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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:28 AM
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"We only guarded the Oil Ministry"
(Kerry talking about Iraq)

I watched the debates earlier and I'm watching the rerun now.

Discuss.:evilgrin:
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CitySky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:30 AM
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1. nicely done
JK implied, "it sure might APPEAR to some people that we are just after their oil" without coming out and saying it was so. Just the right touch.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:39 AM
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3. I loved it
Oh, God, I was smirking like you wouldn't believe, I was SOOOOOOO gleeful...:bounce::bounce:

I also noticed that bu$h* constantly went over time, while Kerry only went over once or twice during the entire debate. And bu$h* wanted all those rules?:)
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life_long_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:37 AM
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2. let's hope Edwards does as well as Kerry
I dont see how monotone mouth Cheney could possibly win a debate with Edwards.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:40 AM
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4. I am THRILLED that he said that! I have been saying it for a YEAR.
He said they only guarded the Oil Ministry, but not the known Iraqi NUCLEAR SITES.

Google "TUWAITHA"

I am THRILLED that Kerry said this. He is RIGHT ON.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:48 AM
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5. The thought that they didn't guard Tuwaitha truly scares me.
Umm...how many tons of uranium did terra-ists loot?:scared:

They wouldn't even need highly enriched uranium...they need only use a "dirty bomb," and Amerikkka goes straight to hell in a handbasket...:nuke:

And the Oil Ministry was more important? :wtf:

Thanks for the info.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:50 AM
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6. Old threads on this, for more info:
Edited on Fri Oct-01-04 01:02 AM by Stephanie
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=476777

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=63025

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=476777

Excerpt:


http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/6068775.htm
Looting of Iraqi nuclear facility indicts U.S. goals
If we feared the loss of radioactive materials, why not guard them?
TRUDY RUBIN
Knight Ridder Newspapers
Jun. 12, 2003

TUWAITHA, Iraq - On a dusty road, just outside of Baghdad, lies one of the great mysteries of the Iraq war.

<snip>The administration knew full well what was stored at Tuwaitha. So how is it possible that the U.S. military failed to secure the nuclear facility until weeks after the war started? This left looters free to ransack the barrels, dump their contents, and sell them to villagers for storage.

How is it possible that, according to Iraqi nuclear scientists, looters are still stealing radioactive isotopes?

The Tuwaitha story makes a mockery of the administration's vaunted concern with weapons of mass destruction. The U.S. military hastened to secure the Ministry of Oil in Baghdad from looters. But Iraq's main nuclear facility was apparently not important enough to get similar protection.

<snip>And why, in facilities other than Location C, is the looting apparently continuing?

Hisham Abdel Malik, a Iraqi nuclear scientist who lives near Tuwaitha and has been inside the complex, told me that in buildings "where there are radioactive isotopes, there is looting every day." He says the isotopes, which are in bright silver containers, "are sold in the black market or kept in homes." According to IAEA spokeswoman Melissa Fleming, such radioactive sources can kill on contact or pollute whole neighborhoods.

How could an administration that had hyped the danger of Saddam handing off nuclear materials to terrorists let Tuwaitha be looted? Maybe the hype was just hype ... or maybe the Pentagon didn't send enough troops to Iraq to do the job right.

Either answer is damning.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:54 AM
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7. Thanks for the links
I'll look at them in more detail when I'm not drunk on euphoria over Kerry's can of whoop-a$$.:)

However, they both seem to link to the same thread.:shrug:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:56 AM
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8. Different threads but probably duplicate articles
I just looked up some old bookmarks.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:57 AM
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9. I was shocked. that was a classic line, I wish the media would hype it
it was a slap to the face, and red meat for anti-war folks.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 12:58 AM
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10. genius
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 01:12 AM
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11. Shameless kick
:kick:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 07:37 AM
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12. I will kick
:kick: Thanks JK! Awesome!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 07:40 AM
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13. What about The 14 bases?
I heard he mentioned it but I must have missed it? That would be great along with the Oil Ministry line!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 08:55 AM
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14. He did!
He mentioned them! Said Bush won't talk about them.
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