."

You're anti-choice. Way to ratchet up the rhetoric.

[geniph]

88. I've got no problem with her not choosing abortion

although allowing her to carry the child to term endangered HER life too - why doesn't that matter to you? However, I think allowing her to be responsible to raise an infant is child abuse for BOTH children.

There IS the option of adoption, too, you know.

[Singular73]

37. I agree DemBones, this line of thought is irritating.

[countryjake]

85. Simple: She wouldn't have to go thru life knowing that her son...

was her half-brother's or half-sister's sibling! That guy was her step-father for crying out loud! He terrorized her entire family...who knows what she may have been threatened with if she revealed what had been done to her?!! The trauma of the raping of this child is compounded by the resulting birth, which forever ties her to the monster who brutalized her in the first place! He didn't have SEX with her...HE RAPED HER!!

[Singular73]

36. Well its certainly not up to YOU to decide.

For fucks sake, what do you suggest, that we hold online polling for which underage raped girl should get an abortion or not?

Its up to her and her mother, MOSTLY her mother and father. She was 10 for gods sakes.

[ProfessorGAC]

46. Well, After Reading Your Two Posts. . .

. . .i don't need to comment. It's obvious you're used to being wrong.
The Professor

[Singular73]

47. After reading your reply

Its obvious that you cannot debate anything without resorting to personal attacks.

[MissB]

51. If I had to guess

The Professor is still scratching his head, wondering in what world exactly it is acceptable for a 10 year old to become pregnant.

As you said, she was 10 for gods sake. It isn't typical for 10 year olds to get pregnant, and one would hopefully wonder what the parents were thinking, exactly.

It isn't typical for a 10 year old to give birth. It'd be a high risk pregnancy, which isn't a normal cake-walk of a pregnancy.

[Singular73]

53. Its not "acceptable" at all.

But would you really advocate forced abortions on all 10 year olds?

If their parents disagree?

You want the government to come in and make that decision?

Sounds like the thought behind Schiavo, as well as the opposition to the 13 year old that DECIDED to have an abortion in Florida, that we all supported. And SHE was a ward of the state.

[mac56]

57. "the thought behind Schiavo"

Please elaborate.

[Singular73]

59. Schiavo

Uhm, the big problem with the Schiavo case, for me, was that the Reuthuglicans attempted to have the government (all the way up to the president) step in, in order to counteract the decision and wishes of Michael Schiavo, as well as the rulings of the judiciary.

You don't see the parallel between this, and advocating that the government steps in to make sure this girl gets an abortion, instead of leaving that decision to her parents?

[mac56]

61. Straw man argument.

"advocating that the government steps in to make sure this girl gets an abortion..."

Nowhere on this thread has anyone called for that.

Your Schaivo parallel falls flat.

[MissB]

64. And advocate is the operative word here

I think you and I would agree that if this child had an advocate (assuming that Children's Services was involved much earlier in the pregnancy), then whatever that advocate decided would be acceptable. If the child was deemed mature enough to handle childbirth and wanted the baby and could express it, then it would be clearly wrong to "force" an abortion.

I'm beginning to think that the other poster thinks you and I would advocate for an abortion regardless of the situation. :shrug:

[mac56]

67. Agreed.

nm

[Singular73]

74. Wrong.

"It should be up to her parents, or in the case of questionable parenting, up to the authorities. "

[mac56]

76. Don't hurt your back.

Making a reach like that one requires some major contortion.

[Singular73]

79. Apology accepted.

Kthanksbye.

[mac56]

80. Apology imagined, it seems.

None was tendered.

Apparently the strategy is to declare victory and pull out.

[MissB]

62. If the parents allowed a 30 year old

to impregnate their *child*, then yeah, I'd want another responsible adult to come in and be an advocate for the *child*. Typically that is Children's Services or a similar entity. Those are typically government entities. :shrug: Big bad government and all that - as a society, we set up these entities to take over when parents fail their children.

