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sr_pacifica Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:18 PM
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Black Pastors Backing Bush Are Rarities
Edited on Mon Oct-04-04 11:19 PM by sr_pacifica
Actually the rest of the headline is "But Not Alone" but I think we can just leave it at "Are Rarities."


Like many African-Americans, the Rev. Walter Humphrey, pastor of two mostly black churches in Akron, Ohio, and Oakland, Calif., has serious doubts about how fairly President Bush won the contested state of Florida in the last election. But Mr. Humphrey says that is not going to stop him from voting for Mr. Bush this year for the first time.

"I don't view that as an election that was stolen," he said. "I see that as the providence of God."

A registered independent who has now become a volunteer for the Bush campaign in Florida, Mr. Humphrey said the president's outspoken Christian faith, his support for church-based social programs and his opposition to same-sex marriage won him over. "As far as I am concerned, I see the hand of God on President Bush," he said.


Now this is one guy who needs to hear the 4 hurricanes in Florida phenomena pointed out to him. Perhaps he would convert.

More at:

www.nytimes.com/2004/10/05/politics/campaign/05church.html?hp
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:22 PM
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1. These guys are sold out oreo bastards, sucking at the "faith based"
slop trough of public money. They have big $$$$ in their eyes and repulsive greed in their hearts. As such, they are hardly Christian. Fuck you, mammon worshipers.
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beanball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:04 AM
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7. The love of money
cause sane men and women to say and do insane things.Hope you enjoy your new bushmobile.
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Dragon Turtle Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:32 PM
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2. The fools,
the Felonous Five are not God.
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sr_pacifica Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:38 PM
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3. another excerpt from this article
"The African-American pastor has a tremendous moral authority," said Ken Hutcherson, the African-American pastor of a church in Redmond, Wash., and a Bush supporter who has joined several white conservative Christian leaders to lead rallies around the country to oppose same-sex marriage.

Mr. Hutcherson said he could make statements, including criticism of gay rights, that white pastors sometimes shied away from. "Most other people are afraid to speak out because they will be called bigots," he said


Isn't that rich---his assertion that people will accept his bigotry because it CAN'T be bigotry if it comes from a group that has a history of discrimination. O ye of little brains....




www.nytimes.com/2004/10/05/politics/campaign/05church.h...



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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:43 PM
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4. from what I have seen/heard in OK...black pentecostal preachers
who do not publicly support W are ostracised.....the pentecostals/charismatics preach that only the republicans are moral and Christian

this is the public message of the pentecostals/charismatics.....being preached to whites, blacks, Hispanics
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:58 PM
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5. Very interesting....
My minister (Black Baptist Church in Oakland, CA) wrote an editorial to combat the Black ministers who are endorsing Bush.

Here is an opinion piece he wrote, which was signed by several noteworthy Pastors in the immediate area. The piece appeared in the Oakland Tribune a couple of weeks ago. In it he attempts to answer 20 African-Americans in the Northern California area who came out and endorsed President Bush last month. He does not agree with one issue voting and said too many things are going wrong to vote for Bush based on the same sex marriage constitutional ban. However, I will say that the fact that these Black ministers came out for Bush is a very bad sign for John Kerry.

Please read his short article.....as it answers those Black ministers who endorse Bush.

http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82%257E1761%257E2418470,00.html?search=filter
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:02 AM
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6. While on the subject of churches and Bush....
Please make sure to read and pass this article far and wide:

WHY W. DOESN'T GO TO CHURCH.

Empty Pew - by Amy Sullivan - Post date 09.30.04
- Issue date 10.11.04

Most Americans are aware that George W. Bush is a religious man. He is, after all, the man who presided over a religious revival of sorts at the Republican National Convention. He is the man who has pioneered what could be called cardio-diplomacy, judging world leaders--and, at times, entire nations--by their "hearts." He is the subject of at least four spiritual hagiographies currently in bookstores, and one religious documentary ("George W. Bush: Faith in the White House"). Most famously, Americans know him as the man who, when asked to cite the philosopher who had the greatest influence on him, named Jesus Christ.

What most--including many of the president's fiercest supporters--don't know, however, is that Bush doesn't go to church. Sure, when he weekends at Camp David, Bush spends Sunday morning with thecompound's chaplain. And, every so often, he drops in on the little Episcopal church across Lafayette Park from the White House. But the president who has staked much of his domestic agenda on the argument that religious communities hold the key to solving social problems doesn't belong to a congregation.

It should be a politically intriguing story. Bush is one of the most explicitly religious politicians in American history. Both of his presidential campaigns have used religion to appeal emotionally to voters. The entire philosophy behind his signature slogan,
"compassionate conservatism," rests on the belief that religious communities have a unique ability to tend to the nation's social ills. And yet, after the flood of coverage around Bush's first--and only--visit to a neighborhood church during inauguration weekend in Washington, D.C., no one has bothered to report on the president's
whereabouts on Sunday mornings.

MORE......
http://catholicsforkerry.blogspot.com/2004/10/why-w.html
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