There is something going on bad for Bush..the media is caught in a shift

[opihimoimoi]

Fox, MSNBC, Imus, etc are now shifting to Kerry...which means they KNOW something, they got the NOSES and they smell a Kerry win. Imus even bet money on it.

Poor Bush ...wanted it, got it,...didn't nourish it, and now... will lose it.

The Media knows a loser when they watch him expose himself on National TV in front of 62 Million Viewers as a mega lolo.

Look for more Republicans to jump ship. The Swift Pubs just came on board for Kerry. Many Log Cabin Boys dumped Bush long ago.

The Landslide is 80% at this point.....

Bushies only hope....GOD will tell him what to do..... small problem, Bush cannot remember his dreams.

[MatrixEscape]

1. Sounds?

They sound more like whores trying to keep some sort of reputation ;) They see a shift and follow it at the last minute? That's a popularity game, not reporting.

That aside, I would not get too optimistic. Go for cement and steel. A landslide would mean a mandate and gosh, don't we all want that.

Otherwise, act as if, and continue the struggle until November 2nd! I don't think anyone will relax and call it soup until after the count here, right?

[Hand]

2. Well, yes but...

Whores are whores, even when they're on your side. I wouldn't trust a one of these bastards.

Prediction: If Chimpy manages not to completely crash, burn, and turn to greasy ashes in the second debate, they'll be trumpeting "HE'S BACK!!" and reinserting their noses in the usual place.

:grr:

[skylarmae]

3. Imus has been for Kerry a long time-waffles some but has

been on board (in the beginning the only at the station, too) since the primaries. Mrs. Imus and Mrs. Kerry also share some common interests.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

4. Well, the whores will need access to Kerry's White House....

so they figure lets be nice enough to him to get it. Also, they are so ego driven that they could not live being on a loosing team and I am sure they would not want to deal with John Kerry's FCC either.

[MsTryska]

7. *lol*...i can just imagine the little closed door conversation

between kerry's people and the media....

"
You bitches better start reporting the news the way it's supposed to be, or i will shut every last one of you fuckers down. I'm gonna use my little Waterman Pen of Death here, and sign the hell out of FCC regulation changes. What do you think of that?"


"Well...i think SOME republicans feel Mr Bush will have a tough time, getting re-elected."

[CatWoman]

13. MARS, Bitches!!!!

[opihimoimoi]

27. LOL, Cya on Mars

[PROGRESSIVE1]

37. "Waterman Pen of Death"!!!!!

That's a good analogy!!!

:kick:

[VOX]

26. I thought the same thing, P1...

Man, I've become cynical. But it's hard not to when the cynicism turns out to be based in truth so often!

[Brotherjohn]

5. I think the shift is due to: Bush vs. reality and Bush vs. Kerry (mano...

... a mano).

1) Bush vs. Reality: The more Bush continues to say bonehead things like Saddam didn't disarm and imply things like Saddam attacked us (as he did in the debate), the more people say "Is this guy even sane?" (not to mention his insistence that things are peachy-keen in Iraq).

2) Bush vs. Kerry, "mano a mano": No more warmed over, hand-picked crowds. No more shakin' in their boots journalists afraid they'll be denied access or raked over the coals a la Dan Rather. When Bush goes up against Kerry (as he did so miserably in Debate #1 and still has to do two more times), he is going up against a truly "hostile" opponent who will call him on every misstatement, and provide a counter-opinion thrown right in his face, instantly. This is happening, I might add, for perhaps the first time of his presidency. It is also happenning in front of perhaps the largest and most interested viewing audience yet in this campaign (or any?). This is also the first chance many voters really have a chance to learn anything about Kerry (besides ads), and Bush suffers greatly from the comparison. It is also, basically, the first time voters really have a chance to learn anything truthful about Bush as president (no ads, no talking heads, just him against the other guy).

Regarding your initial point (the shift), I think the main evidence it has happened is that they are still saying "Kerry won". I don't think Al Gore performed any worse than Kerry, and I think he won every debate. The media was saying so right after the debates as well. But it quickly devolved into talk of Gore's sighs and such.

That hasn't happened this time. The CV among the media has become that Kerry trounced bush, and polls show people agree.

[opihimoimoi]

28. I guess it was TOO OBVIOUS for even them to ignore

[tigereye]

6. I hope you are right

I think that * only has the "stay the course" and fundie vote going for him. On the economic front, he seems as clueless as Bush 1 - there is little sense of him comprehending the economic suffering and problems going on and even less of that is conveyed in the speeches I have seen. And all he does is "say" what people want to hear.


uh guys and/or ladies... could we lose the "whores" term? Isn't there a word that is as powerful and less offensive to those of us who are female? :)

[JPZenger]

8. CNN Shift

Over the weekend, I noticed a shift in the writing of CNN Headline news to be more favorable to Kerry.

After watching the debate, I wonder if the powers that be finally came to the realization that it is dangerous to have that repetitive imbecile in the most powerful position in the world.