There are three years and a world of difference in maturity between a 10 year old and a 13 year old. The 13 year old expressed a level of maturity and could explain to a judge why she wanted an abortion. If the 10 year old could stand up and explain to a judge why she should or shouldn't have an abortion, then she'd be judged mature enough to make the decision for herself. Otherwise that burden goes to a responsible adult - whether it is her parents or the local government. Such is the way our society is set up.

I do doubt the likelihood of a ten year old being able to do that.

[DemBones DemBones]

70. Why do you say the parents "allowed" the man

to impregnate their daughter? Don't you think social services would have removed the girl from the parents' custody if that were the case?

Do you think they should have chained her in the house to prevent the possibility of her engaging in sexual activity? If not, how do you think any parent can safeguard their daughter's virtue? For decades, some kids have been having sex in their elementary school years.

Some 10 year-olds ARE as mature as a typical 13 year-old and it's possible this girl is one of those mature children. It's possible she could have stood before a judge and explained her decision -- it's even possible she DID do that. The news story gives us very little information. The most salient fact is that it's a done deal; she had her baby and she and her mother are raising him. Time to move on to other issues that are more important to the future of civilization.

[Singular73]

75. Stop it with all the logic and consistency

It obviously has no place here.

[ProfessorGAC]

73. What Attack?

How is that an attack? It was a commentary on the content of your post. How is that a personal attack? A little too sensitive, perhaps? Maybe a sense that your position is indefensible? Hmmmmm?
The Professor

[countryjake]

77. Odd that some here okay it when a 10 yr old has her step dad's baby

For that matter, what is moral or pure about a 10 yr old becoming pregnant with ANYONE'S baby? Sheer oppression of women is one thing, but advocating such outright child abuse, by saying ending that pregnancy with abortion, at any stage, would be worse on a young girl than allowing her to go full term, deliver, & suffer a lifetime of consequences from being raped at such a tender age...what the hell kind of thinking is that...let's make TWO children suffer the repercussions of this dysfunctional family, by all means! Wouldn't want to sacrifice any VALUES now, would we?!!

[Singular73]

78. Who said that?

I merely stated it wasn't up to YOU on the message board to decide FOR the person.

I stated it was up to whoever is her legal guardian.

Pro-choice doesnt mean jack when some of you people only take "abortion" as the answer.

[countryjake]

83. Abortion is a logical answer when a little girl is raped by her guardian!

Don't give me this pro-choice bullshit...I fought for a woman's right to ABORTION, when & if it is desired, needed, or called for! Obviously, this poor little girl had no responsible advocate to defend her in the situation she was living in & in her case, even our state let her down by allowing her to remain under such god-awful circumstances. Children have been jerked away from their mothers for far less offensive behaviors by our government, right here, in Washington! Abortion was desperately called for in this child's case, any which way you say it!

[geniph]

89. Allowing the child to carry a pregnancy to term endangers HER life

why doesn't that seem to matter to you?

And any parent that endangers their child's life is subject to having their parental rights removed by CPS to protect the child. CPS should have intervened in this one some time ago.

I don't care how mature the girl is physically, or whether she claims to have wanted the sex or wanted the child. She is not emotionally mature enough to make those decisions. That's what the very concept of being a child IS, for heaven's sake. It's someone for whom those decisions must be made, because the person is not yet capable of making them. Children are supposed to be protected. If the parents aren't doing it, or if they are in fact the ones endangering the child, that's when we step in and make those decisions in loco parentis.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

90. Ten year old child that was raped and abused by the parents

The 30 year old is a sex offender rapest child moulester predator, sexual psychopath. The tisted dude should be removed from society forever. social services a different problem. The laws have not changed about child moulestation. There is no such thing by law or any human values as a ten year old consenting to any foarm of sexual moulestation in any country of the mordern world. To think this is not true is in deed twisted in ones thoughts.