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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:47 AM
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Has electoral-vote.com fallen on their head???
Good god, I hadnt looked at it in awhile..
RED! 336 for *

Kerry 192

What the hell is going on with these polls? There is no way in hell that is true. The twilight zone - Bogus.

They are trying to supress the vote IMO. More dirty tricks.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:49 AM
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1. Yes they are smoking crack with the little turd. That changed 3 times
today.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:50 AM
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2. They take every poll into account
Even the lousy ones
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:52 AM
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3. If *I* submit my "Lex 's United States Bullshit Poll" will they put up
numbers?

Just wondering.

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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:53 AM
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4. They take only the most recent poll into account...
... which sucks as a methodology. If the most recent poll is some 40% Repug Gallup poll, they run with it.

I quit checking that site some time ago.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:54 AM
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5. i don't know why anyone pays attention to that site
it takes only the latest poll from every state, and every poll, even the crappy ones like those online Zogby polls.

so if a poll from a well established and accurate firm shows Kerry up by 7, then some little fly by night organization shows * up by 1 a day later, the state goes to *.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:00 AM
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6. Beware, there is always a freeper or two that take offense
when anybody calls this site the shit that it is.
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Fuzzy LaRue Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:13 AM
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7. I don't think the site in intentionally slanted,
it is just that the methodology behind the numbers is flawed and makes for some wild swings in the totals.
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:22 AM
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8. yes must be..
I havent even seen Faux predict a landslide like that.

It is a stupid poll to put out trash like that.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:04 AM
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15. Before you shoot the messenger...
If you read his commentary, he even admits how the methodology is flawed. He's said a number of times that there's no way a state could go from Kerry +10 to Bush +10 in the matter of one day based on the result of 2 different polls unless something shady is going on with one of them (he says Gallup is still going with the flawed 40% Republican slant).

I don't think there is any solution short of averaging all the state polls together, but even then there's nothing saying a slanted poll still couldn't skew the averages anyway.
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:35 AM
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9. its not biased...
Its just silly... a few days ago it showed kerry up.. as someone else said the methodology is crazy. It treats all polls as equal.

However its making states look to be in play that arent... MD, MN, NM, MS, LA (maybe not...), SC (again.. maybe not...), OR are all either tied, or closer than they really should be...

Is there any site that provides rass or zog polls up to date and quickly?
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 02:49 AM
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10. I see 280-234 which is what it's been all day for me nt
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Fuzzy LaRue Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 02:57 AM
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11. He/She may have looked at the projected final rally. n/t
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Fed Up Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 03:48 AM
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12. another asshole predictor that doesn't predict anything
Total joke. Might as well watch the cartoon network to see who's going to win.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 03:52 AM
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13. Folks...
the problem here is that you were taken in by this site when it had Kerry in the lead. You were c**kteased and now you're feeling the blueballs which ensue. It is a clever RW ploy - tell you what you want to hear and then kick you in the nuts.

Recall that quite a number of people familiar with the site early on said not to take it seriously.
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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 04:14 AM
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14. Gallup showed Bush +13 vs. Gore on Oct 28th 2000

Remember how Gallup rigged the 2000 polls. They showed Bush with a 13 point lead just 5 days before the election. We know how bogus that was. These results are no different. They try to convey the impression that Kerry is really far behind. This discourages Democrats from voting, and encourages undecideds to select the apparent "winner".
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 09:08 AM
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17. I believe that Gallup intentionally skews the polls in *'s favor...
to make it easier for him to steal the election.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:46 AM
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16. 154 EVs are up for grabs
And the polls lean toward bush 4-5%.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 09:14 AM
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18. From the Site
Some bad news for the polling business. Strategic Vision (R) has a new poll in Ohio showing Bush ahead 52% to 43% there. However, there is also a Lake Snell Perry (D) poll showing the race there to be an exact tie, with both candidates at 46%. It is becoming increasingly clear that the pollsters are producing the results that the people paying the bills want to hear. Even pollsters who were once thought to be above suspicion are now suspicious. Gallup, for example, is now normalizing its samples to include 40% Republicans, even though the 2000 exit polls showed the partisan distribution to be 39% Democratic, 35% Republican. There is scant evidence that the underlying partisan distribution has changed much since then.
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