[tigereye]

9. if it took this long and the debate to help them see that,

we are in serious trouble.

[opihimoimoi]

29. Really...and most of them have higher ed to boot

[gristy]

42. campaign stories on the top of news.google today were trumpeting

how Bush was still ahead in the polls. The top story is this one now. Note that of 6 polls, only two show Bush with a lead. So the headline gets written this way... how? Bottom line is the media has not swung.

Bush Has 5-Point Edge Over Kerry, Two Polls Find (Update1)

Oct. 4 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush leads Democratic challenger John Kerry by 5 percentage points in national polls taken after their first debate by the Pew Research Center and the Washington Post/ABC News.

Majorities of voters in both surveys said Kerry was the winner of the Sept. 30 encounter, though he didn't close the gap with Bush shown in polls taken the week before the debate, according to Pew and Post/ABC data.

Forty-nine percent of likely voters polled by Pew Oct. 1-3 back Bush and 44 percent support Kerry. Independent candidate Ralph Nader gets 2 percent. The Post/ABC poll found Bush backed by 51 percent, Kerry by 46 percent and Nader, whose campaign says he is on the ballot in 33 states, by 1 percent.

Four other national polls taken after the debate -- by Newsweek magazine, the Gallup Organization, Zogby International and the Los Angeles Times -- show the race to be statistically deadlocked. Both campaigns agree the race is close.

MORE: http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=amK8nF8x0i9A&refer=top_world_news

[MockSwede]

49. CYA

I believe that if there is a 'change of slant' that it is completely self-serving. Kerry and the FCC, etc, as another poster so indicated, and they are worried about their turf and profits. Same as they always are. Just now, they may realize that they may have to deal with Kerry in office.

[John_H]

50. I hope to God someone at the Kerry campaign has made it clear to

CNN that they have a long way to go and they better get on the fair train now, 'cause november 3 is way too fucking late. If CNN wants the same access to the Kerry whitehouse that real reporters get they better start doing some real reporting. If paula and wolfie want the primo guests, they better stop shilling for chimp and now.

[SayitAintSo]

17. Men are whores too ... doesn't bother me ....

Less syllables that prostitute

[whistle]

10. Their noses not only smell a Kerry win and a Bush defeat....

...but they also smell a BushCo indictment, prosecution and jail term and I think FOX, MSNBC and other big networks may be caught up in pandering to the right wing and neo-cons. Perhaps their executives think that by abandoning the dark-side they will save their own asses. If Kerry really means to give America back to the American people he'll not just stop with the evil emperor (Bush and friends) but he should through the whole crooked bunch to the wolves!

As for Imus, he needs his cowboy hat taken away from him. He is a phony in my book and will have to demonstrate a major shift in ideology before I'm convinced he has had any sort of psychic transformation to the side of rightness and goodness. I would say that 80% landslide for Kerry is conservative, Americans are awakening to the real disaster has has fallen upon this country caused by the far right and they are going to boot their asses right back through the gates of hell where they came from!

[opihimoimoi]

30. we are holding our breath for this to come true man...keep those fingrs

crossed

[CatWoman]

11. ROFL

A "mega" lolo???

:hi:

[Out the Parasites]

23. mega lolo

:bounce:

[opihimoimoi]

31. The MOTHER of ALL LOLOs... a super dummy of lunaresque size

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. I hope Kerry is taking down names

of the chimp shills. They should all be banned from his WH press corp.

I wonder if they have learned about the chimp love child? That story is suppose to break THIS WEEK.

[Ladyhawk]

16. I don't know...maybe that story is a Rove smokescreen.

It comes at too convenient a time. Maybe I'm still reeling from those stupid memos.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. Well, whoever reports it

will make DARN sure they have all their ducks in a row I would think.

[ethereal]

25. Having to work sucks

I've not heard about the Shrubby love child. What gives?

[Javaman]

14. The shift has started...

The various news outlets are hedging their bets. Remember, they won't come right out and endorce Kerry but they also won't abandon moron just yet, if Kerry does a repeat performance on Friday, you just watch the slide to the Kerry camp. It will be of earthquake proportions.

[opihimoimoi]

32. All eyes are on this one for sure... Bush must FEEL the HEAT

He must Kill Kerry or go down in DEFEAT

[Roland99]

15. Don't Count Your Chickens Yet...I Smell a Set-Up

[Lex]

19. The media will pummel Kerry EVEN IF HE WINS.

Clinton and his whole Administration were completely pummeled by the press the entire time of being in office.

Don't think if Kerry wins, the press will be "on his side" somehow.

They will sarcastically deride every appointment to every Cabinet post Kerry makes. They will second guess his every decision and ridicule any mis-step, even if there ISN'T a mis-step.

Winning the election will be a great victory, but the press and media will go on slamming the Democrats just like when Clinton was in office.

[gristy]

43. No they won't.

If they do, he'll break 'em up. Executive orders, FCC rulings. They'll behave. Even if they do behave, he'll probably break them up. I hope he does.

[Lex]

56. How?

If it could've been done, Clinton would've done it already.

Executive orders? To make the press 'behave?'

[yellowcanine]

20. I want to believe that but would not base it on Imus. His grasp of reality

has been seriously undermined by years of abusing alcohol and cocaine.

[Mz Pip]

21. At some point

people, including media people, have to wake up to the fact that Bush is bad for our country.


Who are the Swift Pubs???

MzPip
:dem:

[oasis]

22. Judy Woodruff didn't get the memo. Her lips are firmly planted on Bush's

arse. :*

[Mountainman]

24. mega lolo indeed!

I think that maybe people are just refusing to drink the koolaid these days. The repub ads don't paint the picture of Kerry that people saw in the debates. All they've gotten so far is the media whores talking points but they could not control the message from the debates. We don't want four more years of the mega lolo!

[opihimoimoi]

34. Yo, Bob of the MOUNTAINS.... no coolaide for the sheep these days..

they are tired of having to work 2 and 3 jobs just to keep afloat...

[undercover_brother]

33. The media cycles between candidates

They were all over Kerry during the primaries. They then went to Bush. Then to Kerry during the convention. Then back to Bush during late August and September. If they continue the trend Kerry should have good coverage right up till the election.

My prediction is that Bush is able to get the tears fired up well enough during the town hall debate that the media pushes his "in touch with the people" facade.

I have no doubt that Bush will do better in the next debate and get positive coverage for it. He could not possibly do worse than the first debate. Any improvement will be touted heavily.

[opihimoimoi]

35. Can I say there is that possibility of WORSE for BUSH...I hope his head

implodes far worse than the first deflate.

Won't take much, the pressure is too high and this dude, he has thin walls.

[gristy]

46. Kerry knows this, though.

He knows Bush is gasping for air. He's going to redouble his efforts to keep him underwater. Remember, Bush was doing his best in the first debate. So was Kerry. Any extent to which Bush is able to draw from his intellectual/emotional/physical reserves, Kerry will do double. Kerry knows he has to do this. And he will.

[loudsue]

36. Media strategy for making Dem voters complacent -- stay home from polls

This is just another kkarl rove trick. It seduces the biggest pool of Dem voters into "well, I'm not going to take time off work and go to the polls since Kerry's going to win" mode.

Think of who the masses are: People who work at WalMart, MickieD's, sales clerks, 8 to 5'ers who are about to be down-sized, gardeners, domestic help... there is a HUGE base of economically challenged Dems who really have to make a big effort and sacrifice to get to the polls to vote. The upper middle class and wealthy voters don't have that problem...they all have at least 2 vehicles.

Telling people that Kerry is going to win is to lull people into a deep secure sleep, hoping they don't wake up until the gopers have secured another 4 years of a budding plutocracy.

With the computerized voting machines inventing a few million votes for dumbya, Dems need every person we can find to get to the polls.

I just don't trust the media for one minute....they've already shown their true colors, and they're going to continue doing everything they can to secure a repuke win.

[gristy]

47. This theory was floated a couple days ago and was soundly shot

down. NFW did Rove throw the 2nd quarter on purpose.

[KoKo]

38. I take your word for this Opi...but what can it be? I tuned out to the

Cables so have only been seeing DU reports of Polls. You are seeing a change in coverage?

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[BillZBubb]

40. Liar Liar Pants on Fire!

I thought your type didn't believe in bearing false witness? Nice bit of witless propaganda.

Bye, bye!

[Wind Dancer]

41. Geez, don't ya love the user name?

These people are pathetic, honestly.

[life_long_dem]

45. who cares

I'm still voting for KERRY. There is nothing Bush can say or do to make me change my mind.

[Hubert Flottz]

44. Gee, ain't it funny how slime slips away!

I love watching the neoKKKons roast in their own friggin' oil!

[MockSwede]

48. Hope is on the way!

You may be overy optimistic, but KEEP IT UP! It's nice to be that way. Glad your are encouraged with media as the worm turns.

[Catherine Vincent]

51. I don't think so. You saw how the media was whoring

even more for Bush when he lost the debate. I wish that were true but these whores are good at what they do.

[opihimoimoi]

52. It may have been a set up but I saw today Joe ScarBrho kinda back up Kerry

in a discussion with a Pub Lady. I never saw that before.

[Nevernose]

53. I saw the same thing -- it was like Bizarro World

And what the heck's a "mega lolo?"

[opihimoimoi]

54. The Mother of all DUFUSES...mega lolo

[jacksonian]

55. bah, they just do this every now and then

so they can cheerlead for Bush when it counts and defend by saying "but we ran pro-Kerry stuff, too!"

Don't kid yourselves.

[opihimoimoi]

57. I kinda suspect what you say is TRUE